Im a big Bob Ross fan. Nothing wrong with some paint splattered on onself. It lets you know you are having fun.
. That said, I do find this thread very interesting and a large clash between two opposing viewpoints. I think that both the chartists and the experience, real world listening guys both make some very good points and that the best way to assess a speaker is probably some middleground between the two. Science definitely needs numbers and charts for advancement and new development of products, but the numbers themselves are not the end all to the final product. If they were, you wuold not have a high end speaker or sub maker in the world actually bother to listen tontheir products as they develop them, but Im pretty sure they all do.
My own opinion, I love the B&w805Ds, a super sounding speaker IMO. And my own subjective take on high end audio - I think the so called warm sound luvas are full of it. Its nothing but a neutered mid and or upper range done by certain manufacturers to placate mostly older high end audio purchasers because thats what their old ears want. And afterall, if you are going to build a $20k speaker, etc, you better make it sound like what the older AV yuppie wants with the loads of disposeable income, because in general it is that older guy who will have the cashola to buy your $20k product. Not the snot nosed 21 yr old just out of school, looking for real job numer one, IMO.
Maybe I just splattered some paint on myself. Bob Ross, you the man!