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post #31 of 56
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Originally Posted by Pepster returns View Post

Not according to WD.

Specs: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=735
"- H.264 MP@L4.1 and HP@4.1 up to 1920x1080p24, 1920x1080i30, or 1280x720p60 resolution. "

It also says it cant do 5.1 profile. And it does. Not everything on paper is correct.
post #32 of 56
dion, wd does NOT do 1080p @ 60fps, it converts all 60fps to 30fps, this is a fact, I can 1000% tell the difference between silky smooth 60fps and jittery 30fps

Pepster, I could not get you a 1080p60fps file under 5megs, hopefully tomorrow or the next day I will have a really obvious 60fps smooth pan shot that I can share to see if any ones media player can play it at 60fps.
post #33 of 56
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Originally Posted by riz View Post

dion, wd does NOT do 1080p @ 60fps, it converts all 60fps to 30fps, this is a fact, I can 1000% tell the difference between silky smooth 60fps and jittery 30fps

Pepster, I could not get you a 1080p60fps file under 5megs, hopefully tomorrow or the next day I will have a really obvious 60fps smooth pan shot that I can share to see if any ones media player can play it at 60fps.

Where did I claim it could do it? Making stuff up are we?
post #34 of 56
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Originally Posted by Dion250 View Post

Where did I claim it could do it? Making stuff up are we?

u said specs were not always correct implying maybe it did do 60fps @ 1080p (or at least that is what i thought), I was simply clarifying it does not do 60fps, nothing more...
post #35 of 56
I bought the xtreamer believing RealTek could handle 1080p60 L4.2 files, since they do not stutter and audio stays in sync. However these files definitely judder - so I don't think they really work with RealTek devices!
post #36 of 56
...perhaps with the new Panasonic camcorders coming out this month that do the same 1080p60 H264 L4.2 format (@28mbps), maybe some chip makes will start to show some interest...until then it seems only good HTPC might be able to play these files - though even my AthlonX2 and hardware GPU acceleration fails miserably.
post #37 of 56
Just tried splash lite on my AthlonX2 with Nvidia 9600GT card (using GPU acceleration in Vista) and these 1080p60 files seem to play properly. Strange since xmbc live distro can't play them using GPU acceleration.

Maybe the ION 2 due out soon might work with xbmc live? Even then I guess no HD audio just like with Realtek. All very incredible that a cheap camcorder yet very very little seems to be powerful enough to decode it.
post #38 of 56
Thread Starter 
Well..it's been well over a month since the last post here so I have to ask..has anything changed? Is there anew player out there that can handle 1080/60fps?
I am itching to grab a media player that can do this correctly.

Dave
post #39 of 56
post #40 of 56
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Originally Posted by sportster64 View Post

try this:
http://sanyovideocam.blogspot.com/

Media Player for 60p Videos
Eureka! At last I have found a media player (in fact many media players) that can play the Full HR video of the HD2000 at 1920x1080, 60p resolution. I was at my favourite IT mall the other day and I tested my 60p videos at the Asus O!Play HDP-R1 media player that was on demo. It played the clip without any problem. Then I went to another shop and tested the video on a Hornettek Phantom media player. Again, the clip played fine. Thus my search is finally over.

Upon further reading, I found that both these media players are using the Realtek 1073DD chip and so we now have so many media players to choose from if we want to play the Full HR videos; as long as the media player is using the same chip, the Realtek 1073DD, it should be able to play the videos. The only major difference will be the physical built of the player including the casing and the output/input connection options. Many of the GUI used are very similar if not exactly the same, especially those from China. Below are some of the more popular brands of media player that are using the Realtek 1073DD chip, in alphabetical order. This excludes those media players that use the other major chip, the Sigma 86XX like the WDTV. If user of these players (using the Sigma 86XX chip) can confirm that they too can play the Full HR videos, then we Sanyo camcorder owners will even have more choices. The earlier WDTV cannot, as noted in my earlier post.

Anyway, here's the list of some of those that can play the Full HR video.

1. AC Ryan PlayOn
2. Apacer AL460
3. Asus O!Play
4. DViCO Tvix N1
5. Hornettek Phantom
6. MSI Movie Station
7. Patriot Box Office

As media players are getting more popular by the day, there are new models coming out by the day as well. So apart from the physical look of the unit, you may decide based on the price and the bells and whistles that come with it. So how do you choose one that is right for you? Well, I think that will be a good topic for my next new Blog!

BTW, I'll be getting one of these Realtek 1073DD media player myself to play my HD2000 videos. Which model will it be? Well, watch for my review soon once it arrives.
post #41 of 56
^^^ problem is, i have tried th e asus o!play and it didn't play 60fps smoothly as far as could tell. It was months ago when I tried it but I returned iot for a reason, that reason is, I couldn't get 60fps out of it.

If someone wants to revisit this,and prove me wrong, cool. I still need a player that does 60fps media files
post #42 of 56
Apparently the BriteView Cinematube does according to their FAQ at their forum:
Q: What HDTV resolutions are supported?
A: The CinemaTube supports the following resolutions:

480i = 704px X 480px (60 Interlaced frames per second / 30 complete frames per second)
480p = 704px X 480px (60 complete frames per second)
576i = 720px = 576px (60 Interlaced frames per second / 30 complete frames per second)
576p = 720px = 576px (60 complete frames per second)
720p @ 50/60Hz = 1280px X 720px (60 complete frames per second) ~ 1 mega pixel camera resolution
1080i @ 50/60Hz = 1920px X 1080px (60 Interlaced frames per second / 30 complete frames per second) ~ 2 mega pixel camera resolution
1080p @ 50/60Hz = 1920px X 1080px (60 complete frames per second) ~ 2 mega pixel camera resolution

http://www.brite-viewforum.com/viewt...f5433f753f1adb

And also this confirmation from the Panasonic HDC-HS700 & HDC-TM700 forum by user purcellt about half way down the page on this link:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...225613&page=89

"First - for those looking to play 1080P60 video content from the Panasonic TM-700, my advice (if you have a network at home) is to spend $87 for the Briteview CinemaTube network media player - plays the 1080P60FPS video just perfectly - right out of the box!"
post #43 of 56
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zaharia View Post

Apparently the BriteView Cinematube does according to their FAQ at their forum:
Q: What HDTV resolutions are supported?
A: The CinemaTube supports the following resolutions:

480i = 704px X 480px (60 Interlaced frames per second / 30 complete frames per second)
480p = 704px X 480px (60 complete frames per second)
576i = 720px = 576px (60 Interlaced frames per second / 30 complete frames per second)
576p = 720px = 576px (60 complete frames per second)
720p @ 50/60Hz = 1280px X 720px (60 complete frames per second) ~ 1 mega pixel camera resolution
1080i @ 50/60Hz = 1920px X 1080px (60 Interlaced frames per second / 30 complete frames per second) ~ 2 mega pixel camera resolution
1080p @ 50/60Hz = 1920px X 1080px (60 complete frames per second) ~ 2 mega pixel camera resolution

http://www.brite-viewforum.com/viewt...f5433f753f1adb

And also this confirmation from the Panasonic HDC-HS700 & HDC-TM700 forum by user purcellt about half way down the page on this link:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...225613&page=89

"First - for those looking to play 1080P60 video content from the Panasonic TM-700, my advice (if you have a network at home) is to spend $87 for the Briteview CinemaTube network media player - plays the 1080P60FPS video just perfectly - right out of the box!"

Well this looks promising....and for $87 too. Hmmmmmm.
post #44 of 56
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Originally Posted by zaharia View Post

Apparently the BriteView Cinematube does according to their FAQ at their forum:

You seem surprized. The cinematube has the same Realtek 1073DD chipset as the above players listed by riz so it's bound to do 1080p60.

What's surprizing is the puny performance of the sigma chips. I thought these offered decent performance. Then again I have an htpc which could easily play 4K at any refresh rate with the right graphics card so I've never really looked into performance tests of media players.

I have a suspicion that the 1073DD can't bitstream lossless codecs so were never considered as alternatives to the sigma chips which do not have this limitation.
post #45 of 56
I'll take 1080P30 with lossless codecs over 1080P60 without lossless audio a ny day.
post #46 of 56
So pretty much buy a cheap player and wait for something with newer chips to come out.

I didn't see dune or pch on the llist, I'm guessing they can't do the 1080p/60fps?
post #47 of 56
Tested these clips, http://www.lirodesigns.com/sanyo/, on the Popcorn Hour C-200,
seems to playback fine.
post #48 of 56
Thread Starter 
Any new CinemaTube users out there that can comment more on this player specifically with 1080p/60 files?
post #49 of 56
I purchased the 5005 from Amazon, almost perfect, but one annoying thing that made me have to return it, caused my speakers to make a whistling noise. I have an older HDTV (only DVI and component output), a bose speaker system and older Sony receiver, audio is outputed using the red/white audio cables. At first thought something was wrong with my speakers, but this problem does not occur with my other devices including WD player. I also have a Sanyo VPC-FH1. The brite-view will play Sanyo 1080P 60FPS files, but not at 60FPS. When I'm talking about being able to play the files, I mean playing it as if you connected the camcorder directly to the TV which is super smooth playback which the brite-view does not. It plays 1920 x 1080 (60fields/sec 16Mbps) files just fine, very smooth playback. Maybe if you have a newer setup, using HDMI as your audio out, you won't experience the whistling noise, or maybe it just doesn't like my set up. No funds to upgrade and I'm happy with my old equipment, still sounds great. So when people say certain players can play 1080P 60 FPS files, I'm not sure it's totally accurate. Yes it can play them but can it play the way it's supposed to play. Only owners of a camcorder that records 1080p 60 FPS can judge cuz you'll know what it's supposed to look like.
post #50 of 56
I think the WDTV Live and WDTV Live Plus does up to 1080p24 as listed on their specs sheets. (I'm not sure)

I have the Nixeus Fusion HD and in the video output settings I have it set for 1080p60 for my 52inch Phillips HDTV 120Hz
post #51 of 56
Anyone tried Emtec Movie Cube N150h?
It has a Realtek chip (I don't know which).

I've tried with clips of may Sanyo FH1 but only with a pen drive and the playback wasn't smooth.

Best regards,
Jok
post #52 of 56
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hdfan23 View Post

I purchased the 5005 from Amazon, almost perfect, but one annoying thing that made me have to return it, caused my speakers to make a whistling noise. I have an older HDTV (only DVI and component output), a bose speaker system and older Sony receiver, audio is outputed using the red/white audio cables. At first thought something was wrong with my speakers, but this problem does not occur with my other devices including WD player. I also have a Sanyo VPC-FH1. The brite-view will play Sanyo 1080P 60FPS files, but not at 60FPS. When I'm talking about being able to play the files, I mean playing it as if you connected the camcorder directly to the TV which is super smooth playback which the brite-view does not. It plays 1920 x 1080 (60fields/sec 16Mbps) files just fine, very smooth playback. Maybe if you have a newer setup, using HDMI as your audio out, you won't experience the whistling noise, or maybe it just doesn't like my set up. No funds to upgrade and I'm happy with my old equipment, still sounds great. So when people say certain players can play 1080P 60 FPS files, I'm not sure it's totally accurate. Yes it can play them but can it play the way it's supposed to play. Only owners of a camcorder that records 1080p 60 FPS can judge cuz you'll know what it's supposed to look like.

How do the 1080p/60P files from your FH1 look? Does it play them back as 60i? Doesn't the TV you are using play a role in this too? The TV must be able to display what it's being fed no?

Dave
post #53 of 56
Thread Starter 
Any new players that can do 1080p/60fps playback well?
post #54 of 56
Just got a Panasonic HDC TM900 video camera that records video at 1080p/60fps. After realizing my Popcorn A-110 won't play these files I'm in need of some media streamer that will play them from a NAS.

Any new updates?
post #55 of 56
Thread Starter 
Mede8er MED500X High Definition Multimedia Player ????? Can anyone confirm 1080p 60fps with this player?
post #56 of 56
I thing if you guys who want to know if something plays your 60p, you need to provide link with RAW sample also, at least 10-20s. Then there is always someone who will test this and respond.
60p could be wrapped up inside mp4, AVCHD ,differend bit rates.....
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