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post #1321 of 1397
Watched it last night, finally a really good action film and I thought this was the best of all those that came before it, maybe Iron Man 1.2 are almost on the same level with this one. I disagree with the negatives on the writing, I think it was it's strength. CA was particularly good, as he was that WW II generation type a stark [no pun intended] contrast to someone like Tony Stark with his cavalier attitude and giant ego. I guess CA comes across as cheesy to some and that's their problem. Whedon understood this character well, and written it just fine. I was surprised pleasantly once again by Chris Evans here just like in the CA movie that he could channel this character well without being a dumb ass he was in the Fantastic 4 movies. Talk about cheese!. In any case the sour points were Renner and to some degree Johansonn although she was far better then Portman was in Thor. Yes a different characters but they were the requisite female leads in those movies.
Also note the hack Michael Bay, this is how you stage action scenes with no stupid cuts, and focus on blowing shite up and how many different way building can explode at the expense of the characters in the scene. Oh and anyone can follow who's who in heat of the battle here. What a concept.wink.gif
post #1322 of 1397
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

Also note the hack Michael Bay, this is how you stage action scenes with no stupid cuts, and focus on blowing shite up and how many different way building can explode at the expense of the characters in the scene. Oh and anyone can follow who's who in heat of the battle here. What a concept.wink.gif

While I agree that Bay always go over the top with his action scenes, I was actually was more emotional involved in the story of TF3 compared to The Avengers.
post #1323 of 1397
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the story of TF3
There was a story? Is this like in a director's cut somewhere?
post #1324 of 1397
I post to take Amazon off of report for their slow shipping of my Avengers BDs. Just got an email that Amazon has dropped the price. That's a $5 reduction under the price when I ordered the discs, which seems to me to be fair compensation for a few days' delay in shipping them to me. I am really, really, really looking forward to seeing this movie again. Saw it the day it came out in 3D digital IMAX at a new state of the art IMAX theater so really want to see it in 2D in my HT without the hassle of 3D glasses. Have I mentioned before that I don't like 3D?smile.gif
post #1325 of 1397
I just like to add how good RDJ was in this and how his leadership of the Avengers, he really carried this movie. He had the best lines, his presence, timing and delivery were amazing. And sometimes I have to remind myself that this is the same goof off punk in Weird Science and coke head in Less than Zero. You talk about evolution of one's career.
post #1326 of 1397
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

I just like to add how good RDJ was in this and how his leadership of the Avengers, he really carried this movie. He had the best lines, his presence, timing and delivery were amazing. And sometimes I have to remind myself that this is the same goof off punk in Weird Science and coke head in Less than Zero. You talk about evolution of one's career.

I remember reading an interview RDJ did just before the Ironman 1 movie release. The gist of what he was saying was how his friends/peers Johnny Depp and Tobey Maguire had their huge blockbuster vehicles and he hoped Ironman would do that for him. IIRC.

When I read it, I'm like Yeah, right. No way. He's washed up and Ironman will probably be lame...tongue.gif
post #1327 of 1397
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

I remember reading an interview RDJ did just before the Ironman 1 movie release. The gist of what he was saying was how his friends/peers Johnny Depp and Tobey Maguire had their huge blockbuster vehicles and he hoped Ironman would do that for him. IIRC.
When I read it, I'm like Yeah, right. No way. He's washed up and Ironman will probably be lame...tongue.gif

I agree. Ever since Downey got his life turned around he has turned in a succession of terrific performances that have elevated everything he has been in.
post #1328 of 1397
He'll always be Lincoln Osiris to me.
post #1329 of 1397
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I agree. Ever since Downey got his life turned around he has turned in a succession of terrific performances that have elevated everything he has been in.

I agree, yet I think he has *always* given terrific performances, even during his "darker years" (Less than Zero, Restoration (where is the Blu-ray?!?!?), Air America, Chaplin, the list goes on...) People who know him because of Iron Man or Tropic Thunder should really take a look at his other movies. I've always liked him both as the actor and the person (well I don't know him obviously but what we know of him...). I was so glad to see him having a movie like Iron Man and get the recognition he deserves. He's an immense actor imo. Most importantly I was glad to see he was finally able beat his drug/alcohol/whatever addictions. He could have died more than once in the 90s.
post #1330 of 1397
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

I just like to add how good RDJ was in this and how his leadership of the Avengers, he really carried this movie. He had the best lines, his presence, timing and delivery were amazing. And sometimes I have to remind myself that this is the same goof off punk in Weird Science and coke head in Less than Zero. You talk about evolution of one's career.

While certainly an integral part of the movie I wouldn't say he carried it. Huddleson can definitely carry his own, Johansson was brilliant in her scene with Loki and Rufalo made you feel the tension throughout. No doubt, RDJ had a great role was well suited for it and made the most of it and definitely had some great lines but I think Evans did pretty close to the same with his fish out of water character. Now, I absolutely believe that without RDJ doing the Iron Man movies beforehand, The Avengers Initiative (sorry, had to do it) wouldn't have taken off like it did. I'd go as far as to say RDJ made The Avengers possible at least on a large scale.
post #1331 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

Huddleson can definitely carry his own, Johansson was brilliant in her scene with Loki and Rufalo made you feel the tension throughout. No doubt, RDJ had a great role was well suited for it and made the most of it and definitely had some great lines but I think Evans did pretty close to the same with his fish out of water character. Now, I absolutely believe that without RDJ doing the Iron Man movies beforehand, The Avengers Initiative (sorry, had to do it) wouldn't have taken off like it did. I'd go as far as to say RDJ made The Avengers possible at least on a large scale.

Hiddleston (that's the correct spelling I think wink.gif) was excellent indeed. I'm glad he didn't get killed off so we can expect more of Loki in Thor 2 and the next Avengers...
post #1332 of 1397
To carry on the discussion concerning the quality of The Avengers' cast, I thought it was mostly remarkable. Downey, Hiddleston, and Johansson were terrific but Mark Ruffalo blew me away. He is a wonderful actor and has become my default Bruce Banner/Hulk. Ruffalo made as big an impression on me in The Avengers as Robert Downey Junior did in Iron Man.
post #1333 of 1397
Besides ScarJo, Loki was the weak part of the film for me. He just didn't seem menacing enough and kind of came across as comic relief. With that said, I love this movie and my copy finally arrived today. Let the mayhem commence.
post #1334 of 1397
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He'll always be Lincoln Osiris to me.

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post #1335 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Besides ScarJo, Loki was the weak part of the film for me. He just didn't seem menacing enough and kind of came across as comic relief. With that said, I love this movie and my copy finally arrived today. Let the mayhem commence.
ScarJo is mostly weak in all her roles and to me unnecessary in this beyond eye candy.
post #1336 of 1397
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ScarJo is mostly weak in all her roles and to me unnecessary in this beyond eye candy.

Yeah, her commandering and use of the Chitauri vehicle was my biggest issue with the movie. Still, one facepalm for a summer blockbuster is pretty good for me - lately.
post #1337 of 1397
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

To carry on the discussion concerning the quality of The Avengers' cast, I thought it was mostly remarkable. Downey, Hiddleston, and Johansson were terrific but Mark Ruffalo blew me away. He is a wonderful actor and has become my default Bruce Banner/Hulk. Ruffalo made as big an impression on me in The Avengers as Robert Downey Junior did in Iron Man.
+1
post #1338 of 1397
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

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I love tropic thunder, Robert and Ben did a great job.
post #1339 of 1397
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I love tropic thunder, Robert and Ben did a great job.

I agree. Tropic Thunder was a wonderfully funny send up of every bad Viet Nam movie ever made. It might even make the makers of some of the good Viet Nam movies squirm.smile.gif Everybody in it was terrific but Robert Downey Junior and Ben Stiller were particularly good.
post #1340 of 1397
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

Yeah, her commandering and use of the Chitauri vehicle was my biggest issue with the movie. Still, one facepalm for a summer blockbuster is pretty good for me - lately.
I facepalmed at the invisible communication devices they used.
post #1341 of 1397
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

I facepalmed at the invisible communication devices they used.
I caught myself repeatedly trying to see an earpiece but couldn't. I know I saw them wearing them in different scenes throughout the film, but not during the final battle.
post #1342 of 1397
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I caught myself repeatedly trying to see an earpiece but couldn't. I know I saw them wearing them in different scenes throughout the film, but not during the final battle.

It must be invisible like there invisible air craft carrier.
post #1343 of 1397
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I agree. Tropic Thunder was a wonderfully funny send up of every bad Viet Nam movie ever made. It might even make the makers of some of the good Viet Nam movies squirm.smile.gif Everybody in it was terrific but Robert Downey Junior and Ben Stiller were particularly good.

I never get bored of it I always laugh smile.gif
post #1344 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

I agree, yet I think he has *always* given terrific performances, even during his "darker years" (Less than Zero, Restoration (where is the Blu-ray?!?!?), Air America, Chaplin, the list goes on...) People who know him because of Iron Man or Tropic Thunder should really take a look at his other movies. I've always liked him both as the actor and the person (well I don't know him obviously but what we know of him...). I was so glad to see him having a movie like Iron Man and get the recognition he deserves. He's an immense actor imo. Most importantly I was glad to see he was finally able beat his drug/alcohol/whatever addictions. He could have died more than once in the 90s.

I agree he's always been good, but most importantly he chooses his roles wisely and what suits him. I still consider his role in NBK as his best.
post #1345 of 1397
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Originally Posted by MovieSwede View Post

While I agree that Bay always go over the top with his action scenes, I was actually was more emotional involved in the story of TF3 compared to The Avengers.

Yeah so was I. I was throwing things at my tv in my frustration. Does that count emotionally involved? smile.gif
post #1346 of 1397
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

Yeah so was I. I was throwing things at my tv in my frustration. Does that count emotionally involved? smile.gif

Be honest, your real response was exactly this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYJ5vbSt9K0#t=50s


I sure hope you had since invested in a good plasma.
post #1347 of 1397
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

I facepalmed at the invisible communication devices they used.
I've seen a good number of TV shows use small in-ear devices, so no biggie for me...
post #1348 of 1397
If I can go along with an invisible flying aircraft carrier, I can go along with an in ear headset wink.gif
post #1349 of 1397
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Originally Posted by J_P_A View Post

If I can go along with an invisible flying aircraft carrier, I can go along with an in ear headset wink.gif

I agree
post #1350 of 1397
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Originally Posted by rezzy View Post

I've seen a good number of TV shows use small in-ear devices, so no biggie for me...

Jack Bauer and CTU were the kings of the small ear comms.
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