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post #2431 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

Tried to watch the third episode of The Fall last night and Netflix was experiencing a big outage - at least in my region. Amazon Prime seemed unaffected.

I couldn't connect to Netflix at all yesterday in late afternoon and evening. Very frustrating. It seems that Netflix often ends availability at midnight Friday, perhaps that causes Friday overload.

I hate that Netflix gives so little notice when they end availability of a series. Why can't they give us a month's notice in the Queu when a series is about to go bye-bye? Not sure, but I think they are only announcing about ten days in advance, maybe less.
post #2432 of 3052
Again I think they can only serve x amount of customers per title. That's why some of us have found in the past a very popular title hard to get without rebuffering or serving something that resembles a YouTube 240p stream. Switch to an obscure movie even in HD and no problem.

I also think NF is being cautious about building out as there is beginning to be some competition in the subscription services and an imprudent build out could wipe them out.
post #2433 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Richard Burger View Post



I hate that Netflix gives so little notice when they end availability of a series. Why can't they give us a month's notice in the Queu when a series is about to go bye-bye? Not sure, but I think they are only announcing about ten days in advance, maybe less.

Yeah, and the really sad part is they are not giving out the info to other sites like instantwatcher either ..
post #2434 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

Again I think they can only serve x amount of customers per title. That's why some of us have found in the past a very popular title hard to get without rebuffering or serving something that resembles a YouTube 240p stream. Switch to an obscure movie even in HD and no problem.

I also think NF is being cautious about building out as there is beginning to be some competition in the subscription services and an imprudent build out could wipe them out.

I thought they leased server space from Amazon .. ??
post #2435 of 3052
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I thought they leased server space from Amazon .. ??

As far as I can tell (by monitoring connections made by devices and the amount of information flowing over those connections using my router) Netflix does use Amazon servers, but it seems to be in some supervisory capacity. I think that the players get information about the catalog and poster thumbs, etc for their browsers from the Amazon servers and that those servers assign connections to the content streaming servers which are in large commercial Content Delivery Networks (CDNs), primarily Level 3, Limelight and Akamai. I know that they use Amazon servers for content creation (or at least they used to): creating all of the necessary audio and video encodes from the sources that their content providers give them to stream.

If your ISP is set up to access Netflix's private Open Connect CDN often no Amazon server gets involved and that supervisory function is assumed by an OC server. They're trying to assume as much of the work in their own CDN as possible to cut costs.
post #2436 of 3052
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

As far as I can tell (by monitoring connections made by devices and the amount of information flowing over those connections using my router) Netflix does use Amazon servers, but it seems to be in some supervisory capacity. I think that the players get information about the catalog and poster thumbs, etc for their browsers from the Amazon servers and that those servers assign connections to the content streaming servers which are in large commercial Content Delivery Networks (CDNs), primarily Level 3, Limelight and Akamai. I know that they use Amazon servers for content creation (or at least they used to): creating all of the necessary audio and video encodes from the sources that their content providers give them to stream.

If your ISP is set up to access Netflix's private Open Connect CDN often no Amazon server gets involved and that supervisory function is assumed by an OC server. They're trying to assume as much of the work in their own CDN as possible to cut costs.

Last year on Christmas Eve NF had a major outage and the SNAFU was blamed on Amazon by the folks at NF .. and they specifically stated that the content was stored on Amazon Cloud .. I don't know what if anything, NF has done since then .. it was a little bit of a bru ha ha since some felt there was some sort of conspiracy going on with Amazon being NF competitor and Amazons catalog did not suffer any outage ..

I only keep track of these things because I am a NF shareholder and I also have stock in Level 3 which
post #2437 of 3052
All I can tell you is that I've whiled away considerable time looking at this (and prior to Xmas Eve) and have never seen a device exchange more than a trickle of information with an Amazon server; the obvious video stream is coming from elsewhere. You can check it out yourself using Windows, particularly easily if you're running Win8 and can use the Win8 Netflix app, though you can monitor the player running in a web browser; I describe how to do it in this post).

If Amazon's servers are being used in the way that I've theorized you wouldn't be able to get hook up to any of the content streaming servers if they were down or up but working improperly.
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I'm not doubting you .. just passing on what the NF stance was .. they blamed Amazon ..
post #2439 of 3052
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I'm not doubting you .. just passing on what the NF stance was .. they blamed Amazon ..

If they use Amazon servers as I think they do (to respond to requests from the client apps, feeding them data about the catalog for their browsers and setting up connections to actual streaming servers when the user requests playback) you'd be equally as screwed if you lost that function instead of the content servers, if not more so. Amazon freely admitted that it was their fault and in turn blamed power failures. More reason for Netflix to get as many customers as they can transferred over to their Open Connect CDN, where they can take their own measures against catastrophe. As I understand it, they've got nearly all of non-US ISPs hooked up to Open Connect and in the US they've got Cablevision/Optimum and Cox's national systems and many smaller local ISPs. Of course, the vast majority of cable customers in the US are served by Comcast and TWC (35 million combined, I think) who continue to hold out.
post #2440 of 3052
Guys, you wouldn't know for sure unless you actually worked for NF. Their PR department will publish disinfo when required as most company PR departments do. Last night I finished one episode of season 4 of "Arrested Development" that I couldn't get in HD earlier in the week. Looking for a movie I spotted "Silent Hill Revelations" which might have even been put up last evening because I don't recall seeing it in New Releases yesterday afternoon. I've been noticing some releases being added over the weekend. Well I couldn't get it HD and just checked and InstantWatcher shows it as "most popular". Instead I opted for the highly stylish The Big Bad which is a werewolf film that I guess half of you will hate because of art house style and the other half will love. Very different and I gave it 4 stars. I'd love to see what they can do with a bigger budget. No problems with it in HD.
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If I'd heard about this, I'd forgotten it. A new series is coming to Netflix, Orange is the New Black. Seems to be a fish-out-of-water comedy about a woman serving 15 months in prison. Apparently it drops on the 11 July; there are four trailers as I write this. EDIT: I watched the 4 trailers; seems pretty good. Trailers are "Orange is the New Black", "Broken Down", Strip Search" and "Ice Cream". I offer these links because I tried searching for the latter three in the Win8 Netflix app, Roku 3 and WD TV Live with no success. TiVo Premiere's Netflix player found them and let me put them in my queue (surprising, since it's inferior to the others in multiple ways). Actually, now that I look at it, all of the links, though different, take you to that same stupid page from which you can play all of the trailers in a web browser, but cannot put any of them in your IQ. Looks like unless you have TiVo (or a PS3, which brings up a special full page thing from which you can play all of the trailers) you may have watch all but the first in a web browser in 720p, no DD+ 5.1 sound. No big, they're only trailers biggrin.gif.
Edited by michaeltscott - 6/19/13 at 12:36am
post #2442 of 3052
I wish they'd update the 7mc plugin. I can't get HD streams on mine, have to go to the roku or wdtv if I want to watch something that I care about.
post #2443 of 3052
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

I wish they'd update the 7mc plugin. I can't get HD streams on mine, have to go to the roku or wdtv if I want to watch something that I care about.

An update of Win7 Media Center seems really, really unlikely. You could watch in 720p in the web site player.
post #2444 of 3052
I recommended Extinction: The G.M.O. Chronicles over on the horror fans thread. It did play recently on the Xbox network and was just added this week on Netflix WI. Not your usual zombie movie because the "zombies" have been infected by a virus from an herbicide "Ranch Hand" by a GMO company. It's one of these new German films where the German actors do their parts in English to broaden the market for the films. I liked the cinematography in it (Red camera) and the story seemed to be a bit inspired by Cormac McCarthy's "The Road" as it has a bit of that tone in it.
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In the typical modern zombie film people have been turned into zombies via some sort of virus, the result of some corporate experiment gone horribly wrong. 28 Days Later, Shaun of the Dead, The Crazies, Zombieland and The Walking Dead spring to mind. They're not your classical, supernaturally voodoo animated corpses.
Edited by michaeltscott - 6/21/13 at 2:55pm
post #2446 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

I recommended Extinction: The G.M.O. Chronicles over on the horror fans thread. It did play recently on the Xbox network and was just added this week on Netflix WI. Not your usual zombie movie because the "zombies" have been infected by a virus from an herbicide "Ranch Hand" by a GMO company. It's one of these new German films where the German actors do their parts in English to broaden the market for the films. I liked the cinematography in it (Red camera) and the story seemed to be a bit inspired by Cormac McCarthy's "The Road" as it has a bit of that tone in it.

good tip .. this will help a little in tiding me over till Walking Dead cranks back up ..
post #2447 of 3052
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

good tip .. this will help a little in tiding me over till Walking Dead cranks back up ..

It's pretty decent. Another to try, for zombie fans, is Exit Humanity. The Revenant isn't on Instant but worth a watch also.
post #2448 of 3052
Wow, Netflix got The Avengers. That's a pretty big land.
post #2449 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

Wow, Netflix got The Avengers. That's a pretty big land.

But sadly lacking 5.1 audio, which is a big disappointment for a film of that nature.
post #2450 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

Wow, Netflix got The Avengers. That's a pretty big land.
Not really. It'll be on Spike like Star Wars pretty soon too.
post #2451 of 3052
They already have Thor and Captain America, both of which have DD+ 5.1 sound when at least one of them didn't when they were added at the onset of the Epix deal. Until sometime fairly recently they had Iron Man 2 (I don't think that they ever had the first Iron Man).
post #2452 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

I've been enjoying The Fall with Gillian Anderson and can see why it listed as one of the most popular titles on Netflix in more ways than one: it can be difficult to get NF to deliver it without rebuffering or even at a decent bitrate. It's again proof that the only have so much resources to stream a title.

I watched the whole thing yesterday--didn't have any problems. It was pretty good. Sad that we'll apparently have to wait until the end of 2014 to see more; BBC ordered a second season but Gillian Anderson was too busy to film it any sooner.
post #2453 of 3052
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I watched the whole thing yesterday--didn't have any problems. It was pretty good. Sad that we'll apparently have to wait until the end of 2014 to see more; BBC ordered a second season but Gillian Anderson was too busy to film it any sooner.

She was too busy with Hannibal. wink.gif



Ian biggrin.gif
post #2454 of 3052
I just started a thread over on HDTV Programming about "Crossing Lines". If you are a fan of foreign TV series this NBC summer offering was entirely foreign produced and smart much like the series I find on NF WI from other countries. I guess the pressure is mounting on US TV networks to stop doing the same ol' dumbed down schlock.

I watched Inhale the other night which was interesting though seemed like a made for cable movie and probably was (didn't recall seeing the usual suspects in the final credits though).
post #2455 of 3052
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

I watched Inhale the other night which was interesting though seemed like a made for cable movie and probably was (didn't recall seeing the usual suspects in the final credits though).

I believe it went direct to video. I caught it sometime ago on BD.


Ian
post #2456 of 3052
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Originally Posted by passingbat View Post

But sadly lacking 5.1 audio, which is a big disappointment for a film of that nature.

Amazon Prime has it with Dolby Digital+ 5.1 audio, decent picture quality.
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BTW they are filming the sequel in Cleveland right now. They shut down a major commuter freeway for two weeks to film car chases, gun battles, etc. They were exploding and flipping stunt cars in front of my workplace. They have been filming in the Cleveland Museum of Art for the last two days.
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^ wow that had to be pretty cool! bet you didnt get much work done those two wks biggrin.gif
post #2458 of 3052
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Originally Posted by pbarach View Post

Amazon Prime has it with Dolby Digital+ 5.1 audio, decent picture quality.

Amazon Prime has 5.1 sound for a number of things which don't have it on Netflix, The Hunger Games being another example. Big ticket films like these aren't likely to have 1080p video encodes on Netflix (though some of them show up as "Super HD" it's a lie), so PQ on Amazon Prime is probably every bit as good if not better.

I use TVandMoviesNow.com to search; if you search Netflix it will show if any matches are also present in Amazon (and vice-versa). You can see which one has the superior video and audio presentation. (Of course a search for "The Avengers" doesn't work that way or show that the Amazon version has 5.1 sound. This is no doubt because I'm bragging about the search engine rolleyes.gif).
post #2459 of 3052
I was surprised to see Mark Henninger 'House of Cards: Blu-ray vs. Amazon vs. Netflix vs. Vudu' review which says 'The tables are turned! This is the first time I have seen Amazon HD video decisively beat Vudu HDX. I'm not surprised, because Amazon displays the bitrate, and House of Cards was streaming at 15Mbps, which is a tremendous amount of bandwidth for online delivery. The extra bandwidth clearly helped, because Amazon's video was noticeably cleaner looking in the shadow regions. Motion was also smoother than Vudu HDX and Netflix—overall, quite an impressive performance.'

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1478616/house-of-cards-blu-ray-vs-amazon-vs-netflix-vs-vudu

In my experience Amazon streaming had previously been sub 3 Mbps - rats I had just moved from a Roku 2 to ATV3 (which doesn't have an Amazon player). It sounds like I may need to check out options for Amazon players again if more titles will get the 15Mbps streams.....

Hopefully it might encourage Netflix to allow more people to access the Super HD (or better) streams.......

It is probably not so good if Netflix's showcase original content looks better on Amazon vs Netflix.........
Edited by undecided - 6/24/13 at 11:31pm
post #2460 of 3052
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Amazon Prime has 5.1 sound for a number of things which don't have it on Netflix, The Hunger Games being another example. ).

The Hunger Games in the UK is in 5.1. A case of Netflix's regional licence variations for the same content I guess.
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