Official OPPO BDP-80 Owner's Thread - Page 7

Probably better future tech support and FW updates.

Strangely enough, it is harder to get a good image out of DVD than BR. DVD video must be deinterlaced and scaled, where BR is already progressive and pretty much ready to display.

For much more background and DVD examples, see the Home Theater shootout articles as linked in the BDP-83 FAQ: Is the DVD picture quality of this player amazingly better than any other player?

-Bill

I was going to say, yes the later Oppo BDP-83 drives were even faster, as you documented.

Dave,
Do you have an upgraded HD-XA2? I only ask because mine takes 2 billion years to boot...
Man, it is painful though, isn't it?

Well I'm unsure if he purchased it himself but if he did and this was a concern, why buy it in the first place??

I know why I've stayed clear of some manufacturers despite how good the playback quality may be.

What EXACTLY are you trying to accomplish?
What is the exact setup for both rooms?
There are so many variables, it's hard to help.
I know about the variables, as I have the same type of setup.

Blu-ray is already HD. The source material is generally at either 1080p (most common) or 1080i (less common). Thus if a player doesn't do anything "stupid" to mess things up, you have a great HD image available to deliver to your display.

DVD is not HD, but we are showing it on HDTV's that need to have the signal converted to their native HD resolution. This means we will have to deinterlace the 480i signal to 480p and then scale it to a higher resolution. These are not trivial conversions. They are complex. Better software and hardware yields a better picture. Just because a player isn't messing up a Blu-ray's HD signal doesn't mean it is going to do a good job of scaling and deinterlacing a DVD's SD signal.

You all say that it might appeal to sacd users, but it turns DSD to PCM at the analog outputs. So its not that appealing. John M.

SACD users who want a player with DSD-compatible DAC's would need to move up to the BDP-83. Those DAC's are one reason that the BDP-83 costs $210 more than the BDP-80. Of course, there have been a whole lot of SACD players over the years that required converting DSD to PCM before converting to analog. Most of those didn't even have the option to output DSD over HDMI, which the BDP-80 can do.

There are many players and processors that convert DSD to PCM and don't bother to tell you about it.

fafner,

I don't know where you read "the JVC VX BP-1 has set the standard for starting time, and the figures for the Oppo 83 are signifcantly slower than the JVC." I own both players and this is from my post #250, dated 06/06/09 in the JVC-XBBP1 Owners Thread:

The Oppo speed tests versus the JVC using the Dark Knight blu-ray. The JVC times are in blue and the Oppo times in black. Also, times are in seconds unless otherwise noted:

ALL ARE FROM A TRAY OPEN POSITION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TEST 4
to Piracy Screen - 20, 16

1. to Warner Brother logo - 32, 28
2. to beginning of movie - 1:13, 1:07
3. Power on disc in tray to start of movie - 1:26, 1:18

All times were consistent and repeatable. However, different media may yield different results. That said; it's the closet I've experienced with times comparable to my Oppo as far as speed depending on the media.


Respectfully,
Willie

+1

I think many people disregard or fail to realize this is a strong
point of OPPO.

The LG 390 is faster.

CD

What about a panasonic bd-30 (will the 80 be better for blu ray playback)?

It's Sunday evening at we're already at almost 200 posts. I'm sure by the end of Monday we'll be spinning so fast with posts our heads will explode, and we'll likely blow past 500 at about 8pm (EST).

I quite like my BDP-83, and would probably still pony up the extra dough if I needed to replace it, but the BDP-80 makes for a very tempting device for another room. Hmm, I could use a BD/DVD/SACD/DVD-A player at work, right...?

This player pretty well meets my expectations. And I will recommend it to anyone who doesn't need the most basic of BD requirements (pending reviews, naturally).

shinksma

The general forum consensus is that all BR players are very similar in Blu-ray picture quality, especially when producing 1080p from 1080p24 native sources, the most common case. This will also be true of the BDP-80.

-Bill

This is one reason, among others, that I'm considering replacing my Pio with an Oppo.

Wow! The way people pick apart electronics is laughable. Buy the equipment within your budget that best satisfies most of your needs and enjoy, but I guess that would be too easy.


Respectfully,
Willie

We'll have to wait until tomorrow before anyone can speak specifically about the BDP-80's performance for the reasons discussed previously. For some aspects of Blu-ray support, my BDP-83 review touches on how the BD30 compares to the BDP-80's big brother. I owned a BD30 prior to the BDP-83.

Since the BDP-80 has not been released, you can't make a statement like that, you don't know.

This is probably true.


Cattledog,

I didn't know that you had a Oppo BDP-80 already. How does dvd playback compare to the LG? Last, how much faster is the LG 390 than the BDP-80?

All kidding aside. How about we wait until the player is released to judge its speed against other players.


Respectfully,
Willie

Why did Oppo decide to leave out the 24p conversion? Many people still have a large SD library and there are lower priced players on the market with this capability.

I am wondering..if the new Oppo will get around the Macro-blocking like the 970/980 does? Just how much SD improvement will one see over the 980 and if there will still be the 1 second skip on the cd audio?

Mac

Macro-blocking issues involved the older Faroudja video processing which is no longer used by any Oppo players.

Thanks for all the input. My main reason for returning Pioneer 23FD & getting Oppo is mainly faster load times & firmware support. With Pioneer not showing any BD players at CES & with Bestbuy showing signs of trying to clear out Pioneer Elite I just don't want to be stuck with a player with little to no support.

It's been my experience that forced 24fps conversion invites as many issues as quality it creates.

Does the media tech chipset keep this from happening on all displays?

Mac