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Thanks - at the moment, that's not possible - I don't have another HDMI based computer.

What are the video issues? Right now, everything is playing fine with TMT3 (haven't installed the beta yet) and send multichannel PCM.

Thanks

If TrueHD is not working then there's a problem with the EDID override. I checked the .inf I sent you and the audio block is OK, so check that the override is actually installed (Device Manager-> Monitors (expand). Did you reboot after applying the override?

After applying any of the available Denon overrides check that you have all refresh rates available on CCC. See also that you don't lose detection by the ATI driver when switching sources or powering on/off proj. a/o denon. Or check that color depth is not affected.

Are these potential problems only after the EDID patch? If so, at this point, maybe I'll just stick with PCM until ATI get's their act together...

thanks

Yes, they are. OTH install/uninstall of the overriden monitor driver is very easy with no further effects, but yes, if you don't want to mess with it in any way better wait for ATI. They were supposed to fix this issue for January or February driver releases (CAT 10.1 or 10.2) but so far as 10.2 beta RC2 the fix is not there.

Thanks - as an aside, would a DVI to HDMI connection work to get the EDID info?

Thanks

No. The problem is the 5xxx card specifically.

NO, I mean I have DVI on another card on another computer...would that work?

Ah, yes, that would work.

So do I hook directly up to the projector and directly up to the AVP-A1 separately and run that software?

Thanks

Well, the doggone thing seems to now work for TrueHD. I verified the override was installed and previously did reboot but rebooted one more time. Still nothing. Went into FFDshow audio, verified all formats set to pass-through and flipped the TrueHD decoder to disabled, hit apply, play movie >> still no change. Flipped TrueHD back to libavcodec, hit apply, play movie and finally TrueHD lit up on the AVR and there be sound!
Really bizarre and makes no sense to me but it's working now. Perhaps some bug with FFDshow.
Now shall attempt playback using WMP.

Thanks again!

Yes.

Only with Realtek the 3rd option HD pass-through appears in PDVD9 audio setup, but no HD sound (mute). I don't know how to config MPC-HC + ffdshow, it doesn't load blu ray anyway. I've trying Quantum of Solace and Terminator Salvation blu-ray discs (DTS-HD MA 48/24). It`s a nightmare to make that lion (Metro) roar in DTS-HD!...
No success with AnyDVD HD too. I'll wait for a possible solution in ATI driver update.
Thank you very much for your help, Tulli.

If TrueHD is not working in PDVD9, but working fine in MPC-HC+ffdshow, would an override make any difference at all? (Onkyo 605, Radeon 5670) I have yet to try any.

Just thought id contribute on my findings.
I have a denon 789 which I think is pretty much a 1909 in other countries.

Anyway I have a 5770, and I find with the edid override bitstreaming is fine in PDVD and TMT3.

I have recently updated to these 8.703 drivers and have found I can bitstream DTSHD in TMT3 without the edid override, however TrueHD still doesn't work without the override.

So it looks like ATi are making progress, but I just can't believe how this can be so difficult for them too get right!

Recently picked up A Sapphire 5770 1GB (the default one) and am very, very pleased with its performance as opposed to my old 4850 (was ridiculously loud and didn't look anywhere near as sharp).

I'm having some issues with the audio though.

When I installed the 10.1 CCC Suite I could only set the HDMI output in playback devices to stereo speakers and my only options for settings for audio quality were 32/16, 44.1/16, and 48/16.

I added the Realtek Drivers (2.39) and that improved the playback settings. I could now set my speakers to Quadrophonic, 5.1, and 7.1 as well and could set the quality to 32/16, 44.1/16, 48/16, 88.2/16, 96/16, 44.1/24, 48/24, and 96/24.

With the release of the new TMT3 Beta, I went back to the ATI Drivers as others were saying that, with the .170 Beta, TMT3 was automatically switching channels and converting to LPCM without any loss in quality.

When I attempted to watch 300 (original Japanese Blu-Ray release), I could only run the lower-res audio. If I attempted to run the LPCM or Dolby-TrueHD tracks, it would begin to stutter and eventually crash. At one point I also got a bombesque high-pitched shriek from the system. The output was only stereo.

Here is my system:

• Intel DG45ID
• Intel Q6600 (SLACR Revision)
• 4GB A DATA DD2 800 SDRAM
• Windows 7 RC 64-Bit (still searching for a well-priced Ultimate 64 here)
• AnyDVD HD
• Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 (no frills version)
• Denon A7100 Pre/Pro
• Panasonic TH-AE500 Projector

If there is any potentially relevant info that I have left out, let me know and I'll add it. I skimmed through the thread for a similar issue, but didn't see anything, but as I was going through a lot of information quickly, it's quite possible I missed something.

At this point I have reinstalled the Realtek drivers and reset TMT3 to mix the TrueHD/DTS HD-MA/LPCM tracks to DTS for the sake of simplicity of playback, but if it is possible to keep this thing set to stereo and have TMT3 processing the TrueHD and DTS HD-MA tracks and outputting full res LPCM, then I would immensely prefer it.

Andy;

Realtek 242 test results (242 over Ati 10.1 drivers)

DVBViewer never gives any audio output and video stream corrupts without WASAPI exclusive.
It gives audio output with ReClock on WASAPI exclusive mode.

7/64
Denon override by tulli
10.1 Ati drivers+ Realtek 242
Denon 1910

Thanks rica!

Am switching to the updated Realtek drivers. Will play with the EDID when I have time.

Is the EDID for the "Generic PNP Monitor" what was limiting me to stereo?

No difference.

I'm not using DVBViewer. At this point I can't even seem to get a reliable TV connection (old building).

My problem has to do with the Configuration and Properties settings under Playback Devices in Windows 7 RC. With the 10.1 Drivers I'm limited in Configuration to stereo only and my quality options under Properties are limited to 32/16, 44.1/16, and 48/16). I believe this is what's causing my playback problems with the ATI HDMI drivers under TMT3.

With the Realtek drivers I get all the Configuration and Properties options back (except for 192/16 and 192/24 if the 5770 supports those), but according to the thread in the Arcsoft Forum, the bitstreaming and LPCM options in the recently released .170 TMT3 Beta are only compatible with the ATI driver and do not work with the Realtek drivers (2.39, 2.42, etc.).

I haven't read this anywhere else, and we are well beyond the point where anyone who was using the Win 7 RC should have replaced it with the retail version, so I wonder if my difficulties are due to the fact that I'm still using Win 7 RC. Maybe it's as simple as the ATI Drivers or the new TMT3 Beta being written for the retail version and not the release candidate, and that's why it isn't working properly. Seems unlikely, but I'm not seeing anything anywhere else of anyone being limited to 2-channel audio by the ATI HDMI driver.

I hope to be able to get a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Edition soon, but haven't had too much luck tracking it down from a retailer over here I feel comfortable buying it from. Once I do, I plan on doing a clean reinstall and I can check to see if I have this problem with the ATI drivers then.

Maybe before then Arcsoft will have updated the .170 Beta to work with the Realtek drivers and I'll be able to give that a run.

In the meantime the only way I can get more than stereo out of this card is to use the Realtek drivers.

Edit:

It is worth mentioning that the Denon A7100 is an HDMI 1.1 Preamp/Processor, so it does not decode TrueHD and DTS HD-MA. My interest in getting the TMT3 .170 BETA working is that it supposedly supports non-downsampled LPCM output via the Xonar and 5XXX series cards. Some posters have also claimed that it changes the number of channels as well. If I can achieve that without having to configure Reclock to do so, then that would make the 5770 the best purchase I've made on this PC since AnyDVD HD.

Actually, I'm not thinking straight...my HTPC is connected to a 4x4 HDMI/Twisted Pair matrix switch (by Intelix) - so the sources are shared out to (and simultaneously up to) any of four zones, each with different displays and/or AVR's.

This is all working quite well right now - with this scenario, can I not even attempt this custom EDID workaround, or would I read the EDID information connected directly to the Intelix matrix switch itself? To the 5760 card, it never shows any change or difference in the options regardless of which zone is on or off.

Thanks

Chupacabra,
You're getting same audio from 5770 as 4500 IGP ?

Tulli,

Can you do me a big favour and do a mod for my Samsung PS50P96 and Onkyo 876 please?

thank you James

 

Samsung & Onkyo.zip 2.337890625k . file

Tulli, can u help me with a mod for my Sony 46v5500 and H/K 355? thx

 

moninfo_avr355-sony46v5500.zip 6.1806640625k . file

Hi Tulli

First of all a BIG THANK YOU for all your support and knowledge that you are sharing.

My setup consists of an HTPC running W7 64bit, a Sapphire ATI HD5570 HMDI, a Pioneer Plasma TV (LX5090H) and a Denon 2808 amp

I have too many problems currently with this setup. I would greatly appreciate it if you could please create the combined EDID inf file in case it resolves some of my audio problems. I am attaching the individual .inf files but I am not 100% sure if they were extracted correctly since the Real-Time option in moninfo was no present when the corresponding (TV only & TV+AMP) were connected. The real-time option did came up when I had connected the Samsung VGA monitor so I am not sure what is the problem with the real-time. The moninfo version is 2.43.0.822

Thanks so much for all your help

 

Pioneer+Denon.zip 1.931640625k . file

Of course the connections

• Proj--[switch]--(capturing) PC, and
  
• Denon--[switch]--(capturing) PC

are required.

The captures are useless (128-byte only), but look on the overides list for any mod of type

Plasma TV + DENON AVR

It should work fine for your setup.