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Projector Ground Loop

post #1 of 6
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I've got a unique set up and need advice on how to best set up for safety without causing a ground loop. My Projector (Optoma HD65) is installed on the ceiling. There is a standard looking power outlet on the ceiling which is powered by a long cord that runs through the wall into a closet and plugs into a normal outlet in the closet (this plug has three prongs including the ground). Then my projector plugs directly into this outlet on the ceiling which is powered by this long cord into a closet plug. There was also a component cable through the wall and into a closet (so using a switch box for all my equipment). The problem is when I plug in the projector to the ceiling outlet I get very visible horizontal scrolling lines on the screen. Therefore, I took a three prong to two prong adaptor and removed the metal ground piece on the adaptor and FIXED the problem...no more lines! However, I've read this is unsafe, but the Outlet it's plugged into is powered by a three prong plug...so is it still grounded safely or not? If not, any thoughts on a simple solution to this? Thanks!!
post #2 of 6
Was that outlet in the ceiling installed by an electrician? If not, are you using an extension cord in the ceiling? That is not code. Regardless of who installed it, I would check to make sure it was wired correctly. Mis-wiring can cause that problem.

Another thing to try is to run the projector power to another outlet and see if you still have the problem.

But to answer your question, in a 3 wire circuit, the neutral and ground share the same buss in the electrical panel. But in your equipment, they are separate, so technically, it is not grounded.
post #3 of 6
What part of "safety" are you worried about????? I assume the projector is ceiling mounted so you "touched it once a year". However, running a "standard cord" thru a wall is a "fire hazard" among other things and against most codes. Your "ground issues" is most likely caused by "poor wire connections". Anyways, your "solution" is "valid"...safe... maybe but again not "standard"..... YMMV.
post #4 of 6
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I moved into a house last year that had the wiring already installed. I'm just learning about it and want to do it right and get the correct wiring in my home - it appears to be a bit jerry-rigged. It sounds like there may be some wiring issues so I'll get it checked out by an electrician. appreciate it, thanks!
post #5 of 6
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Originally Posted by miprsn View Post

it appears to be a bit jerry-rigged...I'll get it checked out by an electrician.

By all means, before you have a fire...
post #6 of 6
You've got two problems here...

1. Ground loop
2. Wiring not up to code

Regarding #2... Your present situation is not necessarily unsafe, but it's definately not up to code. The correct fix is to run romex from the ceiling plug to a point where it can tie into your other electrical circuity. That would presumably bring it up to code.

Unfortunately it probably will not solve problem number 1. That's because the closest point to tie into will probably not be on the same circuit as the rest of your equipment. Somewhere in there, you have grounds and neutrals causing problems, again not necessarily unsafe, but still causing video problems.

You've already figured out the easiest and cheapest way to remove the ground loop - you removed the ground. That however is unsafe, and should be rectified. The easiest, CORRECT way to do it is with one of these...

http://www.ebtechaudio.com/humxdes.html

The Hum X is available all over the place (incuding Walmart) for $50-70. That will get rid of the ground loop, while still keeping the equipment and you safe from electrical shock.

Jim
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