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post #931 of 1397
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

The size of a digital IMAX screen depends on the theater. For example the new Moore Warren IMAX in Moore, OK, and its twin, the Witchita Warren IMAX in Witchita, KS have screens that are 101 feet wide. I have already seen a couple of films in the Moore Warren IMAX and can attest that it is humongous. They are claimed to be the largest digital IMAX screens in the world.

I saw the 2D version of The Avengers today and loved it. I decided against seeing it in 3D at the Moore Warren IMAX because I simply hate post-production 3D. Although I saw the film at the 10:30 AM shown in a neighborhood cineplex the theater was more than half full. It looked and sounded great.

I generally talk trash about post converted 3D, but this one looked pretty good in 3D. They really made sure to do it right. I'd still like to see the 2D version though as well, but had no complaints about the 3D.
post #932 of 1397
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Originally Posted by MTyson View Post

I generally talk trash about post converted 3D, but this one looked pretty good in 3D. They really made sure to do it right. I'd still like to see the 2D version though as well, but had no complaints about the 3D.

Part of my antipathy to post-conversion 3D should be attributed to my aging eyeballs. Those 3D glasses make my eyes water and I often leave the theater with a headache. Worst of all, I usually don't see one scene out of ten that I think was truly helped by 3D effects. Thus, it usually makes more sense for me to drive the 6 or 7 minutes it takes to get to a neighborhood cineplex where I can see a first class 2D presentation for $4.00. That is what I did today when I saw The Avengers.
post #933 of 1397
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Originally Posted by MTyson View Post

I generally talk trash about post converted 3D, but this one looked pretty good in 3D. They really made sure to do it right. I'd still like to see the 2D version though as well, but had no complaints about the 3D.

Was considering my second viewing be 3D (saw 2D on opening day). Your comment solidified my plans.
post #934 of 1397
Great fun movie! Saw it twice in 2d. Planning on catching a 3d showing this weekend.
post #935 of 1397
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

The size of a digital IMAX screen depends on the theater. For example the new Moore Warren IMAX in Moore, OK, and its twin, the Witchita Warren IMAX in Witchita, KS have screens that are 101 feet wide. I have already seen a couple of films in the Moore Warren IMAX and can attest that it is humongous. They are claimed to be the largest digital IMAX screens in the world.

I saw the 2D version of The Avengers today and loved it. I decided against seeing it in 3D at the Moore Warren IMAX because I simply hate post-production 3D. Although I saw the film at the 10:30 AM shown in a neighborhood cineplex the theater was more than half full. It looked and sounded great.

'Sounded great' and Tinseltown should never be in the same sentence... Unless their biggest screens have much better speakers than their `home theater in a box' theaters.

I can also attest to that theater's size and once again the two Okies are hijacking a blockbuster thread! YESS!!
post #936 of 1397
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Originally Posted by MTyson View Post

I generally talk trash about post converted 3D, but this one looked pretty good in 3D. They really made sure to do it right.

How much of this movie is converted 3D? Films like this are so special effects heavy, which these days means CG/animation (as opposed to model work). Do those effects shots have to be converted to 3D or are they rendered as 3D to begin with?

Movies with "post converted 3D" may actually have less conversion than people think, just as movies "shot in 3D" (Transformers 3) have way more conversion than people assume. Those two categories aren't really that distinct.
post #937 of 1397
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post


I saw the 2D version of The Avengers today and loved it. I decided against seeing it in 3D at the Moore Warren IMAX because I simply hate post-production 3D. Although I saw the film at the 10:30 AM shown in a neighborhood cineplex the theater was more than half full. It looked and sounded great.

I was going to go 3D again but decided to go 2D on Monday.
post #938 of 1397
Here are 2 links (Scene 1 and Scene 2) that discuss the 2 extra scenes at the end of the movie.

Warning: The above links should only be viewed if you have seen the movie.....you have been warned.
post #939 of 1397
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Originally Posted by sdurani View Post

How much of this movie is converted 3D? Films like this are so special effects heavy, which these days means CG/animation (as opposed to model work). Do those effects shots have to be converted to 3D or are they rendered as 3D to begin with?

Movies with "post converted 3D" may actually have less conversion than people think, just as movies "shot in 3D" (Transformers 3) have way more conversion than people assume. Those two categories aren't really that distinct.

As far as I know the entire movie itself is post converted, but when it comes to the CGI effects and stuff I have not a clue if they were rendered for 3D viewing. They'd just have to have two "cameras" in the program capture them from two perspectives and composite them. I don't know if they went through the trouble of rendering them in true 3D. All I do know is the 3D was pretty decent, pretty good for being a post convert. They may have took it step further for such a big film though in post. Not sure.

BTW, The Avengers is at $244,014,897 Domestically after Tuesday & $744,114,897 Worldwide. The Avengers is now the fastest to reach $100 million, $150 million, $200 million and will be the fastest to reach $250 million (6 days) beating The Dark Knight by two whole days. It experience only a 7% drops on Tuesday. I really hope this beats Titanic at least domestically and worldwide (though may be more difficult due to the rerelease). Would be nice to see it at #2 of all time. I don't have much hope for it topping Avatar. That movie was just a freak of nature and I think had much less competition due to when it was released. Though, I'd love for it to top Avatar.
post #940 of 1397
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Originally Posted by MTyson View Post

BTW, The Avengers is at $244,014,897 Domestically after Tuesday & $744,114,897 Worldwide. The Avengers is now the fastest to reach $100 million, $150 million, $200 million and will be the fastest to reach $250 million (6 days) beating The Dark Knight by two whole days. It experience only a 7% drops on Tuesday. I really hope this beats Titanic at least domestically and worldwide (though may be more difficult due to the rerelease). Would be nice to see it at #2 of all time. I don't have much hope for it topping Avatar. That movie was just a freak of nature and I think had much less competition due to when it was released. Though, I'd love for it to top Avatar.

Domestically it would need some incredible legs to go to $600,000,000. Titanic stayed 17 weeks at the top (!!!) on a 41 weeks total. There are some big movies coming up this year, starting with The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus. I don't see The Avengers going to 2 billion worlwide either, unless people go see it again and again. Personally I don't care if it tops Titanic or not (HP7 is 3rd with a 1 billion difference btw), it's already a huge hit. It will have legs I'm sure but Avatar and Titanic are just too far on top.
post #941 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

Domestically it would need some incredible legs to go to $600,000,000. Titanic stayed 17 weeks at the top (!!!) on a 41 weeks total. There are some big movies coming up this year, starting with The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus. I don't see The Avengers going to 2 billion worlwide either, unless people go see it again and again. Personally I don't care if it tops Titanic or not (HP7 is 3rd with a 1 billion difference btw), it's already a huge hit. It will have legs I'm sure but Avatar and Titanic are just too far on top.

I think it will because im going to see it twice
post #942 of 1397
I never, never go to the theater and I will be seeing it again, this weekend!
post #943 of 1397
It will be a stunner if The Avengers topped the likes of Titanic. For starters, there was very little competing for Titanic's dollars in '97 (Titanic released Dec '97) and '98. Secondly, unlike The Avengers, no one was waiting on Titanic so it got the benefit of that "slow burn". It started small and quiet and word of mouth pushed it along well into 1998. The Avengers is kind of having more of a big bang box office because everyone knew it was coming and had certain expectations based on the previous Marvel releases. Also, with The Avengers, a whole family might go and subsequently the majority repeaters will be men. Titanic was more of a date movie, which meant wives not only "dragged" their husbands to the movie but subsequently, they went back with their sisters and then girlfriends. Teenage girls (who love DiCaprio) went with their boyfriends, and then their girlfriends and when they got into a fight with those boyfriends and girlfriends they "dragged" their new boyfriends and new girlfriends. And since teenagers don't really have much else to do they go to the movies over and over and over, especially for someone like DiCaprio. And lastly, two words.....Celine Dion! Did The Avengers even have a soundtrack? (I know it did)
post #944 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

Domestically it would need some incredible legs to go to $600,000,000. Titanic stayed 17 weeks at the top (!!!) on a 41 weeks total. There are some big movies coming up this year, starting with The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus. I don't see The Avengers going to 2 billion worlwide either, unless people go see it again and again. Personally I don't care if it tops Titanic or not (HP7 is 3rd with a 1 billion difference btw), it's already a huge hit. It will have legs I'm sure but Avatar and Titanic are just too far on top.

I mostly agree with this statement. However, neither of the movies you mention premiere this month, giving Avengers pretty much most of May to hold onto the box office. Secondly, you have to factor in that Avengers has a slight advantage with current year ticket prices, not to mention the 3D and IMAX/XD/RPX screen surcharges (which last weekend's audience was only too-willing to pay, despite the downward trend of 3D appeal). Finally, as a few have posted on here, there are people who NEVER go to the theater anymore who are coming out to see this movie, not once, but twice or more. I don't think it will top Titanic, but I suspect it will come much closer than you might think.

Dollars are meaningless for comparative purposes unless normalized - I'd really like to know actual number of tickets sold for each of the big movies. That statistic may be out there somewhere, I just haven't looked for it.
post #945 of 1397
Ooooh....3D/IMAX technologies.....kind of lost sight of that in my previous post. I still expect Titanic to hold on but the gap may be more narrow than I first thought.
post #946 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

And lastly, two words.....Celine Dion!

lol really? I get your point but do you really think this damn 3 minutes credits song made people buy tickets? Had it been me I would just have bought the CD, but if I'm going to the theater it's for the movie, not the end credits Maybe people will go see The Avengers more than once because some of them missed the extra scenes at the end? (I think I'm going to see it one more time btw!)
post #947 of 1397
I strongly doubt it will beat THE DARK KNIGHT (USA BO) let alone TITANIC

2 Titanic Par. $658,160,411
3 The Dark Knight WB $533,345,358

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm
post #948 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

lol really? I get your point but do you really think this damn 3 minutes credits song made people buy tickets? Had it been me I would just have bought the CD, but if I'm going to the theater it's for the movie, not the end credits Maybe people will go see The Avengers more than once because some of them missed the extra scenes at the end? (I think I'm going to see it one more time btw!)

Do I think people heard her song and thought "Oh, I'll go see this movie"? Absolutely not, at least not directly. But the song absolutely did keep the popularity of the movie...afloat, sorry about that. You heard it so much (because frankly it was so good) that it kept people talking about it and kept the movie on everyone's minds. It wasn't very long ago that it was playing on the radio (which hasn't happened in a while) and the two women in the car with me started in "Jack...Jack!" and it wasn't long before they started talking about how much they loved the movie and needed to watch it again. The phenomenon was stronger back in 1998. Much like the soundtrack to Star Wars, I 100% believe that the Titanic while still would have been popular and a good movie, would not have been what it was without Celine's song nor would her song have been as big without the movie.
post #949 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

Do I think people heard her song and thought "Oh, I'll go see this movie"? Absolutely not, at least not directly. But the song absolutely did keep the popularity of the movie...afloat, sorry about that. You heard it so much (because frankly it was so good) that it kept people talking about it and kept the movie on everyone's minds. It wasn't very long ago that it was playing on the radio (which hasn't happened in a while) and the two women in the car with me started in "Jack...Jack!" and it wasn't long before they started talking about how much they loved the movie and needed to watch it again. The phenomenon was stronger back in 1998. Much like the soundtrack to Star Wars, I 100% believe that the Titanic while still would have been popular and a good movie, would not have been what it was without Celine's song nor would her song have been as big without the movie.

maybe. And as much as I hate Horner's cheap Enya references in Titanic's score (synth choir goddammit, synth choirs!!!!!) , there are indeed a few pieces that do stand out. I'm almost tempted to buy the 4-Disc anniversary edition

...back to The Avengers and speaking of music, while I think Silvestri did a fine job, I was a bit disappointed. Maybe I need to hear it again, but imo the music could have been more "prominent" at times.
post #950 of 1397
I don't know. I don't think the 3D was all that great. It definitely gave me a headache. I was more impressed with the 3D in the Amazing Spider-Man trailer, which as we all know is native 3D.

At least I'll get a chance to see Spider-Man in IMAX so I won't have to worry about coming away with too bad a headache.
post #951 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

maybe. And as much as I hate Horner's cheap Enya references in Titanic's score (synth choir goddammit, synth choirs!!!!!) , there are indeed a few pieces that do stand out. I'm almost tempted to buy the 4-Disc anniversary edition

...back to The Avengers and speaking of music, while I think Silvestri did a fine job, I was a bit disappointed. Maybe I need to hear it again, but imo the music could have been more "prominent" at times.

Man, that is so weird. As big of a music guy as I am, including soundtracks (to me it's as much of a character as the actors portray), I have basically no recollection of the soundtrack. And I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing considering how I feel about the movie. But as it turns out, my girl just sent me a text telling me there's a showing tonight at one of our local independent lounge theaters and SHE wants to go see it again there. So it looks like I'll get another crack at that soundtrack (as well as a few details that I might have missed the first go round).

Notice I didn't respond to you considering the purchase of the 4 disc anniversary edition. We'll keep that detail between us
post #952 of 1397
I think The Avengers will be 3rd all time worldwide, but will not pass Titanic (for the reasons already stated) and definitely won't pass Avatar.

On a side note, I want my blu ray now!!!
post #953 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Dbuudo07 View Post

I think The Avengers will be 3rd all time worldwide, but will not pass Titanic (for the reasons already stated) and definitely won't pass Avatar.

On a side note, I want my blu ray now!!!

No isht!
post #954 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post

I strongly doubt it will beat THE DARK KNIGHT (USA BO) let alone TITANIC

2 Titanic Par. $658,160,411
3 The Dark Knight WB $533,345,358

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm

Why do you highly doubt it can top the The Dark Knight domestically? It easily beat The Dark Knight to the $100 mill point, the $150 mill point, the $200 mill point and will beat it to the $250 million point by 2 whole days. It sold about 4 million more tickets opening weekend. It's getting strong word of mouth, amazing reviews, many people are planning on seeing it twice (or more, including myself), many people going haven't been to the cinema in years (myself included). Next weekend could be a $120+ million weekend if it has a 40% drop or less. That means by the end of the weekend it may have $390+ million in two week. Don't wanna jinx it though, but we shall see. Guess it depends how much business Dark Shadows brings.

It may not reach The Dark Knight domestically, but I think it'll reach #3 of all time worldwide behind Avatar and Titanic at the very least.
post #955 of 1397
One thing this film has over Dark Knight when it comes to spiking the gross is 3D sales.

I doubt Avengers beats it in total foot traffic, but because of 3D (and IMAX 3D) it wouldn't be surprising seeing it make more dollars.
post #956 of 1397
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Originally Posted by joeblow View Post

One thing this film has over Dark Knight when it comes to spiking the gross is 3D sales.

I doubt Avengers beats it in total foot traffic, but because of 3D (and IMAX 3D) it wouldn't be surprising seeing it make more dollars.

Only 52% of total revenue came from 3D ticket sales. It's not like AVATAR where 80% came from 3D ticket sales.
post #957 of 1397
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post


Do I think people heard her song and thought "Oh, I'll go see this movie"? Absolutely not, at least not directly. But the song absolutely did keep the popularity of the movie...afloat, sorry about that. You heard it so much (because frankly it was so good) that it kept people talking about it and kept the movie on everyone's minds. It wasn't very long ago that it was playing on the radio (which hasn't happened in a while) and the two women in the car with me started in "Jack...Jack!" and it wasn't long before they started talking about how much they loved the movie and needed to watch it again. The phenomenon was stronger back in 1998. Much like the soundtrack to Star Wars, I 100% believe that the Titanic while still would have been popular and a good movie, would not have been what it was without Celine's song nor would her song have been as big without the movie.

Couldn't agree more. I love that song and feel like once a person saw Titanic, a big part of what stuck with them was the music.
post #958 of 1397
Is it just me or is it funny that the biggest "AVS Type Debate" about this movie is how much it will make? Maybe the Mayans had that 2012 thing right after all!
post #959 of 1397
I would really like to watch this movie, too bad it is not released yet in my country.
post #960 of 1397
About the differences between the two Hulk outs, here is a great explanation:

http://badassdigest.com/2012/05/08/a...-the-avengers/
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