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post #2551 of 2707
Media Center will send whatever you have your HDMI audio setup for in the Audio control panel. If you have it set for 5.1 surround, Media Center will send multi-channel LPCM. No extra codecs or programs needed.

I can't confirm that this works with a 5000-series card, but it works with my onboard Intel X4500HD. I don't use it because I lose 90% of the features of my receiver with LPCM, but it is possible.
post #2552 of 2707
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Originally Posted by spivonious View Post
Media Center will send whatever you have your HDMI audio setup for in the Audio control panel. If you have it set for 5.1 surround, Media Center will send multi-channel LPCM. No extra codecs or programs needed.

I can't confirm that this works with a 5000-series card, but it works with my onboard Intel X4500HD. I don't use it because I lose 90% of the features of my receiver with LPCM, but it is possible.
Wouldn't this effect my audio pass through for all my other audio streams?
post #2553 of 2707
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artslinger View Post
Wouldn't this effect my audio pass through for all my other audio streams?
Yes, it causes Windows to decode any bitstreams before passing them out of the PC. But without setting your HDMI audio up this way, Windows will tell any non-bitstreamed audio that you only have two speakers, and your receiver will only see a stereo signal.
post #2554 of 2707
What drivers are people using that are stable? Frontpage of this post hasn't been updated for a while. Tried the latest two: 11.5, 11.5a hotfix, and am having nothing but problems with them causing various crashes.
post #2555 of 2707
I'm using 11.5a with no issues on my main HTPC. I haven't done much with it except pure video related stuff since I installed them, though. I've experienced no crashes in any of my players or video editing software.
post #2556 of 2707
Thanks for the quick reply. I just put a 5670 in my system, having nothing but problems with it and sleep mode. Different recent drivers have caused different crashes during sleep. The crash was different for each of the last 3 driver versions (also tried using the realtek drivers) so I am sure it is the drivers. Maybe something specific to my system however. Very frustrating since it happens during sleep (typically overnight), so difficult to troubleshoot.
post #2557 of 2707
I don't ever let my machines go into sleep mode so I can't help you with that.
post #2558 of 2707
Sleep mode is critical to me on my win 7 x64 based htpc. I have a 5850.

I'm currently using v11.2 catalyst drivers with no issues except occaisionally on resume my desktop clock or weather gadget is placed near the middle of the desktop vs it's original place in the upper right for whatever reason. I suspect the video driver, but it could be a windows bug I suppose, haven't looked into it seriously yet since it's a minor annoyance.

Sleep mode rules, no way I'd go without it and I've NEVER missed a recording, a point typically raised when the subject is mentioned by those who DON'T use it on their htpc.

There have definitely been sleep/resume issues in the past with catalyst drivers and from what I'm hearing about v11.5+ it sounds like ATI may have ****ed this up once again.

There would need to be a compelling reason for me to move from catalyst 11.2 to 11.5+
post #2559 of 2707
Thread Starter 
My sleep thing is good on my laptop, but with desktops, which I always built myself, there can be trouble coming from all directions. Windows 7 has managed this much better in my experience, but for instance I've had trouble for years now with a G35 mobo that no driver/software update can fix. My 5770 hasn't given me much trouble as far as I can tell. When sleep works, i.e. the mobo doesn't fail (most of the time, but not acceptably reliable) there are no problems with other hardware, including various graphics cards I've tried using Win 7 (5770, GTX460, 4550, 4670).
post #2560 of 2707
I had no problems with sleep until the 5670 went in to replace a nvidia 8600gt that was on its last legs (plus actually get bitstreamed audio in more than stereo). Thing was rock solid stable, sleep mode worked perfectly, rebooted the thing once a month at most just for fun. Will try the 11.2 drivers, but otherwise will look into picking something else up. I am pretty sure that after the last crash missed Bones finale, my wife would have killed me if it wasn't online later...so I need to look out for my safety.
post #2561 of 2707
Missing 23hz option?

Any suggestions on why I can't see the 23hz option in CCC (running 11.4 drivers) on a 5670 in Win7. 24hz is there but even with the xml edit trick in the first post to create a 23hz option my TV is still running at 24.000hz according to reclock.
post #2562 of 2707
Thread Starter 
Try without ReClock, and something like MadVR. When using madVR press ctrl+J to see the stats. There are a couple of reasons why ReClock would report 24 instead of 23.
post #2563 of 2707
I updated my CCC drivers over the weekend to 11.5 but i'm now having a few issues with my HD5670 in a Win7 32bit machine.
First up, there was no audio device detected at all (using HDMI out direct to AVR), so i installed the Realtek Driver R2.60. This got my 5.1 HD audio output again but i'm not sure that the settings are sticking, as it lost the audio device again after bootup.

Q. Do we still need to use Realtek Drivers and if so, do i need to uninstall the ATI ones and how? Which version of Realtek should we be using?

Another problem which i've had before and can't remember how i fixed it...
After a re-boot, as soon as the Windows splash screen comes on, the sides of the display start closing in. It eventually gets to no picture when both sides meet in the middle and then defaults back to some weird res of 50x100 or something without any scaling which makes it impossible to change the res settings or anything as most of the desktop is off the screen.

Anyone else had this weirdness?
post #2564 of 2707
hey guys,
frustration hit the all time high here!

got a new pc,
AMD Athlon II X4 635 AM3
MB AMD 770+SB710
4G RAM
ATI Radeon HD5670, 512MB GDDR5

connected to Philips 37PFL8404 TV via HDMI1.3

occasionally, the output shows wrong, pseudoinverse colors.
if i unplug and plug back, colors are right.
if i leave it for a bit, it switches back to normal color by itself!

nothing wrong with my TV, had ati radeon xt9600 for two years running on that tv through HDMI; also i have IPTV box on it using HDMI, no problems ever!

i tried the following:
1.brought the pc back to the shop i bought it from,
they changed every single component(including MB; ram, another 5670 vcard). no help.
2. tried with different cables (most expensive). no luck.
3. tried with other (new) TVs in the shop, color problem doesn't happen.
4. my TV is 1.3 HDMI compliant
5. tried original-CD driver, and all versions up to 11.5 catalyst.

note: i disabled hdmi audio device, as i'm using creative card for sound output

i would appreciate any help and suggestions!

thanks
regards from croatia!
LL
LL
post #2565 of 2707
can someone more familiar in the thread point me to some help for a issue with my ati 5550.... After watching a DTS HD mkv ( which works fine) afterwards If I play something else I just get a BUZZING noise or White noise ( as best I can describe) I have to reboot my PC then everything works fine. I use MPC-HC to play my content. Sometimes when I start the movie it will also play in double speed or something like that with no sound... but a reboot fixes everything...
post #2566 of 2707
Thread Starter 
Are you using the Realtek driver and/or ReClock?
post #2567 of 2707
i'm using ati's catalyst drivers..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy o View Post

Are you using the Realtek driver and/or ReClock?
post #2568 of 2707
I'm not impressed.

I have always used Nvidia graphics cards in my regular desktop but stuck with ATi low profile cards in my HTPC.
The little HD 3470 I had was nice (but worked best with the driver disk that it came with, I found that updating to the then latest drivers caused it to go nuts stretching the screen size beyond my LCD TVs size.....although in the properties it always claimed to be set correctly @ 1920 x 1080).
Maybe I should have taken that as a warning?

I recently moved to a low profile 5670 which seemed to offer everything I needed (esp offering genuine HD audio & a nice single HDMI connection to my Onkyo 875).
It looked to be the most powerful low profile card out there and @ a nice price.

It took an age to get the HD audio working, messing around with drivers and such like.
Now I find that everytime I do anything on the HTPC (something as mundane & ordinary as clicking the mouse to open Outlook Express for instance) the machine looses its 'lock' to the Onkyo & gives me a blank screen for a few seconds before the image returns.
The PC is doing the work I ask it to ok but the image output is almost always lost for a few seconds.

Yes it is something I can put up with, I can play films properly all the way through without (I'm presuming HDMI handshake issues) but it is so annoying.

The card has impressive specs but ATi's drivers blow, terribly.

I know it's a bit late in the day to realise this and I agree its no help saying so but the contrast to the Nvidia 1gb GTX460 I also installed recently to my desktop is so bad.
The Nvidia just works, like every Nvidia card I have owned (and I have had several) it always has done and doesn't need me to mess around for an age reading up on stupid work-arounds to do what it promised.

Hopefully AMD will sort out this lottery, it's one thing to appear to be competitive with your main rival it's quite another to sell cards which are such a PITA to your buying customers.

.....or maybe someone knows of an equivalent low profile card from Nvidia that would just work properly without the messing around the ATi one seems to demand?
post #2569 of 2707
Anybody that saw bugs* with catalyst v11.5x try the v11.6 and see improvements?

I'm particularly interested in resume from sleep issues.

I'm using 11.2 with Win 7 64bit and have no major problems.

*
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post20555987
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post20563399
post #2570 of 2707
I just got a new TV and i am finally trying to get 24p output working and having weird issues.

Radeon 5750
Win7 x64

For some reason all my frequencies are being reported to ReClock and/or MPC-HC as exactly 97.68% of what i expect them to be.

If I set my output to 1080p 23hz for 23.976, i get 23.42hz reported in MPC-HC standalone or MPC-HC + reclock

If I set my output to 1080p 60hz, i get 58.61hz reported in MPC-HC standalone or MPC-HC + reclock

This has been happening with the 11.5b and 11.6 catalyst drivers with a full removal before install using driversweeper.

Its driving me crazy because frames are dropping all over the place. Im not sure if the card is really outputting these frequencies or just misreporting them to the OS/software. Every once in a while it will lock on exactly to my desired frequency and i will think i have it fixed. when i try again the next day though, its back at 97.68% of where it should be, with nothing i can think of has changed

Is there a version of drivers i should try before just giving up, or any other tweaks?
post #2571 of 2707
Thread Starter 
Might be your display. I'm getting near-perfect rates with a 5770 and a Pioneer KRP-500M, and has been like that with the other ATI cards I have (4670 and 4550). ATI are the best of the three, with Nvidia second (I got 23.973 out of the box) and Intel still can't do 23p.

But in any case, ReClock's purpose is exactly to fix this. What are you using it for?
post #2572 of 2707
Ive tried reclock set to auto, it never seems to be able to lock onto anything and makes everything play veeeery slowly

i was originally using reclock with it set to force original speed just to enable wasapi output of LPCM tracks encoded to flac inside mkv files

Im still learning how all these things interact, so could the TV influence the freq via the EDID info? right now i am using an EDID override b/c my onkyo 805 doesnt seem to play nicely with bitstreaming from powerdvd

I will try connecting straight to the TV w/ HDMI and using no edid override to see how that changes things

I dont think its the display, but who knows. its a samsung 2011 plasma (PN59d7000) hopefully it can hold the right freqs
post #2573 of 2707
Does anyone use both DVI and HDMI ports on 5450? I'm going to separate connections to TV and AVR coz my AVR works horrible with 50, 60Hz.
post #2574 of 2707
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qaq View Post

Does anyone use both DVI and HDMI ports on 5450? I'm going to separate connections to TV and AVR coz my AVR works horrible with 50, 60Hz.

I have when they first came out. Hdmi to AVR/Vizio, dvi to desktop - worked fine.
post #2575 of 2707
Quote:
Originally Posted by Davinleeds View Post

I have when they first came out. Hdmi to AVR/Vizio, dvi to desktop - worked fine.

Thanks for response. Did you use 'proper' ATI DVI to desktop adaptor/cable or some usual one?
post #2576 of 2707
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by varkeast View Post

Ive tried reclock set to auto, it never seems to be able to lock onto anything and makes everything play veeeery slowly

i was originally using reclock with it set to force original speed just to enable wasapi output of LPCM tracks encoded to flac inside mkv files

Im still learning how all these things interact, so could the TV influence the freq via the EDID info? right now i am using an EDID override b/c my onkyo 805 doesnt seem to play nicely with bitstreaming from powerdvd

I will try connecting straight to the TV w/ HDMI and using no edid override to see how that changes things

I dont think its the display, but who knows. its a samsung 2011 plasma (PN59d7000) hopefully it can hold the right freqs

can you post screenshots of your ReClock settings, including the screen that comes up when you click on the system tray icon when playing?
post #2577 of 2707
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy o View Post

can you post screenshots of your ReClock settings, including the screen that comes up when you click on the system tray icon when playing?

Andy o, thanks for trying to help me out. This is frustrating me to no end

All the video tab settings are set to automatic (preferred) and the defaults








also i have tried various different ways to get 23.976 to lock on correctly, to no avail. I removed all edid overrides, connected the PC to the TV directly using HDMI, also tried using DVI-HDMI. Tried using EDID files for different TVs from the override thread. Everything still resulted in 23.42 hz (and 58.61 for 60hz)
post #2578 of 2707
Thread Starter 
In the advanced settings tab of ReClock there is a "clean-up video clock timings database", that could help with the frame rate detection, but if it's also happening without ReClock, then that's likely not your problem. Maybe you can post at the Slysoft forums, in the ReClock section.
post #2579 of 2707
My solution?
Nvidia 430.
No more problems.
post #2580 of 2707
Really? Is that because NVidia doesn't suffer from the silent stream bug? (They do.) Or because they output 24p content properly? (They don't, in fact, ATI is closer in some cases.)
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