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post #61 of 3937
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Originally Posted by WilliamZX11 View Post

True, but the 980 was one of the best video players available for the price when it was released, I don't think the same is true for the 80. I don't see where there will be much difference in video quality between the 80 and BD players currently available for as little as $100. They may not have SACD or DVD-A playback, but your average consumer has no use for that anyways.

Isn't it a bit early to judge the BDP-80's performance? We have no first-hand user feedback for BDP-80 yet. All we have are specs for it.

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Originally Posted by WilliamZX11 View Post

I can't think of any either. It's disappointing because it would probably add less than $10 to the cost, all the SD DVD players I have owned had them, most were under $200, some under $100.

The 980H didn't have an aluminum faceplate either. For that matter, I recall seeing a lot of DVD players in the sub-$200 price range that have had plastic faceplates. For that matter, my Panasonic BD30 (which cost me close to $500just a couple of years ago) has a plastic face plate - and one that is quite a bit less attractive than the BDP-80's. If they are going to sacrifice something to help get the cost down, going with a good-looking plastic face seems like a smart move to me.

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post #62 of 3937
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Originally Posted by simpucker View Post

Since the Oppo BDP-80 has a new video section, I wonder if the zoom functionality of the Oppo BDP-83 has been retained.

I read on these boards that the BDP-83 has a special zoom mode that is perfect for letterboxed fullscreen DVDs (the ones with black bars to the left, right and to the top and bottom).

If somebody who got their hands on the BDP-80 could test this, that would be great. BTW, by design, the zoom modes are not supposed to be functioning in Source Direct mode.

Thank you.

The manual doesn't state that zoom is disabled when source direct is used. It does say that certain discs may disable zoom but that is done by the discs author.
post #63 of 3937
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Originally Posted by uni_panther View Post

I have to say this player hits absolutely perfect for me. I went through a major upgrade in Fall of 08 and bought the DV983. It wasn't that much longer the BDP-83 came out for not a whole lot more than what I paid for my 983. It is one of the few things I have had bad timing on so I didn't want to jump right back in on the BDP-83. I have just been using my PS3 in the meantime.

Now with this though this couldn't of worked out better and seems like a great deal. Since I have plenty of space and hookups I will just keep my DV983 hooked up anyway and use that for DVD playing and just use the 80 for blu-ray. Great news hearing about this new Oppo.

Have you considered selling your 983 and buying a BDP-83? I understand the 983s command very attractive resale prices, sometimes even more than the original purchase price.
post #64 of 3937
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Originally Posted by simpucker View Post

Since the Oppo BDP-80 has a new video section, I wonder if the zoom functionality of the Oppo BDP-83 has been retained.

I read on these boards that the BDP-83 has a special zoom mode that is perfect for letterboxed fullscreen DVDs (the ones with black bars to the left, right and to the top and bottom).

If somebody who got their hands on the BDP-80 could test this, that would be great. BTW, by design, the zoom modes are not supposed to be functioning in Source Direct mode.

Thank you.

Wait until Monday. The beta testers will be able to say more after the official announcement.

-Bill
post #65 of 3937
Very nice. Pretty much exactly what I was hoping for. I transitioned away from standalone Blu-ray players to only using the PS3 about a year ago as I finally got fed up with the six month model cycles that have been the hallmark of the Blu-ray format for the last three years. I resisted the BDP-83 for several reasons, not the least of which were price (hard to justify five bills for BD and SACD with a PS3 sitting in the rack also), first gen product, and the fact that a good portion of the price of the 83 is for DVD features that mean absolutely nothing to me.

Also, there are a few desires I have that have kept me away from the "mainstream" brands such as PAL playback and multi-region hackability. So, looking at the list of features left out of the 80 vs. the 83...

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Originally Posted by Techlord View Post


Thing missing from the BDP-80
1. Glow in the dark remote, No Back-lit
2. DVD 24p Conversion
3. IR In/Out Ports
4. RS-232 Remote Control
5. Analog Output: Shared with 7.1ch
6. Cheaper plastic faceplate
7. "System-on-Chip" with Custom Firmware ?
8. For home theaters with large screens - (Not Recommended)

1. I use a universal remote that lights up very nicely, and in color .

2. I can count the number of DVDs I have watched in the past year on one hand and have fingers left over. Besides, I have a Toshiba HD-A35 HDDVD player which is quite a nice 24p DVD player when called upon.

3. IR port would have been a nice feature, but I have stick-on emitter in place already from the last BD player that was in the rack so no issue there.

4. Don't use RS-232.

5. Haven't used analog output on anything for a long time. Years. I tend to think my $2K Denon receiver likely has a rather better D-to-A section anyway.

6. Really hard to see the difference between plastic and aluminum faceplate in the dark .

7. System-on-chip with custom firmware, which is actually referring to the lack of the ABT processor...see #2. Non-issue for Blu-ray.

8. Again, referring to DVD playback. See #2 again.

$289 to get a fast, high quality player with all the features I have wanted in a BD player? My credit card is sitting next to my keyboard waiting for the moment the "buy" link becomes active. Yesterday would not be soon enough for me .
post #66 of 3937
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Originally Posted by jimsfield View Post

Have you considered selling your 983 and buying a BDP-83? I understand the 983s command very attractive resale prices, sometimes even more than the original purchase price.

Not really as I have never done that type of thing. The listing and the shipping and the transaction is just not my forte and I know of no one near me in person that would want something upper scale purely for DVD upconversion. That would be the most ideal situation especially considering the DV-983 has some weird hiccup with my Yamaha RX-V3900 that will not do 1080p over HDMI. It stops at 1080i.

It works fine directly to my tv but through the AVR there seems to be something that prevents 1080p. I talked to Oppo about it and they are aware of the issue and confirmed it in house but admitted to not knowing why it was happening. They assured me it wasn't a problem on the BDP-83 though and it was confirmed in house as well.

It isn't a HUGE issue as my tv deinterlaces just fine but sure I wish that hiccup wasn't there. I don't want to run directly to the tv because I like running everything through my AVR and having a single input in use on my tv and basically just switching sources through my AVR much like a Harmony remote. This convenience outweighs the other option in my eyes.

I'm sure before I get a 80 I will give them a call and have them confirm this issue doesn't exist with the player as well.
post #67 of 3937
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Originally Posted by WilliamZX11 View Post

True, but the 980 was one of the best video players available for the price when it was released, I don't think the same is true for the 80. I don't see where there will be much difference in video quality between the 80 and BD players currently available for as little as $100. They may not have SACD or DVD-A playback, but your average consumer has no use for that anyways.

OPPO players are not made for the "average consumer".
There are plenty of average products out there if that is what one is looking for.
The BDP-80 is a UNIVERSAL player. For plain Jane... vanilla... and/or average players, look elsewhere.

OPPO is a cut above the average player, and always has been,
As with the BDP-83, the BDP-80 will also do much more than just BD/DVD, SACD/DVDA... again, a "universal player".

BTW, how many $100 BD players have quality MCH 7.1 analog output?
How about a "source direct" option?
Just as well, there is also the stellar support and customer service from OPPO, that you do not get from the makers of more average players.
post #68 of 3937
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

OPPO players are not made for the "average consumer".
There are plenty of average products out there if that is what one is looking for.
The BDP-80 is a UNIVERSAL player. For plain Jane... vanilla... and/or average players, look elsewhere.

OPPO is a cut above the average player, and always has been,
As with the BDP-83, the BDP-80 will also do much more than just BD/DVD, SACD/DVDA... again, a "universal player".

BTW, how many $100 BD players have quality MCH 7.1 analog output?
How about a "source direct" option?
Just as well, there is also the stellar support and customer service from OPPO, that you do not get from the makers of more average players.

Where's the disclaimer about you not being an Oppo employee but just playing one on the internet?
post #69 of 3937
What would really be annoying is if this new Mediatek video decoder has resolved the teething artifact problem with MKV (weightp flag) on the BDP-83. It leaves us with the more expensive hardware in a sore spot.

Edit: I am actually not clear on if the Mediatek chip is any different than the one being used in the BDP-83.
post #70 of 3937
8. For home theaters with large screens - (Not Recommended)

...so for my 120" I should either go with the 83 or look elsewhere?.
I had no problem with my Panny BD35 @120".
post #71 of 3937
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Originally Posted by gluvhand View Post

Where's the disclaimer about you not being an Oppo employee but just playing one on the internet?

You are correct. I am not an OPPO employee.
However, I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
post #72 of 3937
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

You are correct. I am not an OPPO employee.
However, I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

Now you're talkin'!
post #73 of 3937
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Originally Posted by Chewbacco View Post

8. For home theaters with large screens - (Not Recommended)

...so for my 120" I should either go with the 83 or look elsewhere?.
I had no problem with my Panny BD35 @120".

Then you will probably be fine with the BDP-80 then.
The recommendation is based on getting the best PQ with DVD on larger screens.
That scenario will be much better with the ABT processing in the BDP-83.
For Blu-ray @ 1080p, just about any player will look similar.
post #74 of 3937
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

OPPO players are not made for the "average consumer".
There are plenty of average products out there if that is what one is looking for.
The BDP-80 is a UNIVERSAL player. For plain Jane... vanilla... and/or average players, look elsewhere.

OPPO is a cut above the average player, and always has been,
As with the BDP-83, the BDP-80 will also do much more than just BD/DVD, SACD/DVDA... again, a "universal player".

BTW, how many $100 BD players have quality MCH 7.1 analog output?
How about a "source direct" option?
Just as well, there is also the stellar support and customer service from OPPO, that you do not get from the makers of more average players.

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Originally Posted by gluvhand View Post

Where's the disclaimer about you not being an Oppo employee but just playing one on the internet?

LOL! I have always suspected he was taking his cut under the table type of deal... Course this is Smarty's own opinion only.
post #75 of 3937
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Its a interesting amalgamation of enhancements over the DV-980.

I would love to know what this means... without looking it up.

From context clues, I imagined "it has an impressive set of bling to suit potential buyers over their former DVD player".
post #76 of 3937
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Originally Posted by Barney_DaPurple1 View Post

LOL! I have always suspected he was taking his cut under the table type of deal... Course this is Smarty's own opinion only.

post #77 of 3937
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Wait until Monday. The beta testers will be able to say more after the official announcement.

By then, there will probably be about 500 posts!
post #78 of 3937
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Originally Posted by rick240 View Post

Too bad

It looks like they dropped ABT

They should have dropped analog, component, etc and made an 83 with a single HDMI connection.

The last thing Oppo wants is to give people a reason not to buy their BDP-83, the selling point for the BDP-83 is the ABT2010 chip. For those using HDMI v1.3 receivers that would be a mistake, since most won't be using the analog outs anyway since they have access to Dobly True HD and DTS HD Master Audio who would need to BDP-83?

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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

By then, there will probably be about 500 posts!

We will get there soon enough, just give it a week.
post #79 of 3937
The BDP-80 has shared stereo outputs. What is the benefit of the dedicated stereo outputs on the BDP-83? I am in a small apartment and still running a stereo system (B&W CM7s) - is the lack of dedicated stereo output on the BDP-80 reason enough to move up to the BDP-83?
post #80 of 3937
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Originally Posted by rsook View Post

The BDP-80 has shared stereo outputs. What is the benefit of the dedicated stereo outputs on the BDP-83? I am in a small apartment and still running a stereo system (B&W CM7s) - is the lack of dedicated stereo output on the BDP-80 reason enough to move up to the BDP-83?

It's reason enough to buy the BDP-83SE, but we will know more on Monday. The BDP-83 is more for those that have to have the ABT2010 video processing chip and for those with 1.3 HDMI!
post #81 of 3937
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Originally Posted by rsook View Post

The BDP-80 has shared stereo outputs. What is the benefit of the dedicated stereo outputs on the BDP-83? I am in a small apartment and still running a stereo system (B&W CM7s) - is the lack of dedicated stereo output on the BDP-80 reason enough to move up to the BDP-83?

The BDP-83 has better DACs on the dedicated stereo outputs: What is the difference between the stereo and 7.1 outputs?

-Bill
post #82 of 3937
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Originally Posted by Chewbacco View Post

8. For home theaters with large screens - (Not Recommended)

...so for my 120" I should either go with the 83 or look elsewhere?.
I had no problem with my Panny BD35 @120".

This also has a lot to do with the upconversion quality of the rest of your equipment. My Onkyo 886 and Viewsonic Pro8100 both have the HQV video chip so source direct is ideal for my setup. YMMV
post #83 of 3937
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

This is also has a lot to do with the upconversion quality of the rest of your equipment. My Onkyo 886 and Viewsonic Pro8100 both have the HQV video chip so source direct is ideal for my setup. YMMV

That's a good thought as I'm running straight into my Marantz VP11S2!..it's a tough decision. I'll wait for more user reviews as it's gonna be either the 80 or the 83.
post #84 of 3937
Since this thread is still "unofficial", I wonder how much of the recent talks about 3-D capable BD players influenced for the release of the BDP-80 at this time. It wouldn't surprise me if the good folks of OPPO has already thought about making their trio of BD players 3-D capable with a FW upgrade or something... just inciting an "unofficial" rumor, dat's all!
post #85 of 3937
I doubt Oppo is going to jump on the 3D bandwagon until more standards are ready.

Mike
post #86 of 3937
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Then you will probably be fine with the BDP-80 then.
The recommendation is based on getting the best PQ with DVD on larger screens.
That scenario will be much better with the ABT processing in the BDP-83.
For Blu-ray @ 1080p, just about any player will look similar.

I think that is what most people are missing! there a very very few differences between blu-ray players for 1080p playback. However, DVD playback, as we avs'ers know, is a whole different ball game. If all you want to play is blu ray, then your choice of players is vast indeed.
post #87 of 3937
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

This also has a lot to do with the upconversion quality of the rest of your equipment. My Onkyo 886 and Viewsonic Pro8100 both have the HQV video chip so source direct is ideal for my setup. YMMV

Yep! I am hopping to compare the 83 with its processing on my 120" screen with the 80 in source direct mode using the reon in my 3007 and see what happenes. I tried doing it with the 83, but it was too much work to switch it back and forth. This way I can go back and forth quickly and see if I can tell a difference!
Chris
post #88 of 3937
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Originally Posted by CCONKLIN1 View Post

Yep! I am hopping to compare the 83 with its processing on my 120" screen with the 80 in source direct mode using the reon in my 3007 and see what happenes. I tried doing it with the 83, but it was too much work to switch it back and forth. This way I can go back and forth quickly and see if I can tell a difference!
Chris

They should be identical. At least "in theory" they should be.

Edit: I meant they should be identical if they are both in source direct mode. I am curious what happens if you let the 83 do the scaling compared to the 80 in source direct with the 3007 handling the scaling.
post #89 of 3937
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Originally Posted by cconklin1 View Post

i think that is what most people are missing! There a very very few differences between blu-ray players for 1080p playback. However, dvd playback, as we avs'ers know, is a whole different ball game. If all you want to play is blu ray, then your choice of players is vast indeed.

+1
post #90 of 3937
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Originally Posted by beekermartin View Post

They should be identical. At least "in theory" they should be.

Edit: I meant they should be identical if they are both in source direct mode. I am curious what happens if you let the 83 do the scaling compared to the 80 in source direct with the 3007 handling the scaling.

Yes, should have been more specific. Plan on using DVD in 83 with it upscaled to 1080p. Then use 80 in "source direct" mode to scaler in my 3007 to 1080p. I would expect blu-rays to be identical (or so close I can't tell)...

Wow, now up to 3 pages for a owners thread for a player i can't even order. If only those losers....I mean... "beta testers" could post something. :-)
And beta-testers are losers because i was not invited!!
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