The Avengers - Page 2

It sounds to me like the 'best of both worlds' would be Whedon handling the main direction, and then hiring Cameron/Scott/Mann/etc. into the 2nd director spot handling the action. It'd be like a 'The Avengers: Hollywood Directors' edition

Here's a another worthy list BIG action epic directors more capable than Whedon:

Wachowski bros, steven spielberg, zhang zimou, robert zemekis, peter jackson,

HONORABLE mentions: Jan Debont, renny harlin, john Mctiernan, Rob Cohan, michael mann, oliver stone

Considering the source material came from a TV show (one of the best ever made, IMO), I thought Joss did a great job with 'Serenity'. The characters were already well developed and their personalities well know to most of the audience. That may have made it feel less "epic". But taken on it's own, that's still a jam-up movie. Whedon will do a great job with this one; you'll see. The guy loves comics, knows the genre, and understands how to put an entertaining movie together. He'll be fine.

Bay can make things go boom real nice. Believable plotlines and characters you can care about, not so much.I guess its just a matter of what you rather watch.

How do you know that Whedon can't do a big action movie until he tries one? By your logic, there was absolutely no way that Doug Liman could have made a good action movie after Swingers and Go. Except that, you know, he did.

Now I remember why you used to be on my Ignore List. Welcome back to it, zoey baby.

Surprised by the Whedon debate. Who has confidence in JW for "Avengers," and who thinks he's a poor choice?

1 vote for confident

I'm optimistic, with reservations.

And like I said earlier, he penned one of the best X-men runs in recent history. While not perfect, the man knows how to make an ensemble cast work. I honestly think he is perfectly suited for this type of film and right now I trust him more than Branahammer and Mighty Joe with their solo Avenger films.

Not to mention a lot of his one liners and ideas managed to make into a certain X men film everyone loves...

Alien 4 anyone? To clarify, I am a big fan of Whedon.

Joss has said he cried the first time he saw what had been done to his script at a screening.

I had no idea Whedon was involved with that Alien Resurrection movie. It was bad, but did have one powerful scene (where Ripley saw the failed experiments).

Whedon's ALIEN script was sh*t. Read three drafts of it, including the one with the character they wanted Chow Yun-Fat to play: A carbon copy of his character in the John Woo film, A BETTER TOMORROW, right now down long coat and matchstick in his mouth.

The final film was also sh*t.

I've been trying to remember that quote! Thanks.

It's official. The "Avengers" started filming today. Story here:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=76814

There is still only one Avengers for me and the characters include John Steed and Mrs. Peel....

Yup - how many prepubescent boomer boys had Diana Rigg as their idol!

I was in my early 20s and Diana Rigg was hot, hot, hot!

My first star crush. Diana Rigg turns 73 this July. I just dated myself. Ouch!

Iconic in that leather jumpsuit...I'm trying to remember, was she the first attractive, fashionable female to unashamedly kick butt? Sorta paved the way for Buffy...hmmm, maybe Joss is making the wrong movie. A reboot of THIS Avengers would seem to be right up his alley.

Mmm. Mrs. Peel

Thanks for the pic, adk. If anyone wants me, I'll be in my bunk.

I wanna be that snake and wrap my self.............

Am I the only one around here who is left cold by the very concept of Avengers-type movies?

I like the texture, depth and individuality you get with individual Super Hero stories.
Throwing a whole bunch of them together is this "more is better!" type mentality that so often is the death of taste. It's like those advertisements that yell "Now DOUBLE the amount of raisins in your cereal!" "Cookies now more fully packed with chocolate chips!"...with no hint of the fact that cooking and food is about balancing ingredients for the best experience. Simply shoving "more and more" of one ingredient into a cookie doesn't make it better; it often throws off the balance of the ingredients and makes it more monotonous or off-putting. The appeal to gluttony to offer "more" too often undermines the whole experience.

Same with these "more superhero the better" ideas for movies. It's more likely to produce watered down experiences of each character than a more compelling experience. And there just seems to be no reason for many of these characters to even BE in the same movie/story...except to find a way to shove them together. (The whole Alien vs Predator thing hits me the same way: "You like Alien? You like Predator? Here's a movie where we have BOTH and MAKE THEM FIGHT!" It's the movie version of a kid in a sandbox clashing action figures together. It actually makes both of them suck).

The other thing that has pissed me off about The Avengers is how it's infected other damned SH movies, especially Iron Man 2. There were just gratuitous, non-essential cameos and set-ups shoved into that movie to set up the Avengers, which ultimately
diffused the dramatic focus of the movie. Enough with the Avengers already!

(All that said, maybe the Avengers will be a decent flick. But the general concept and issues surrounding it are somewhat off-putting for reasons above).

Am I just a lone voice in the wilderness here?

Hold me...I'm cold...

...such as League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? How about "Batman and Robin"

As for food, today it's all about loading everything with pepper and calling it "zesty".

Yes, you are the only one. The Avengers have been around as a concept since the 60s and this is not simply throwing the popular super heroes together as cash grab. The interplay between Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man has come to be known as "Marvel's Holy Trinity" for a reason.

Yeah, I know. I was an avid comic collector, Marvel in particular, for decades.
The Avengers was one of the few Marvel comics that left me utterly cold, for the same reasons.

Following the success of Spiderman/X-men, the flood of getting every comic book hero into a movie are "cash grabs." The Avengers, if anything, especially.

I'm certainly not alone, I know, in observing that the set up for the Avengers movie left elements of Iron Man 2 feeling disjointed, bloated and gratuitous. That was a pretty common criticism of the film.

The real question about The Avengers is how much of the screen Robert Downey's ego will occupy?