Official OPPO BDP-80 Owner's Thread - Page 122

It also says:

Note: This version was previously released as a public beta test version on April 12, 2011. It has been qualified and promoted to an official release version. If you have installed the public beta version during the week of April 12, there is no need to reinstall the firmware.

As noted above, the 0402 Public Beta firmware has today been released as "official" firmware for the BDP-80!

Network update is available, or you can download and install via the USB or disc methods. Info and instructions here:

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-b...0-Support.aspx

If you've previously installed the 0402 Public Beta, there's nothing you need to do now. There are no differences between that Public Beta and this "official" release.

Gentlemen, start your downloads!
--Bob

The latest firmware cleared up this problem for me. I had sent in Taiyo Yuden LTH discs I burned/recorded for them to test a few months back and didn't receive a response afterwards, but it's nice to see they apparently made good use of them.

I see this update fixed the size problem with "Patton". Strange. I never had problems with "Patton" on the 80, just my 83, which I assumed was because of the different decoder chips.

I was prompted to upgrade the firmware by Internet yesterday. After restarting it I threw at it a couple of mkv movies via USB drive. One had previously refused to play on the Oppo - still no joy. I tried another mkv, not previously attempted. Horrible video artifacts. So I'm less than impressed. I rerouted the USB source direct to my Samsung TV, both files played flawlessly, so there's not much wrong with these movies. MKV has been around for some time now, Oppo seems really behind the 8-ball on this.

Thanks Bob, I was wondering about any differences between the beta and the "official" release. Per your tip sheet, did the install last night and it only took about 20 mins or so....when the install ended though, the player did not eject the disk but simply turned off. I checked my previous settings (which had not been changed by the install) and the player did state 0402 as the latest firmware installed. Played a br disk and all is well...

Good deal!!

Happy there is a new update. Will upload it to my Dad's player next time I see him. Thanks for the info guys.

Are there any advantages or disadvantages between selecting "Bitstream" or "LPCM" output on this player? My receiver can decode all of the high-res formats but I understand that if the Oppo is set to bitstream, HDCD decoded discs aren't passed through. I had it set to bitstream before, but now I've switched it to LPCM.

The differences will be at the AVR end. AVRs tend to handle the 2 inputs differently in terms of levels and available processing. No real difference in AQ.

Thanks! I'll try it out for awhile and see what I think.

I own the oppo 93 and I bitstream. it sounds wonderful.

Jacob

Please excuse my dumbness but what is MKV? Thanks for ALL the help on this great forum

Phil

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska

-Bill

jweedon: I would not be so fast to blame the Oppo for the MKV's not playing. I stream these things like crazy, and I think I might have had one or two not work out of hundreds. This Oppo does an amazing job for something that is not even officially supported.

What I have found is that the transport(MKV) is usually not the problem, but the actual encode is. Right now, almost all media playback devices are very touchy with encodes. If the slightest setting is off, it seems to be no joy.

I am working towards digitizing my entire blu ray collection so that it can be played anywhere in the house, by anyone who wants to watch something. I can safely say, 99% of my stuff works.

It sounds like your issue is truly a bad encode. Yes, other media devices may play it, but, that doesn't mean there is not a problem. Some devices are just better at dealing with it.

I have no problem streaming even the biggest of blu ray rips. Some of my rips are 30-40 Mbps with the HD audio on top. If you made the rip, double check the settings. If it is something you downloaded well, good luck. P2P stuff is hit and miss to begin with.

I don't recall but is there a reason the Oppo doesn't like stuff converted in Handbrake 0.9.5 but is ok with 0.9.4 stuff? I have a 3 minute test file that will lock up the oppo either stream/usb if done in 0.9.5 but it is OK in 0.9.4.

So is there a workaround using 0.9.5 or no?

Don't use VFR with 0.9.5
--Bob

So what setting would one change? I always just left it at defaults on High Profile.

OK so here is some info on the test file-

0.9.5
Format : Matroska
File size : 85.4 MiB
Duration : 6mn 23s
Overall bit rate : 1 869 Kbps
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.5
Writing library : libmkv 0.6.4.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 6mn 23s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 368 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Original display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 112

0.9.4
Format : Matroska
File size : 87.6 MiB
Duration : 6mn 23s
Overall bit rate : 1 917 Kbps
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.4

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 6mn 23s
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 368 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Writing library : x264 core 79

This issue was fixed in the latest BDP-93 firmware, I do not know if the latest BDP-80 firmware has the same fix.

To avoid it, in Handbrake 0.9.5 use the explicit frame rate settings in the video tab. Either 23.976 or 29.97 depending on the source. DVD would be 29.97. Do not use the "same as source" or "peak framerate" selections.

^ What RDGRIMES said.

If you have not done so already, you should update to the new, 0402, firmware for the BDP-80 as the fix for this MAY have been back-ported from the BDP-93 to the BDP-80. I don't know whether or not that is true.
--Bob

I did do that and still had the same issue.

I expected that. The BDP-80 uses a different decoder ship so the fix isn't easily portable to it.

Handbrake 0.9.4 makes variable frame rate video with the wrong flag, so the player sees it as constant frame rate and plays it fine. Handbrake 0.9.5 now sets the correct flag so the decoder sees the VFR and barfs. Apparently there was some minute change in the H.264 specs somewhere along the way and the decoder chip makers didn't notice. Anyhow, if there's no other reason for you to stay with 0.9.5, I'd suggest just using 0.9.4 and stay with the "same as source" setting, because I think it gives better results (at least for DVD video). Handbrake is futzing with the frame rates on any other setting besides "same as source" and I see some dropped frames in DVD video.

Oppo is aware of these issues with H.264 and has worked with MTK to get the code fixed in the new players, so if you bug them about it maybe they can get MTK to fix it for the older players too. But I have a feeling that MTK has less interest in fixing code on old chips. There are a number of other players and decoder chips that have the same issue.

Will this model allow me to to stretch or zoom 2.35 bluray pictures to fill my 16:9 screen and significantly cut down or eliminate the black bars?

Blu-ray discs with java cannot be zoomed or stretched with this model. Those without can. The online manual has illustrations of the different modes.

The BDP-83 does not have that restriction. The current model BDP-93 still does, but we hope that will be lifted soon.

-Bill

Something else interesting with my test file. So I noticed the following:
Movie is 2:35 movie
test1 - hb 0.9.4
test2 - hb 0.9.5
test3 - ripbot

When playing test1/test2 it shows in full screen. I have my player set to 16:9 wide. If I put it in 16:9 wide/auto then the test file shows up fine but when in 16:9 wide mode test3 file shows in correct format - why?

Is handbrake stripping off the black bars and ripbot encoding the black bars into the rip?