Official OPPO BDP-80 Owner's Thread - Page 103

Originally Posted by rdclark

It's hard to say how much of an improvement you might hear, if any. Those high-bitrate lossy tracks sound a lot better than standard DVDs. And while you'd be getting lossless audio from the Oppo, you'd be giving up whatever digital processing your Denon is contributing to the sound of your system, and trading it for the rather rudimentary versions of bass management and speeaker timing offered by the Oppo.

On my system, for example, it's important that I be able to set a different crossover frequency for the center channel than for the mains and surrounds, and yet a different one for the rear surrounds. The Oppo only offers one freq for all speakers. Also on my system I have Audyssey room correction, which contributes signivicantly, but would be bypassed using analog inputs.

There are other factors to consider, such as whether you might hear a difference between the DACs in each device, and how revealing your speakers are of very subtle characteristics in the sound.

Personally, I'd save my money towards an AVR upgrade if I already had a BD player. Modern AVRs with HDMI and room correction really can make a bigger difference than the subtle one between lossless/analog and high-bitrate lossy in many situations.

Originally Posted by mpyw

Anyone having problem playing "Fame (1980)" (Region A, US Version) bluray on the BDP-80?

My disc were stuck in there just after the Warner logo...the BD-J won't even load and the time shown were 0:00:00 and just stuck there, have to power off and on to get the BD out.

I've tried 3 times and all same result.

So I just put the BD in my Dune BD Prime 1.0 and it played and go through the BD-J without any problem (that's where I knew it had a BD-J loading logo with a spinning disc)

Originally Posted by mpyw

My BD-Live is always OFF and I did not connect the player to the network.
Same as my Dune BD Prime, the BD-Live is always set to OFF but it play the BD with no problem

Originally Posted by newsnerd

How is the OPPO BDP-80 with DVD upconversion compared to the PS3?

I'd just like a no thrills, basic Blu-ray player that plays Blu-rays and DVD's as good as possible, within the $300 price range. Does the BDP-80 fit that?

Originally Posted by newsnerd

I just looked at Winston's rankings for the OPPO BDP-80, and it seems he rated the BDP-80 a "9" for DVD, and the BDP-83, a "10" for DVD.

I'd think a "9" for DVD should be fine for me. I don't need (or expect) to have my DVD's look like Blu-rays, but I wanted my DVD's to at least look as good as they would on a regular DVD player hooked up to a CRT.

So in the $250-300 price range, the OPPO BDP-80 is most likely better with DVD upconversion than anything else I could buy, such as from Best Buy, etc?

Thank you!

Originally Posted by rdgrimes

Nevertheless you still need to clear persistent storage.

Originally Posted by audiodane

This seems to come up fairly frequently.. so I have two questions:

1. What benefit does persistent storage provide?
2. If the benefit is small compared to the benefit of clearing it, would it make sense to request that Oppo create a new menu option called "clear persistent storage on shut-down?"

don't want to submit a request if it makes no sense, but this would seem to make sense...

..dane

Originally Posted by rdgrimes

The relative "benefit" is an open question. It's part of the BD specs so it's here to stay. Clearing persistent storage will likely remain a user-intervention-only option due to the fact that many people use it for saving downloaded BD-Live content.

Storage is used by many JAVA-based discs, independently of BD-Live functions. If it gets corrupted it must be cleared before the disc that used it can be played again. Most problems are due to sloppy programming but should clear as soon as storage is cleared. The better suggestion would be to "ask" disc authoring people to program their discs so the storage is cleared when the disc is stopped. Good luck with that.

Originally Posted by audiodane

This seems to come up fairly frequently.. so I have two questions:

1. What benefit does persistent storage provide?
2. If the benefit is small compared to the benefit of clearing it, would it make sense to request that Oppo create a new menu option called "clear persistent storage on shut-down?"

don't want to submit a request if it makes no sense, but this would seem to make sense...

..dane

Originally Posted by newsnerd

How is the OPPO BDP-80 with DVD upconversion compared to the PS3?

I need a Blu-ray player with really good DVD upconversion, but my budget is around $250-300.

I will only be using it for Blu-ray and DVD's, so I didn't really need any other features, such as internet, audio features, CD's, etc.

I'd just like a no thrills, basic Blu-ray player that plays Blu-rays and DVD's as good as possible, within the $300 price range. Does the BDP-80 fit that?

Originally Posted by rdclark

I replied to your question in the "Help Me Choose" thread, where you (tsk, tsk) double-posted it.

Originally Posted by expresso712

let me ask you - when you watch blu rays with DTS MA or TRUE HD - at night with low volume - letting your 7002 do the decoding -

do you hear the center dialogue clear ? i find it hard to make out what they are saying - sometimes they whisper and cant make it out at all -

do you notice that at all ? i am going to see if i let the bd 80 decode and send it to my AVR so i can use the EQ settings - that helps - but having the AVR decode - cant use the EQ -

if you get a chance next time - post back if you are ok and hear clear or have the same issue

thanks

Originally Posted by HDntheCity

1st I apologize for taking so long to respond-been a busy few days with my house(yeah we upgrade OTHER things too!)

in my experience I have no issues with the center ch at low volumes-to me it seems more often that a soft dialogue track is perhaps the fault of the audio mix(my housemate often complains of this on regular TV).

now I have a small room & only sit about 8 ft. or less from the screen(and center ch.).
I have DRC set to OFF on the Oppo(I disable most digital audio & video settings like that).
also-did you set up your 7002 using Audyssey? I tried it-when I checked the settings they were all over the place(the spkr distances were WAAAAAY off, for example) so I just set it up manually with Avia & an SPL meter. yes I know Audyessy has worked for others & they're very pleased with it-just didn't work for me.

to sum up-most nights if I watch a movie with the 7002 vol. at around -35dB to -40dB that's fine-don't disturb anyone else in the house & I hear the dialogue fine. again note I sit pretty close.

BTW on the issue of DVD scaling the 80 is VERY good-at least on my 56" screen. watching anime(NINJA NONSENSE to be specific) it's very clean with Oppo set at 1080p if you don't mind the pillarboxing. as previously posted GENTLEMAN JIM(early '40's Errol Flynn vehicle) also looks quite nice.

think tonight I'll have a look at my concert video of Johnny Clegg & Savuka & see how it looks. most of the footage is over 20yrs old-interesting to see how it holds up.

Originally Posted by wmcclain

If there were an automatic clear setting I would use it. One issue is automatic resume points for DVD and BR discs, but that is actually in a separate bit of memory and could be cleared or retained apart from the main storage.

I do something similar on my computer. Temporary files all go an a ram disk in memory that vanishes at shutdown time. The Firefox browser will delete security-related info when it quits, although I don't use that feature.

Go ahead and write it up for OPPO.

Originally Posted by audiodane

Done.. Good idea about a ram disk.. How do you know how much space you need on your ram disk?

cheers,
..dane

Originally Posted by wmcclain

Bit off topic.

(Linux makes one automatically. It's about 1.1GB on my system).

-Bill

Originally Posted by rdclark

newsnerd, I feel confident saying that on a 46" LCD the difference in upscaling between the BDP-80 and the BDP-83 will be negligible, if it's even detectable at all.

Originally Posted by rdgrimes

There are detectable differences in de-interlacing, but over-all the picture quality will be excellent with either. For mostly movies it's very sensible to go with the -80.

Originally Posted by newsnerd

Thank you very much for the responses.

So on a 46" Sony 1080p LCD, the OPPO BDP-80 should give really good DVD upconversion, and maybe even on par with the PS3 in upconversion?

Originally Posted by HDntheCity

one more vote for the Oppo 80's DVD scaling prowess!

as I stated earlier I did check the PQ on my Johnny Clegg concert DVD. the main program was recorded in Paris in 1990(rescanned from SECAM?).

it looks VERY good @1080p scaling-definitely better than my old Denon 1920(tho to be fair that's a 1080i player). I don't think you can expect much more from 20 yr old video.

the DVD also has music videos from Clegg's days fronting JULUKA(with Sipho Mchunu) and the scaling is a bit TOO accurate-in that it's obvious these circa '80-'82 videos are unrestored & showing it. not the fault of the Oppo-it can't work magic.

also watched about 1/3 of ATRAGON & again it looks as good as an early '60's Toho Studios effort can be expected to. clean, sharp, plenty of detail(especially the miniatures FX work).

really I think Oppo's disclaimer should be worded more like "UNLESS you have a VERY large display..." where "large" means at least a 73" Mitsu DLP & going up from there. with anything smaller I'd say 99.99999% would be happy to delighted with the Oppo 80.

BTW expresso you said your new 80 was to arrive today. if so let's hear how you like it.