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post #31 of 103
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Originally Posted by SouthCali View Post

I was going over the specs published on Sony's website and I'm getting the impression that the CX150 is only capable of using 16gb class 4 sd cards. Were you able to use anything bigger or faster than that? Also, can you record directly to a sd card?

any size sdhc card that's at least a class 4 (i use a 32gb in mine)
post #32 of 103
So how is everyone liking this camcorder? I just picked one up at BB for $499, as they priced matched a local store in town. I currently own a Canon HV20 which I love, but just getting tired of tape etc.. Hopefully the image quality is on par with the Canon because if it is not, this is going back..
post #33 of 103
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OK I'm an idiot. I just hooked the camera up to the computer and will be uploading mts files directly from the camera to youtube and vimeo. Hopefully this works and I'll have some of my test vids for you guys.
post #34 of 103
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUvzt1XIvdo

Quick short video of the american flag flapping in the wind. I was standing in a shadow.
post #35 of 103
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWrjlMC2NgE

4-minute long video. It's not in HD yet for whatever reason so the quality is not representative.
post #36 of 103
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I have 3 video's awaiting processing on Vimeo. The video's should be fully live in the morning.
these should give you a decent idea of if this cam is right for you. I have hand tremors so it maybe shakier than normal

http://vimeo.com/playaj
post #37 of 103
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Video showing off the zoom capability
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdORRKoj_zE


There are more test video's on youtube of this cam now.
post #38 of 103
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Originally Posted by playaj View Post

Download one of my sample vids here
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YLG7QSR2

whats the extension for this file? it crashes oxygen avchd player & virtualdub and its not a rar

hmm guess thats a apple only format. i didnt just download a 44 second 520mb clip did i? post the mts file, not the mac file. it would be like 2 mb as a mts file
post #39 of 103
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Originally Posted by fishywishy View Post

whats the extension for this file? it crashes oxygen avchd player & virtualdub and its not a rar

hmm guess thats a apple only format. i didnt just download a 44 second 520mb clip did i? post the mts file, not the mac file. it would be like 2 mb as a mts file

Ok, I will post them in raw mts later on this evening.
post #40 of 103
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I spent a lot of time getting these video's uploaded and no one cares *Sigh
post #41 of 103
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I spent a lot of time getting these video's uploaded and no one cares *Sigh

Cheer up. I created a YouTube account on November 12th solely to post 3-5 videos taken with a CX500V to answer specific questions people mentioned. Then i posted a few more examples. Then I posted some Amtrak Capitol Limited clips because a CX500 example with one seemed mildly popular (and I mean mildly by anyone's standards). Then some of sugar gliders. And by then I was realizing I was a bit hooked on watchng the number of views go up, which I certainly didn't see coming. If there are people who are interested in the cam when it's new, you will get some hits. But you may want to start a thread here, even, with a simple message that says you have posted examples of [your cam and features here].

Other than that, you may post stuff for fun and will find the results puzzling and entertaining. From my first batch of uploads, it seemed clear that there was a group of people who liked clips of the Amtrak Capitol Limited at Harpers Ferry, WV. Far and away my most viewed clip. Additional clips from the past of the same subject were also "popular". I took some of the CL at Rockville Maryland (comparatively boring, I thought), and sure enough, low hits.

But now here are my most popular videos in order:

1. Christmas day - cold, snowy, I wanted to go film the Capitol Limited but it wasn't going to happen. I remembered that we had an Amtrak Superliner O gauge train set down in the basement, pulled it out, took some closeups of it and a few other model trains. Totally random activity, but the most viewed.

2. Snowstorm in Washington in December, pulled out the CX500V to show what it filmed in low light (night, snow falling, streetlights). Posted it, realized that the clear lens filter I used created a pale dancing green light in the video sometimes. Took a similar clip the next night, and edited the first one to say - hey, look at the second clip, much better example. The first clip with the dancing light is my second most viewed clip. The technically better clip is #12 with half the hits of #2. Have no clue why.

3. #3 isn't even three weeks old! Clip of the snowstorm on Feb 6th. Marginally interesting subject, I would have thought. Right up there.

4. Ah, finally, the Amtrak CL shows up in the list (always thought the first five winners would all be the CL). But it's a Rockville one, not Harpers Ferry! Huh? By now, the view count is a third lower than the first two clips.

5. Sugar gliders jumping around in slow motion. Makes sense to me that this would be watched a fair bit - it's decent quality and reasonably rare.

6. Another sugar glider one, much older, slowly slowly gaining ground. In this one, a glider goes nose to nose with a cat, they're fine until the cat moves his head fast and his ear runs into the glider. Scared 'em both.

7. Here's what I figured was the winning combination, finally. A CX500V example (filming at twilight), the Capitol Limited, and Harpers Ferry (scenery). It was robbed.

8. Another recent posting coming along pretty well - part of Epcot's Illuminations zoomed in on the big LED globe, HD is better quality than most of the Illuminations clips and few show the globe this zoomed in. I look at some of the Epcot fireworks clips with 15,000+ hits and I just don't understand it.

9. The second clip of sugar gliders jumping in slow motion, done about a week earlier than the first and with 20% fewer views. Maybe my technique improved between the two?

10. The main part of the Epcot fireworks show in HD and wide angle. I expected the globe clip to be more popular because it's unique. But I also expect this clip to catch up because it seems very good to me compared against most similar posted clips. Good HD rocks!

Trailing behind are clips of model train layouts (initially way up the list), actual steam train footage from Colorado, more sugar glider clips, more Capitol Limited clips, freight train clips (people like passenger trains more), soccer, and other random topics.

So have hope. Take some video, choose what you think is interesting, well done, unique, or something that specifically demonstrates your cam in ways people ask about. Guess what might be of interest to people and post it. Then sit back and become amazed that your junky little snow clip gets watched while your fascinating steam train clip gets ignored, and many other anomalies. People will teach you what they want to watch for free!
post #42 of 103
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Originally Posted by playaj View Post

I spent a lot of time getting these video's uploaded and no one cares *Sigh

I care. I found the videos to be very useful. Thanks.
post #43 of 103
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Just realized my indoor clip on Vimeo was private. I just made it public for all to see.
post #44 of 103
when you upload HD files to youtube it takes a while for them to be seen in HD
post #45 of 103
I just shot a hockey game with this unit so it should be interesting to see how it came out. So far what I see on the LCD screen looks great and sounds good, it was a college hockey game I was at so a lot of low level light.

So were are some good instructions on how to up load this puppy!
post #46 of 103
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Originally Posted by Garman View Post

I just shot a hockey game with this unit so it should be interesting to see how it came out. So far what I see on the LCD screen looks great and sounds good, it was a college hockey game I was at so a lot of low level light.

So were are some good instructions on how to up load this puppy!

Just connect the camera to the computer and upload directly to youtube from the camera.
post #47 of 103
Garman: I also shot a collge hockey game and uploaded to YouTube. I used the JVC HM400. So everyone can compare. The first part was shot behind the protective glass; the goal part was shot over the glass. 1080p, 60fps.

It's a short video, and please be sure to select 1080p.

The link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU95lNvgLQo
post #48 of 103
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Originally Posted by markr041 View Post

Garman: I also shot a collge hockey game and uploaded to YouTube. I used the JVC HM400. So everyone can compare. The first part was shot behind the protective glass; the goal part was shot over the glass. 1080p, 60fps.

It's a short video, and please be sure to select 1080p.

The link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU95lNvgLQo

Great shots, my were in a much darker situation and it turned out well. iMove works great with the new Sony CX150, better that I thought. It download the 60min file in under 10min. Now the video is still a tad better with my Canon HV20 but the AVCHD have gotten a ton better.

playaj: Thanks for the info, will try it this week.
post #49 of 103
Here you go, first time using the camera so rookie jitter bug going on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-1D-LsoElY
post #50 of 103
Garman: Looks promising, but it's not HD! Can you give us the HD version to better see the quality?
post #51 of 103
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Originally Posted by playaj View Post

Just realized my indoor clip on Vimeo was private. I just made it public for all to see.

thanks for the indoor. do you have any samples that have lower light indoor?
i.e. nighttime with room lighting?

thanks,
md
post #52 of 103
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Originally Posted by MDubbelboer View Post

thanks for the indoor. do you have any samples that have lower light indoor?
i.e. nighttime with room lighting?

thanks,
md

Here you go buddy. Ignore me in my pajama pants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVIldww0ZqA
post #53 of 103
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Originally Posted by markr041 View Post

Garman: Looks promising, but it's not HD! Can you give us the HD version to better see the quality?

Noobie to Youtube, I tried to download in HD and YouTube keeps on kicking it to 480p.

Right from YouTubes web site, very interesting as it wasn't giving me any options for 720p or 1080p

"YouTube recently began offering users an option to view content in high definition- 1080p resolution (when the source upload supports it). Please note, we are currently experimenting with this feature and optimizing it accordingly, so we can't guarantee that your videos will always be transcoded into this format with this user option present."
post #54 of 103
What were the properties of the file you were uploading? bit-rate, resolution, extension, frame rate?

There is no set of resolution options on upload. YouTube converts what you upload; if it is 1080p, then the viewer gets the options of 1080p and lower resolutions.
post #55 of 103
Which one is better?

How is the software on the HDR 150 i no that the Canons software is crappy just trying to decide which one to choose. Have you guys created any DVD yet or are you just uploading videos to the interet. The sony can you record movies to the hard or the SD and what class is required to use. I know the canon requires a Class 4. Also does the the sony record as AVCHD,

Thanks
post #56 of 103
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Originally Posted by dirtrider261 View Post

Which one is better?

How is the software on the HDR 150 i no that the Canons software is crappy just trying to decide which one to choose. Have you guys created any DVD yet or are you just uploading videos to the interet. The sony can you record movies to the hard or the SD and what class is required to use. I know the canon requires a Class 4. Also does the the sony record as AVCHD,

Thanks

crappy, it can be done, class 4, avchd in hd or mpeg2 in sd
post #57 of 103
so what one is better? I will be using it to record my hunts and my motocross races. i want one that is user friendly good in low light conditions and easy to put my videos to dvds. I believe these two cameras have the same picture quality. i also want to try editing no anything special.

Thanks
post #58 of 103
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Originally Posted by dirtrider261 View Post

so what one is better? I will be using it to record my hunts and my motocross races. i want one that is user friendly good in low light conditions and easy to put my videos to dvds. I believe these two cameras have the same picture quality. i also want to try editing no anything special.

Thanks

The sony is smaller, lighter and better in low light, and is probably better with the anti shake. The Canon is going to have better optics but the SOny is no slouch.

I have no experience with the Canon.
post #59 of 103
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Originally Posted by playaj View Post

Here you go buddy. Ignore me in my pajama pants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVIldww0ZqA

thank you. sony owes you a commission.
post #60 of 103
FYI, I saw a HDR-CX150 in a Sam's club in east TN for $499.00.
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