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Talk me off the ledge

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
OK guys I have a Mits HD1000u and I love it. It is a bit dim but it has 2000 hours on it now and got it back in 2006 before the Bears Superbowl appearance. I got the dreaded colorwheel whine...can't stand it. Time to upgrade!

I have looked and considered the following:Optoma HD66, Vivitek 1080FD, Mits HC3800, Benq W1000, Epson 8100, and 8500UB

I will use this in a psuedo theatre room. I have dark chocolate walls but a white drop ceiling. The ceiling is only 7.5' but I get a decent 110" out of my HD1000 with a slight tilt up and no keystoning. I use my projector for HDTV and upscaled DVD's. I may buy a bluray player but not tops on my list of things I need to do. I especially like watching sports. I have a few floor lamps that put very little if any light on the screen (no ambient). I am using a matt white RGB neutral with a Behr matt poly.

I REALLY want to go with the 3800 BUT there are many times now I wish my projector was brighter. I would probably still go for the 3800 but the sync issues have me nervous.

Logically I could move to the 8100, there are no "deals" on these and they are a good projector with great ability for placement. Haven't heard many overly impressed with them and many wish they went for the 8500.

OK then I look at the HD66 and the 1080FD (I know apples and oranges) but fill the I get a replacement projector which should be brighter/better than what I currently have which I am not completely disappointed in and get in and out for 700-1000 bucks and in a couple of years when LED's are cheap and high output I will have no problems upgrading.

BUT I really want the 8500 since I use a lot of SD or DVD content this will enhance that viewing and by its own rights is a downright awesome projector but I could save the 1200 over the vivitek and buy something downright outstanding in a couple of years.

Would anyone dare to help confuse me more...I certainly hope so!
post #2 of 11
If you have the money, just buy what you really want now. There's always going to be something else to look forward to in a couple of years.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
Wow...with all the opinions on this board, THAT is all I get? It is not really about having enough money to buy what I want it is about smart purchases. I could afford a more expensive one yet but it just isn't a good move for how I use it. For example I have heard no one speak of how much the 120Hz on say the 8500 really helps action shots and sports...could be a deciding factor. This makes me believe it is more marketing hype although I did see a video from P2 showing 60 and 120 side by side and it looked dramatic. Just looking for some good input.
post #4 of 11
If you're expecting someone to come here and say one of these is the clear cut choice over the others yer gonna be waiting a while. It's just not gonna happen without some serious owner bias. About the only thing anyone can say for sure is, a properly prepared room is going to get the very best out of any one of these. Done right, any one will look great.
post #5 of 11
I chose the 8100 due to throw issues and ambient light. The budget wouldn't allow me to get the 8500, most of the others you list wouldn't meet my screen size/throw issue and desire for more lumens. I am very happy with the unit and would recommend it to anyone.

In agreement with the previous poster, we could all post our likes about the unit we own, but those you have listed all have satisfied owners and yes, some who are critical of a unit.

Hope you decide on what works best for your needs.
post #6 of 11
The one question that first comes to mind about your choices is whether the 3800 fits your setup in terms of throw and lens offset. The 3800 is a typical inexpensive fixed offset DLP, and IIRC it has to be mounted above the screen a few inches. From your room description of a low ceiling that might be difficult. You've been using another Mits but I don't know how the HD1000 compares in that respect, they aren't necessarily the same. Just make sure you check that.

A lot of people like the Epson 8500 so you probably can't go wrong with that, and it has great placement flexibility. The only caveat would be the switch from DLP to LCD, might be a little different overall look to get used to.
post #7 of 11
Epson 8100 is a super pj for the money. Gets better with 50+ hrs and very flexible install options. I have white ceilings in my liv rm and it does not distract me a bit...my eyes are glued on pic. The mits 3800 is a nice pj from what I have read but I went lcd due to placement options and the cust servive they are known for. The warranty and lamp life are second to none and the pj looks great. The BB sale prior to black Fri was a determining factor as well. Even at the current list...it's worth it. I don't suggest spending more when in the near future or by the time you decide to upgrade, me too, the pj's will be better and at same price or less. I think it is futile to invest more than 1500 at present time and what you get for your money is very well spent. I watched Seal Soudstage bluray and was blown away as well as many other movies/concerts. Bluray is stupid good looking and sd dvd upconverted are very nice...don't ask me about tv...don't have it connected...no interest to do so but I have read it is super as the eps 8100 is a light cannon and does extremely well for hd sports and etc.
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
The DLP's will work in my current config almost a direct swap...as if anything is a direct swap. I think I am getting close to the W1000 due to price/brightness/contrast for my uses. I agree spending a lot now seems foolish (TO ME) when perhaps in a year we can have pictures that look akin to the LED TV's only at 110" or more and are capable of 3D.

That is just my thinking and if I did splurge for the 8500 I am sure I would enjoy it as well.

Keep the input coming though!
post #9 of 11
I had an Epson 8100 for a couple of weeks before returning it. I had been using an Optoma HD80 (DLP) which broke, so I had to quickly look at options. I ended up having trouble getting the 8100 to look really good - it was either somewhat dim/dingy looking, or bright but poor black level and color. It was pretty slick to use and setup - the menu interface is very nicely done - it just didn't give me the PQ I hoped to see. I have a 100" Firehawk screen, a little smaller than yours but different "look" than your matte white.

BTW, with some BD players going for $100 or just over, I'd recommend raising that on the priority list.
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by pheroy View Post

BTW, with some BD players going for $100 or just over, I'd recommend raising that on the priority list.

You are probably correct. ;>)
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
I believe I am settling in the Benq W1000 camp. Stix2 on their thread is probably the main reason since there is very little reviewed about it.

I really want to have the Mits but what I have seen with the Mits HD1000 is that it was plenty bright new but in a year I am wanting more since the bulb is losing life. The Mits doesn't have the ability to really pump up the lumens for sports or higher ambient light a year from now...IMO. Other than that I would make shorter cable runs and make the mits work because I think the projector probably looks much better than anything in its immediate price range ~1250.

From what I can gather the W1000 has more options to adjust controls than the others in its price range. So given the flexibility of the Benq (although I have had a bad experience with Benq) and the lower price so 2 years I can get a really nice projector it seems like the one for me.

Does anyone see anything messed up with that line of thinking?
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