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post #31 of 68
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

Mopar_Mudder.

Thanks for the info. In regards to the construction, so you cut each fiber to length one by one and then they attach to that black "coupler" (non-technical term)?

How are they held together?

Their is a big rubber bushing kind of deal that comes with the cool sky. I left all my fibers a little bit long and then bundled them together and taped them to start with. Slide them through the rubber bushing, if you don't have enough fibers to get a snug fit when going though the bushing you can just stuff in some extra short pieces of cut off fibers to fill it in tight. (make shure you slide the nut over the fiber before the bushing!) When you tighten the nut to the Cool Sky it squezzes down on the rubber bushing to tighen it all up.

Now tape everything together out side the bushing so that nothing can slide. Take a hot knife and cut the whole bindle of figer off about 1/2" past the bushing I think I did. Now if you want to get the most light through it take and rough sand the cut of boundle with some 220 sand paper and then wet sand it with something like 1200 grit. Just set the sand paper on a board and rub the fiber bundle on it.

One thing I do have to change. When I did all of my .05 fiber I kind of did it in sections and made individual bundles that I made one big boundle out of. So I have I think 6 little bundles into 1. Well this works fine except you get a little bit of pattern when they twinkle. You can see the section because they are all bundled. I have to brake all of them up and mix the fibers around so they are more of a random mix.
post #32 of 68
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

Their is a big rubber bushing kind of deal that comes with the cool sky. I left all my fibers a little bit long and then bundled them together and taped them to start with. Slide them through the rubber bushing, if you don't have enough fibers to get a snug fit when going though the bushing you can just stuff in some extra short pieces of cut off fibers to fill it in tight. (make shure you slide the nut over the fiber before the bushing!) When you tighten the nut to the Cool Sky it squezzes down on the rubber bushing to tighen it all up.

Now tape everything together out side the bushing so that nothing can slide. Take a hot knife and cut the whole bindle of figer off about 1/2" past the bushing I think I did. Now if you want to get the most light through it take and rough sand the cut of boundle with some 220 sand paper and then wet sand it with something like 1200 grit. Just set the sand paper on a board and rub the fiber bundle on it.

One thing I do have to change. When I did all of my .05 fiber I kind of did it in sections and made individual bundles that I made one big boundle out of. So I have I think 6 little bundles into 1. Well this works fine except you get a little bit of pattern when they twinkle. You can see the section because they are all bundled. I have to brake all of them up and mix the fibers around so they are more of a random mix.

Great info. Thanks for explaining the process.
post #33 of 68
I know its too late now but for anyone wanting to do this you might want to consider stretch velvet from jo-annes. I used it on my screen wall and was able to stretch it almost 8 feet so you could avoid the seam!

Neil
post #34 of 68
heffneil,

Does it stretch 8' from 54"?
post #35 of 68
That was my findings!

Thanks!

Neil
post #36 of 68
That is really cool. Good job. You might also try incorporating EL Wire around the edge or to have some off-lighting effect. Also, you may be able to purchase an inverter that will allow you to create a pattern effect so you can select which "stars" twinkle.
post #37 of 68
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Originally Posted by heffneil View Post

I know its too late now but for anyone wanting to do this you might want to consider stretch velvet from jo-annes. I used it on my screen wall and was able to stretch it almost 8 feet so you could avoid the seam!

Neil

Is this what you are referring to?
http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog/p...DID=xprd768914
post #38 of 68
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Originally Posted by Frank M. View Post

That is really cool. Good job. You might also try incorporating EL Wire around the edge or to have some off-lighting effect. Also, you may be able to purchase an inverter that will allow you to create a pattern effect so you can select which "stars" twinkle.


I am going do blue LED rope light all the way around the main soffit. Not planning anything where the star ceiling is. I want the effect that you are actaully looking up through a hole in the ceiling and I am afraid any rope type lighting will take away from that. Actually we are kind of at a stand still right now because of this. We have a real deep dark red picked out for the soffits, problem is that it only comes in a satin finsih. We the stars reflect off from this satin paint really killing the effect to me. Just can't to seem to get the same red color in a flat finish.
post #39 of 68
nice job!
post #40 of 68
What a great ideal. Thanks for sharing. You give us something to strive for.
post #41 of 68
how much does a ceiling like this cost?

how long before it breaks or burns out? life expectancy?
post #42 of 68
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The only thing to really go wrong is if the illuminater would burn out, they can be replaced easy. Being that they are LED light they should last a long time. As far as the fiber goes, well I suppose that it is possible for it to discolor and loose some of its light transmission over the years, but I doubt I will see it in my life time.

I posted about what mine cost earlier in the thread
post #43 of 68
nice work man
post #44 of 68
and thanks for da links
post #45 of 68
Hi Mopar_Mudder,
Looked at your photo's. Did you just use the open ceiling to reach over and connect the rafters to the star Ceiling?

Looking for a solution for my project.

Thanks
post #46 of 68
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Originally Posted by PTHowe View Post

Hi Mopar_Mudder,
Looked at your photo's. Did you just use the open ceiling to reach over and connect the rafters to the star Ceiling?

Looking for a solution for my project.

Thanks

Thats exactly what I did yes. Plus I could screw through the outside of octagon walls into the frame work of the star panel.

More pictures of the slow build here that might help http://greenerslumber.com/customers/greener/
post #47 of 68
not done yet
post #48 of 68
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Originally Posted by elmalloc View Post

not done yet

GRRRRRR......Funny guy

Might start on the screen wall and suspended ceiling this week end
post #49 of 68
superior, do or do not there is no try
post #50 of 68
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superior, do or do not there is no try

Yes Master Yoda
post #51 of 68
enjoyed reading this thread... going to do somthing like this for sure myself.
post #52 of 68
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

enjoyed reading this thread... going to do somthing like this for sure myself.

Mopar, as they used to say back in the day, "Wicked Awesome!!"
post #53 of 68
Mopar,

Couple of questions :

1) How did you secure each strand on the back side? Hot glue each one?

2) Would it be possible to change the color of just a few strands by "dabbing" some sort of paint (translucent?) or even marker the end of the fiber strand sticking out of the black velvet? Having a few reds, yellows, oranges mixed with the hundreds of whites (or blue'ish) would look even more realistic?????

Thanks!
post #54 of 68
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Originally Posted by rms8 View Post

Mopar,

Couple of questions :

1) How did you secure each strand on the back side? Hot glue each one?

2) Would it be possible to change the color of just a few strands by "dabbing" some sort of paint (translucent?) or even marker the end of the fiber strand sticking out of the black velvet? Having a few reds, yellows, oranges mixed with the hundreds of whites (or blue'ish) would look even more realistic?????

Thanks!

I used a 1 minute epoxy, fast and easy. With hot glue you have to be carefull not to melt the strand. I got the epoxy that is self mixing and it has a long noose on the end that make it great to reach into the fiber.

You should beable to color some strands like that yes. I think you might want to try and do it on the other end of the cable though where your light source is. You would have to do some testing. Or run a seperate color illumintor for the strand you want colored.

Here are some new pictures now that I got the plastic pulled off and the theater done.


post #55 of 68
What pattern did you follow placing the stars in the field ? Sorry if I missed that above...
post #56 of 68
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Originally Posted by HDGTX View Post

What pattern did you follow placing the stars in the field ? Sorry if I missed that above...

I had a pattern I got online somewhere and they I added in some extra because I thought it needed a little more fill in and then added some constilations that were not in the original patter. To it is not a true pattern of the night sky anymore but it is based off one.
post #57 of 68
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

I had a pattern I got online somewhere and they I added in some extra because I thought it needed a little more fill in and then added some constilations that were not in the original patter. To it is not a true pattern of the night sky anymore but it is based off one.

I never cared for their original pattern. Ia gree with you it certainly needs more to it for it to look more lifelike despite it being a replica of what is currently in the sky
post #58 of 68
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Mudder View Post

I hope to MAYBE have the .5mm fiber all run tonight and do the .75 & 1mm this week end. May get it put up into place this week end if all goes right. Won't have the illuminators until next week though. Also going to wrap it in plastic when I put it up until the rest of the build is done, so it might ba awhile before I get a complete picture of it. But I will eventually.

beautiful home theater
post #59 of 68
Mopar,

Do you have a build thread?

What is that motorized contraption you have behind the screen?
post #60 of 68
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