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How good are the newer 1080p projectors for upconversion?

post #1 of 8
1/15/10 at 3:21pm
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Hello all,

I am considering to get a new 1080p projector. How good are they in upconverting when fed with regular DVD (non blue ray) or regular cable TV (not HD) material?

Are they quite good, or should I consider getting a receiver that does 1080p upconversion, so the receiver can upconvert?

Thank you for your advice...
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post #2 of 8
1/16/10 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by Miklos View Post

Hello all,

I am considering to get a new 1080p projector. [B]How good are they in upconverting [/b]when fed with regular DVD (non blue ray) or regular cable TV (not HD) material?

Are they quite good, or should I consider getting a receiver that does 1080p upconversion, so the receiver can upconvert?

Thank you for your advice...

They don't upconvert, your dvd/blueray/receiver/processor does that.
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post #3 of 8
1/16/10 at 12:50pm
Are you saying the 8500UB does not upconvert?
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post #4 of 8
1/16/10 at 1:27pm
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What happens if I feed a 480i signal into a 1080p projector?

Will I see a 1080p picture (with 480i) content (ie. 1080 lines?) or will the project show only 480 lines (thicker ones)?

Most of my sources are not 1080p. What happens if I connect them directly to the projector (i.e. no receiver between source and projector)?

Sorry I am a bit confused. My first projector (Infocus X1 ) did upconvert with its Faroudja chip, and my second (Optoma HD70) I think also did, but the chip in it was not very good.

Can you please tell me more how this works?
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post #5 of 8
1/16/10 at 1:40pm
I would go to projectorcentral dot com and read the article on the 8500UB if it were me.
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post #6 of 8
1/16/10 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by blindbartimaeus View Post

I would go to projectorcentral dot com and read the article on the 8500UB if it were me.

Thank you - that was helpful! So is it fair to say that I should go for a projector with frame interpolation and sharpening and should avoid one that does not do this? One of the companies I am negotiating with (re. new home theatre setup) suggested the JVC DLA-RS10- which does not have frame interpolation. So should I avoid that model, as most of my content is 480i / 480p, with some 720p and very little 1080p?
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post #7 of 8
1/17/10 at 8:09am
From what I have experienced and read, home theater projectors - especially the 1080p models - generally do as good or better job of upconverting and all the other video processing, as most receivers. If you spring for some dedicated video processor, it might be better than what your projector does for itself, but your typical Yamaha, Denon, or Pioneer receiver has nothing on a good projector, upconversion-wise. Think of receivers as the sound processor and as the video switcher.

Frame interpolation is new this past year or so, and is not turned on by some enthusiasts, as they prefer the video without it. It is generally considered to be an improvement for sports, where the action moves rapidly, but I don't see many people calling it essential. More important to most people are contrast, color saturation, resolution, brightness, loudness of the fan, placement flexibility, & ability to project 24p without using 3:2 pulldown.

You can get good info on specific models at the sites cited in this thread, and of course all through this forum.
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post #8 of 8
1/17/10 at 10:21am
I agree somewhat. IF you are using a lot of lower content i.e. < bluray I think the 8500UB is a superior choice to anything out there. I personally am going to go with a 3800 because of the bang for buck and I use mostly DVR'd movies and will be moving to bluray but if you have a lot of lower end content you would like to retain or not repurchase with bluray...the 8500 make a ton of sense.

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Originally Posted by TrickMcKaha View Post

From what I have experienced and read, home theater projectors - especially the 1080p models - generally do as good or better job of upconverting and all the other video processing, as most receivers. If you spring for some dedicated video processor, it might be better than what your projector does for itself, but your typical Yamaha, Denon, or Pioneer receiver has nothing on a good projector, upconversion-wise. Think of receivers as the sound processor and as the video switcher.

Frame interpolation is new this past year or so, and is not turned on by some enthusiasts, as they prefer the video without it. It is generally considered to be an improvement for sports, where the action moves rapidly, but I don't see many people calling it essential. More important to most people are contrast, color saturation, resolution, brightness, loudness of the fan, placement flexibility, & ability to project 24p without using 3:2 pulldown.

You can get good info on specific models at the sites cited in this thread, and of course all through this forum.
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