Official OPPO BDP-80 Owner's Thread - Page 4

What's considered a "larger screen"?

I'm using a 60" Kuro. Is that a "larger screen" or does the term primarily refer to front projection size screens?

I'm anxiously awaiting first hand reports to see if the 80 will be the BD player to replace my Pio 51.

For people using external VP's (eg Lumagen Radiance) the source direct out for the 80 is a great possibility.

Mike

wow, i always wanted to post in a thread that didn't exist

and also express my giddiness over this player coming out

Depends if you listen to a lot of 2ch. I would say if you have CM7s, that the 83SE is worth looking into. The improved DACs are something you might want to look into with decent speakers.

However, if you are completely set up with an HDMI connection and a good receiver/pre-pro then the 80 seems like a good ticket as a transport.

It isn't clear, but it makes sense for them to be using the exact same Mediatek chip for both. As a result, if an issue like the weightp flag gets fixed on one player, the fix would carry over to the other as well.

Their point isn't that the player is bad for a 120" screen. Their point is that the BDP-83 is enough better on a 120" screen (particularly for DVD) that they recommend upgrading to it.

If this comes in an Oppo bag inside the box, I'm sold!

That's standard.

Just read this:

"The Digital-to-Analog Converters (DACs) and analog driving stage in the BDP-80 is a tried-and-true design previously used in our flagship DV-983H up-converting DVD player."

Does this mean the 80 will provide an upgrade in AQ via the analog outputs over the 980H?

PS - For a thread that doesn't exist, it sure has taken off like wildfire! I can see it's going to be difficult keeping up with it.

Yes, was wondering when someone would notice that.

Yeah, but what COLOR is the bag?

Perhaps this quote I just found from the Secrets of Home Theater site sheds some light on this. It's in reference to a comment about how the 980H compares to the 983H in terms of analog AQ:

"I stand corrected on the 983 vs. the 980. Jason Liao, Vice President of Product Development at Oppo Digital, sent me an e-mail stating the following differences between the two:

The analog output stage of the 983H is based on the same design as the 980H, but receives some further optimization:

1.Isolated power regulators and larger capacitors are used for each portion of the analog audio path: the digital portion of the DAC, the analog portion of the DAC, and the op-amps.
2.The power supply voltage for the op-amps is raised to 12V and -12V from the 980H's 9V and -9V. This helps with the dynamic range.
3.The front L/R channels receive special treatment with better audio coupling capacitors and power de-coupling capacitors.
4.The switching power supply is electro-magnetically shielded.

One party out there has said the sound was better with the 983 and one has said any improvement was not very significant...."

As an owner of the 980H this sounds like good news for the 80.

Now another question is how will the 80 and 83 compare in terms of analog AQ (multichannel is of particular interest to me)?

"Not really as I have never done that type of thing. The listing and the shipping and the transaction is just not my forte and I know of no one near me in person that would want something upper scale purely for DVD upconversion"
You should consider putting it on ebay if you want to sell. That's how I found mine and every time one gets posted it gets snatched up pretty quickly. Just a suggestion.

CCONKLIN1,

I agree with everything you said except that the player that can be had for $100.00 doesn't support SACD or DVD-A nor does a player for $200.00 or $250.00. However, if you don't require this support, then you do have the options you mentioned. I think the players just below the price point of the BDP-80 and just above it do have something to worry about it.

Now that being said, I WANT ONE for my bedroom system also and I want it NOW!



Respectfully,
Willie

+1


uni_panther,

You may want to consider eBay. I would not be surprised if the selling price on eBay would cover the cost of the BDP-80.


Respectfully,
Willie

A 60" Kuro flat panel is considered bigger than average, think about the days of projection and DLP. Back then 65" was considered king of size until Mitsu came out with the 73" DLP.


Regards,
Teclord.

In addition to PQ and AQ, I hoping early adopters of the 80 can also comment on other things that are of great interest to me, namely error correction (ie - handling of rentals) and DVD layer change times (hopefully as good or better than the 980H).

The BDP-83 has a more mature firmware, who knows how the BDP-80 will perform out of the box... Perhaps it's just a watered down version of the BDP-83 minus some features, only time will tell.

But if he did go ahead and sell his 983, he would want the BDP-83, not the 80 to replace it.

Why is this Oppo model not recommended for large screens? I have a 114 inch projection screen.

What is "system on chip" and how is that different from the 83?

People. Stop talking like we are all industry insiders. What the heck is ABT VRS and why is it important (or not important). And what is DLNA?

And what is system on chip?

Correct, if I did happen to go that route I would get a BDP-83. I'm only looking at the 80 to complement my 983 as purely a blu-ray player so I don't have to use my PS3 for anything but gaming. I prefer stand alone players.

Plenty of options already out there for that.

You won't be singled out as you may be going the 983 route per se but there are others using PS3s mainly now for BD playback.

I'm just a bit concerned because I think expectations for BD quality with this player may be too high. So I ask, are you folks going to be happy if BD playback is a wash with the player you may already own???

What about if you have a 720p projector, so you output 720p from the 80? Will the 80 do lousy down conversion when outputting a blu-ray at 720p due to the chips it has?

See What chip does the player use for deinterlacing and scaling?


See What is DLNA?


See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System-on-a-chip

-Bill

Define "lousy".

-Bill

I realize that. I just happen to like Oppo is all. At the price point of the 80 it is worth paying a bit extra for myself to stay with another Oppo unit. I have used the PS3 for now but I never bothered to actually get the remote so I use the controller and I prefer my gaming consoles to just be gaming consoles. Even if the blu-ray playback is a wash at the pricepoint it is worth it to me to pick up and compliment by 983. Another Oppo is never a bad thing to me.

None of those links tell anyone why we should care whether the 80 has these things or not; or what the benefit exactly is.

Defined as -- Worse than the 83.

Everyone is prattling on about ABT chip NOT on the 80, which I believe is ONLY is for DVD upscaling.

What chip does the blu-ray DOWNSCALING (720p output) -- is it the SAME on the 83 as the 80 -- or is it different? Does the ABT have nothing to do with the output resolution when playing blu-ray discs (or does it)?

In other words, if I choose 720p output when playing a blu-ray on the 80, is there a concern for large screens (or does that ONLY apply to DVD upscaling -- which I couldn't care less about).

You're a hard person to help.

Wait until the product is announced on Monday. More info will be available then.

-Bill

What's so hard? You have not DIRECTLY answered any questions.

Simple question, not relevant to Monday. What chip does the down rez from 1080p output to 720p (playing a blu-ray disc)? Is it the ABT or something else?

Will 720p output be the same or worse with the 80 compared to the 83?