Originally Posted by fafner
They are from the Oppo 83 FAQ page referenced above for the Oppo. Winston32 has done a great job of evaluating start up times in the JVC BP-1 thread...and perhaps elsewhere in the Fourm. The JVC starts playing content before I get back to my chair after putting a disc in the tray.
I have no actual experience with any Oppo player and if I misrepresented what the 83 can do it was not intentional.
Part of my underlying point, is just exactly HOW are these tests being performed.
IMO, the ENTIRE setup of starting a movie is to be considered.
For example, starting the player from standby would be the entire startup time.
With the BDP-83, press the eject button from a standby state and the tray opens quickly, stick the disc in and close, then auto play takes over.
If the "testing" being done is only considering load times from a point when the tray is already open, then it is flawed.
To help prove my point, if I power on my Toshiba HD-XA2 with the eject button, it takes like 1.2 billion years before the tray opens.
This certainly contributes to how long it takes to get a movie started, so the same criteria is to be considered with BD players as well.
With all that said, I'm not saying that other players may not be slightly faster than the OPPOs on occasion, but I highly doubt there are any that will beat an OPPO hands down on a consistent basis.
It seems that at this point in the game, most mid-level and up BD players are all somewhat similar in load times... give or take a few seconds here and there... IMHO... FWIW... don't eat no yellow snow.