Originally Posted by geekhd
That's odd. I hear all the subtle squirks of fingers on guitar cords or the scratch of nails on a piano key and etc from a cheap DVD player typically seen at Best Buy when I upgraded my speakers and added acoustic treatments in the room.
hence the "intended sounds" reference i mentioned which you chose to ignore. The regular handstroke and finger squirks on a guitar player will always be recorded on a master; of course that's part of the experience. However, what you do not hear with a cheap dvdplayer bought at bestbuy is those subtle movements on the baseline, piano, guitar and the claps of a trompet on a jazz album, because the prominent sounds you hear on a cheap dvdplayer bought at bestbuy is the voice and the bass.
I'm sorry i can't explain it better. And i'm sorry you feel the need to "fight your way" out of every single conversation you enter on this forum. However, i get the distinctive feeling you haven't heard a high quality sound system before. No Marantz, no Sony, no Panasonic, no rotel, no NAD... I'm talking high-end. NAIM, LINN, B&K, SimAudio... those 40,000$ systems. If you go do a sitdown with one of those system, and bring that cheap dvdplayer bought at bestbuy and you can honestly tell me you do not hear a difference... your hearing is impaired.
(disclaimer: the practive or using a very low-end component with high-end component is to take notice of subtle differences, which people don't necesserly notice at first. Try it).
Also, to be clear, room accoustics do not help the sound quality of a CD or Vinyl or MP3, it makes sound travel more easily to your hear and remove unwanted environmental sounds from your experience... it won't make the music sound better, it will help you hear it better. Its of help, but of no consequence to audio quality.
Also, Speakers produce exactly, whithin their limits of course, what is transfered from the CD to the Receiver/Amp/inamp to them. And unfortunately, the weakest link in that chain of systems will dictate the quality of sound produced by the speakers... So speakers come last. not first.
(car analogie for the speakers theory: You get a super nice car, add turbocharge, intercooling, fuel induction, flywheel, race transmission ... make the car a beast!! but put street tires on... what do you think you happen when you go to the track...? It handles like crap and you can't control it... However, keeping those same tires, you downgrade the car's super caracteristics down to a regular street car and the car handles perfectly fine, because its within its limits. -> Tires are Speakers in this analogie... they come last, but are equalie as important... They will only help you if the rest of the car is better. Else, you can put race slicks on a regular street car and of course it will handle better... but it will drag more, turning will be harder, the car will consume more gas and burn out the clutch more easily and finally, will slip a whole lot 'cause the car won't be able to warm up the tires quickly enough). Speakers are Tires... they are important, but they do not come first. They come last.
CD -> cable -> Amp / Receiver /Inamp -> Cable - Speakers.
Not the other way around.