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Toshiba LCD TV 2010 Line-up

post #1 of 54
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I noticed there isn't any info regarding Toshiba's 2010 line-up, feel free to add content here for those of us who like this brand. So far I'm liking the specs on the new models and wouldn't mind owning one when they become available.
post #2 of 54
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I like the new cell tv for it's sheer versatility and features, plus the design looks superb. For 2010 Toshiba has two major series; the genesis (premium model) and the illusion.

Sizes are as follows:

Toshiba ZX900 Genesis series:




* Toshiba Genesis 65ZX900: 65-inch, price TBD, availability September 2010
* Toshiba Genesis 55ZX900: 55-inch, price TBD, availability September 2010


Features are:



* Fast Cell TV processor
* Full array LED backlight with local dimming
* 3D compatible
* 2D to 3D conversion system
* 480Hz refresh rate
* Built-in 1TB hard disk
* Built-in Blu-ray player
* 802.11 Wi-Fi capability
* Video phone capability
* Interactive capability with possible content partners including Netflix, Vudu, CinemaNow and Pandora
* Wireless transmission between TV and base station
* Detachable sound bar
* RF remote control

Toshiba Illusion series (model number TBD):

* 62-inch, price TBD, availability "2010"
* 55-inch, price TBD, availability "2010"
* 46-inch, price TBD, availability "2010"
post #3 of 54
Thread Starter 
The ZX900 uses the new KIRA2 Panel while the models for the illusion series will incorporate the panel from the current S670U models thus making them cost significantly less than the ZX900 series.



http://ces.cnet.com/8301-31045_1-10426789-269.html
post #4 of 54
Some questions:
What is "Cell TV"? Does it mean local diming LED backlit LCDS with a large number of cells or what?
Does 3D compatible mean that it the will accept 1080p/48 3D content from 3D Blu-Ray 3D players when they are available this year?
Is the sound bar shown removable so it can be mounted separatly if desired?
post #5 of 54
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CELL TV is More Than Just a TV;
CELL Broadband Engine Now Positioned to Power the Future of Home Entertainment


CES, LAS VEGAS - JANUARY 6, 2010- Toshiba America Consumer Products, L.L.C. ("Toshiba"), a market leader in LCD TVs, announced today that the company has developed groundbreaking home entertainment technology and is introducing the ZX900 Series CELL TV into the U.S. market. The state-of-the-art CELL TV will provide consumers with a new level of home entertainment experience. The focal demonstration of Toshiba's 2010 CES exhibit, CELL TV will be available in the U.S later this year.

At the heart of the CELL TV is the CELL Broadband Engine, designed for superior multimedia processing and previously used in advanced PCs and high-end gaming consoles. By incorporating the CELL Engine into CELL TV, Toshiba has designed an unparalleled TV with an exciting array of advanced features that were previously unthinkable.

"Creating a TV around the CELL Engine has removed previous limitations and allowed Toshiba to create an ultra-premium TV that is also an easy to use home entertainment server," said Scott Ramirez, VP TV Marketing for Toshiba America Consumer Products. "By combining the CELL Engine with the new KIRA2 LED panel technology, Toshiba engineers have developed all-new levels of stunning performance and comprehensive functionality. CELL TV provides more brightness, more contrast, more detail, more 3D, more robust connectivity, and more fun than anything we have ever created. CELL TV is the new gold standard."


CELL MAKES EVERYTHING BETTER

The heart of CELL TV is the powerful CELL Engine which has 143 times the processing power available in current TV models. This massive power manifests itself in incredibly enhanced picture quality that is certainly the new state-of-the-art. True Super Resolution Technology ensures precise image accuracy by sampling multiple frames and restoring the native pre-sampling signal curve. This process enhances both SD and HD signals for the clearest possible 1080p Full HD picture. Net Resolution+ adds Compression Noise Canceling to significantly enhance Internet content. This system detects noise compression inherent in low resolution internet content and separates and corrects the image data to produce sharper, cleaner internet images, even on super large screens. In addition, AutoView RGB combines an ambient light sensor, and a new RGB sensor, to automatically set the brightness, contrast, gamma, sharpness, color saturation, and now color temperature, to ensure the best possible picture in any lighting condition. CELL TV also boasts ClearScan 480Hz Frame Rate, for a clear, crisp picture for fast motion video.


TOSHIBA INTRODUCES SUPER LOCAL DIMMING LED

For the flagship ZX900 Series, Toshiba combined the power of the CELL processor with its new KIRA2 Super Local Dimming LED Display. KIRA2 is positioned as "Twice as Bright!" as it has an amazing 1,000 cd/m2 brightness. In addition, KIRA2 also has 512 controllable zones (5X that of previous local dimming models) for precise control over black levels. This allows the KIRA2 to create an unmatched 9M: 1 Dynamic Contrast, creating the ultimate picture quality package.


WATCH EVERYTHING IN 3D

CELL TV has true 3D TV capability, and much more. For native 3D content, CELL TV utilizes a Frame Sequential System that changes from 240Hz in 2D mode, to 120Hz for the right eye and 120Hz for the left eye in 3D` mode. This system accepts multiple 3D input formats, including MPEG4-MVC, RealD, and more. However, when true 3D content isn't available, CELL TV has the solution. TriVector 2D to 3D Conversion takes any 2D content and converts it into 3D in real time. This means that with CELL TV you can "Watch Everything in 3D!" including 2D sports, movies, TV shows, video games, and more. 3D TV creates a more immersive home theater experience, and CELL TV's TriVector 2D to 3D Technology significantly expands the amount of time you can enjoy 3D, truly setting itself apart.


GET READY TO BE SERVED

Going beyond the realm of television, CELL TV is also a high-end Home Entertainment Server. With a built-in 1TB HDD, BD Player, and 802.11n Wi-Fi® capability, CELL TV can store your favorite media content (video, music, pictures, etc.), and then display it, or transmit it to other compatible DLNA displays in your home. Content can be downloaded from the Internet, transferred from your PC, or recorded directly onto the HDD from the BD Player. With CELL TV you have unprecedented access to your content, all of the time, virtually anywhere in your home.

GET CONNECTED

CELL TV offers a robust set of advanced connectivity options including an Ethernet Port with DLNA, 802.11nWi-Fi, and Wireless HD. The Ethernet Port enables a wired connection to the Internet or home network, while 802.11n enables connection to the Internet or other rooms through a wireless router. In addition, Wireless HD allows the CELL Set-Top Box to connect to the display without running any wires to the wall.

Net TV capability will provide a wide list of Internet "Channels", providing almost limitless options for additional content. Key targeted content partners include Netflix®, VUDU, CinemaNow®, Pandora®, and many more. High value content can be streamed, or in some cases downloaded to the HDD for purchase.

Taking connectivity to another level, CELL TV also includes new Video Phone capability. This Home Video Conferencing over IP allows you to see and hear people with compatible devices, adding a whole new dimension to social networking. By combining this with Net Resolution+, Cell TV can provide clear images, even on super large screens.

The CELL XV900 Series is the first CELL TV Series, and will be available in large 55" and 65" (diagonal) screen sizes. This two piece system features a sleek Set-top Box, and a display in the new Genesis Design with a black brushed aluminum bezel with acrylic trim.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/t...-cell-tvs-for/
post #6 of 54
the CELL processor is the same processor used in the PS3, its very powerful and it should be interesting to see what Toshiba makes happen on the TV's that will use it

I read somewhere that Toshiba is working on using that processors power to dynamically make 2D movies 3D on a TV without the need for a 3D movie or BD player and yeah i just now noticed that the post above mine states this functionality
post #7 of 54
I'm just happy there will be another 65" LCD on the market - pickins is mighty slim above 60 inches.
post #8 of 54
Toshiba's 2010 line-up is awesome. I love it.
post #9 of 54
Neat, looks like Tosh is finally going all out. This is gonna be expensive but I like it.
post #10 of 54
Wow...that Genesis Line looks like the shiznitz...think they'll price the 65-incher under $3K???
post #11 of 54
Who makes the Cell processor chip? Is it one of Nvidia's or ATI's Parallel processing graphics chips?
post #12 of 54
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Originally Posted by MitsuDude View Post

Wow...that Genesis Line looks like the shiznitz...think they'll price the 65-incher under $3K???

I seem to remember an initial blurp coming out of CES on the cell processor Toshiba...it was about 3x that.
post #13 of 54
TOSHIBA priced the 55inch CELL REGZA (ZX900) around 1 million yen in Japan and only 3K USD in the US ? I don't think that is going to happen.
post #14 of 54
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Originally Posted by walford View Post

Who makes the Cell processor chip? Is it one of Nvidia's or ATI's Parallel processing graphics chips?

The CELL processor was developed by SCE (Sony computer entertainment) , Toshiba and IBM.

I'm not sure but I think most of the CELL processors are manufactured by Toshiba.
post #15 of 54
The one thing I remember when I saw the blurp was thinking, wow that's more than a 60" Kuro...I hope I'm wrong.
post #16 of 54
Processor thru Tosh as well!!(Sony&IBM partners only)

For Genesis serie;
But I'm wonder that who produce this "KIRA2" Module(panel)???
or what type/variant such as Samsung S_PVA or Sharp/AUO,etc.,
it doesn't seems like LGD's IPS Module!!

For Illusion serie;
Type/mfg of Module unknown!! also Tosh never give any info
of their Module mfgs!!!

At least for me the most important point is Module!

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Well I love it too CELL_TV but I'll love it more if the prices
comes atractive as well!

Bye++
post #17 of 54
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Originally Posted by albani View Post

Processor thru Tosh as well!!(Sony&IBM partners only)

For Genesis serie;
But I'm wonder that who produce this "KIRA2" Module(panel)???
or what type/variant such as Samsung S_PVA or Sharp/AUO,etc.,
it doesn't seems like LGD's IPS Module!!

For Illusion serie;
Type/mfg of Module unknown!! also Tosh never give any info
of their Module mfgs!!!

At least for me the most important point is Module!

++
Well I love it too CELL_TV but I'll love it more if the prices
comes atractive as well!

Bye++

My best guess at the provider of the substrate would be AUO as they've announced the future release of a 65" 3D LED and a Ultra Wide 21:9 panel. Just a Guess though as it's one way to get large glass that won't break the bank and Toshiba is having profit problems and exiting Professional Presentation LCD Display business - they are remaining in the Consumer LCD's though. However, Toshiba may very well have an option to rebadge Sharp substrates also even thouigh their flagship will become a 68" they have capacity at other plants that have produced 65" glass. Plenty of time for guesses as we are in that waiting Lull after every CES.

AUO 65-inch LED-backlit 4K2K panel

AU Optronics (AUO) is showcasing a 65-inch LED-backlit TV panel at the FPD International 2009, held in Yokohama Japan, from October 28-30, 2009.

The 65-inch LED-backlit TV panel features 4K2K (4000x2000) high resolution, and consumes 50% less power on average, the maker said. The thickness of this module is only 7.9mm and the contrast ratio is more than 2,000,000:1.

AUO has adopted the pre-mixed "LED Light Cell" with 256 zones for local dimming.

post #18 of 54
I think "KIRA2" is the name of the backlingt system , not the name of the LCD panel.
post #19 of 54
From the following link it appears that IBM is manufacturing the CELL processor chips in a New York plant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)
post #20 of 54
I'm starting to save my $$$ for one of these unit. (Probably need a lot of $$$). I'd be much happier if one could get a 73-75 inch model though.
post #21 of 54
Thx westa+

Thats it what I want to hear

Thererefore AUO coming very hard!!!
Just follow AUO!!

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Now lets say 65" Module AUO/Taiwan

So 55"????(seems does not AUO and though CMO/Taiwan or Samy S_PVA!!!)

When we see 46"/55"/62" for Illısion serie Modules should be thru different suppliers as well!!!

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Still 46"/55" is "secret"!!

Bye++
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Looks good. Hope they do away with the oval stands for the LED's over here.
post #24 of 54
Has any detailed specs been released? I'd be curious if/how one could run ATI's Eyefinity solutions with the monitor.
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post #26 of 54
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Originally Posted by ecgz88 View Post

That Black was so impressive

http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/s...08_341375.html

only 10CM thick

http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/img/av.../dg05.jpg.html

Is there an English translation of that page? I tried Google translate but didn't get anything at all.

Thx
post #27 of 54
So do any of these have the PS3's CELL CPU Processor because Toshiba said they were going to use it do do alot of the math and processing, for their HDTV's. And it looked impressive.
post #28 of 54
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Originally Posted by dhvsfan View Post

Is there an English translation of that page? I tried Google translate but didn't get anything at all.

Thx

Follow link for translated page : http://translate.google.com/translat...ml&sl=ja&tl=en
post #29 of 54
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Originally Posted by pelico View Post

Follow link for translated page : http://translate.google.com/translat...ml&sl=ja&tl=en

Tried this link at work. Google translation just hangs. I let it run for 1/2 hour with no result. Is there another translator? Or is IE configured wrong?

Also, does the Cell TV have an alternative to the wireless interface? I'd like a wired interface. You can't believe the RF noise in my neighborhood. There are at least 5 Wi-Fi networks and who knows what else. I went through 2 sets of portable phones before I found a 5 Ghz unit that mostly works. Sometimes, though, I still get interference and they don't work

To be more specific, I'd want to make sure that this feature "Wireless HD allows the CELL Set-Top Box to connect to the display without running any wires to the wall." can be done in wired mode.
post #30 of 54
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold View Post

So do any of these have the PS3's CELL CPU Processor because Toshiba said they were going to use it do do alot of the math and processing, for their HDTV's. And it looked impressive.

One of the previous postings had a link to Tosh 2010 models including the CELL HDTV.

The CELL Processor used in the TV's are not likely to be the same as used in the PS3. Most modern processors are processor families. Each model has a different feature set and even different instructions. For example, IBM's Power Processor line is like this.
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