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post #3361 of 3783
I was reading about the ps3 24fps and my ps3 is set to auto for most of my films
Hooked up to the ae4000u I'm not sure if it's outputing it in that rate as some scenes I do see
Motion blur.
I know panny has some mode to smooth image motion but not sure how it compares to or works with the ps3"s 24fps setting

i use frame creation mode 3 and it seems fine in that way less motion blur
post #3362 of 3783
Okay guy's I want to ask a quick question. Given what you know about how your Panny camcorder performs, would you buy again at the prices I listed below or would you spend a few more bucks on the Sony ?

The HDC-HS700's are just over 900$, the HDC-TM700 is around 750$ and the Sony HDR-CX550V is coming in right around 1K but would have to purchase another battery 75$ (3900mAH).

I just need it for kids soccer games, birthday parties, travel, school plays, etc.. The more I read the more it makes my brain bleed. Thanks for the suggestions.
post #3363 of 3783
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Originally Posted by Aahhyes68 View Post

....I just need it for kids soccer games, birthday parties, travel, school plays, etc.. The more I read the more it makes my brain bleed. Thanks for the suggestions.

Stop bleeding your brain to death!
Don't rely solely on all that you can read on the Internet.

Make sure about the return policy of the store you intend to buy from, first. Then, buy them both (TM700 and CX550V). Try them both in similar situations for a short while and see for yourself which one suits you best, and return the one you don't like as much, neatly re-packaged.

That's what I did a few months back, when I was hesitating between a Canon HF20 and the TM700.
post #3364 of 3783
Is there a way to change shutter speed to 1/30? I have tried every recording (60i) mode in manual and it seems shutter speed can only be increase. This makes very little sence and basically decrease cams low light ability.
post #3365 of 3783
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Originally Posted by bkhw77 View Post

Is there a way to change shutter speed to 1/30? I have tried every recording (60i) mode in manual and it seems shutter speed can only be increase. This makes very little sence and basically decrease cams low light ability.

You have to enable "Auto Slow SHTR". Read your instructions manual on page 72.
post #3366 of 3783
Here is the other one:
I did set up WMS (Windows 7) and can stream SD videos to PS3 with no issues, but no HD. WMP plays 1080i on PC perfectly fine, bit I can only see chunks streaming it.
My router is G. Should I replace router with N? Would this help? - wired network is out questions. Thanks.
post #3367 of 3783
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Originally Posted by alainhubert View Post

You have to enable "Auto Slow SHTR". Read your instructions manual on page 72.

Thanks - I guess I missed that part.
post #3368 of 3783
Bauji, tusi paresan na ho ji. TM700 le lo aur aish karo. Bilkul changa maal hai ji. Mere pass 6 mine se hai.

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Originally Posted by PunjabiM3 View Post

I am completely torn between the TM700 and the Canon S20. I purchased the S20 from Best Buy for around $70 less (including tax) than what I have seen the TM700 go for online. It seems quite apparant that the TM700 has the BEST video quality of any HD camcorder available for less than $1500 (my budget is $800). My largest concern has to do with recording the video from the TM700 (60p mode) to a DVD or blu-ray.
post #3369 of 3783
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Originally Posted by garbarsarbar View Post

Bauji, tusi paresan na ho ji. TM700 le lo aur aish karo. Bilkul changa maal hai ji. Mere pass 6 mine se hai.

Sacréfice! Di moé don, den kelle lengue ke cé sa? Moé ossi chu capab d'écrir tou croche!
post #3370 of 3783
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aahhyes68 View Post

Okay guy's I want to ask a quick question. Given what you know about how your Panny camcorder performs, would you buy again at the prices I listed below or would you spend a few more bucks on the Sony ?

The HDC-HS700's are just over 900$, the HDC-TM700 is around 750$ and the Sony HDR-CX550V is coming in right around 1K but would have to purchase another battery 75$ (3900mAH).

I just need it for kids soccer games, birthday parties, travel, school plays, etc.. The more I read the more it makes my brain bleed. Thanks for the suggestions.

Sony HDR-CX550V is not 1080p, in the other hand Panasonic 1080p camcorders have fan noise in the audio recording, bleed you brain a little bit more and decide which is important to you crisp picture or clean sound.
post #3371 of 3783
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Originally Posted by latreche34 View Post

Sony HDR-CX550V is not 1080p, in the other hand Panasonic 1080p camcorders have fan noise in the audio recording, bleed you brain a little bit more and decide which is important to you crisp picture or clean sound.

Many don't find the fan noise problematic, but if you do, a decent after-market mic or audio recording device like the Zoom H1 will do wonders for improving the audio. Nothing I'm aware of in the after-market can make non-1080p into the real thing.
post #3372 of 3783
This is about the TM700's fan noise. I recorded this clip when everyone(but me ) was already sleeping. I really have bad hearing. I cannot hear some high tones like alarm clock when I am in first floor and alarm clock is in second floor. The alarm clock I'm referring to are the speaker types. However, my wife can hear it in first floor.

I've put my laptop's volume to max so I'll be able to hear the TM700's fan noise being recorded. I can hear it but very very little. I had to put my ears close to the laptop to hear it. It's not really affecting me.

Since I have bad hearing, from this clip, what can you say about the volume of fan noise? http://www.neilcamara.com/strawberry.html
post #3373 of 3783
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Originally Posted by v1rtu0s1ty View Post

This is about the TM700's fan noise. I recorded this clip when everyone(but me ) was already sleeping. I really have bad hearing. I cannot hear some high tones like alarm clock when I am in first floor and alarm clock is in second floor. The alarm clock I'm referring to are the speaker types. However, my wife can hear it in first floor.

I've put my laptop's volume to max so I'll be able to hear the TM700's fan noise being recorded. I can hear it but very very little. I had to put my ears close to the laptop to hear it. It's not really affecting me.

Since I have bad hearing, from this clip, what can you say about the volume of fan noise? http://www.neilcamara.com/strawberry.html

Looks like everyone agrees that fan noise isn't really that bad on TM700.

So guys, purchase TM700s now!
post #3374 of 3783
Quote:
Originally Posted by v1rtu0s1ty View Post

This is about the TM700's fan noise. I recorded this clip when everyone(but me ) was already sleeping. I really have bad hearing. I cannot hear some high tones like alarm clock when I am in first floor and alarm clock is in second floor. The alarm clock I'm referring to are the speaker types. However, my wife can hear it in first floor.

I've put my laptop's volume to max so I'll be able to hear the TM700's fan noise being recorded. I can hear it but very very little. I had to put my ears close to the laptop to hear it. It's not really affecting me.

Since I have bad hearing, from this clip, what can you say about the volume of fan noise? http://www.neilcamara.com/strawberry.html

What lens did you use for macro in this video?
post #3375 of 3783
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Originally Posted by Shadowboricua View Post

What lens did you use for macro in this video?

Raynox macro lens.
post #3376 of 3783
Okay guy's I'm ready to pull the trigger on the Panny 700. Amazon just dropped the price of the HS700 to 796 shipped and the TM 700 is still 750 shipped.

I think buying the HS is a no-brainer, it's only 50 bux.. Any issues with the 240GB version I should know about ?


Thanks a bunch !
post #3377 of 3783
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aahhyes68 View Post

Okay guy's I'm ready to pull the trigger on the Panny 700. Amazon just dropped the price of the HS700 to 796 shipped and the TM 700 is still 750 shipped.

I think buying the HS is a no-brainer, it's only 50 bux.. Any issues with the 240GB version I should know about ?


Thanks a bunch !

battery life - as HDD takes more then Flash
and extra mechanical parts inside HDD that might fail, Flash has own limits as well
post #3378 of 3783
Hi everyone,

Sorry to hijack this thread. I haven't read the whole thread and I haven't seen a thread on Panasonic HDC-SD600 (which many say is a stripped down version of TM700). so if this question si already answered, please point me to that.

I would like to hear your opinion on the trade-off (feature to price) between 600K and TM-700 (amazon sells 600K for $399).
Also if i shoot at max (1080p/60fps) what class of SDHC card would I need.

Thanks.
post #3379 of 3783
so i'm realllly considering the HDC-HS700K now. I heard that if there's a lot of movement, the HD freezes up (naturally you don't want that thing spinning around while recording). so does that mean some shots will look like they are "skipping" ?

Bonus question: can you record to the SD and then in-camera move to the HD or even Copy to the HD?
post #3380 of 3783
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Originally Posted by arunrules View Post

Hi everyone,

Sorry to hijack this thread. I haven't read the whole thread and I haven't seen a thread on Panasonic HDC-SD600 (which many say is a stripped down version of TM700). so if this question si already answered, please point me to that.

I would like to hear your opinion on the trade-off (feature to price) between 600K and TM-700 (amazon sells 600K for $399).
Also if i shoot at max (1080p/60fps) what class of SDHC card would I need.

Thanks.

Yes, it's been answered a couple of times, but I don't know just where. The biggest differences are the lack of external mic jack and no viewfinder on the 600. For me, the external mic jack is a make or break deal. The viewfinder came in real handy when the sun angle made the LCD unreadable.

The minimum class SDHC specified is 4. Just avoid the Hong Kong SCAMs
post #3381 of 3783
This card has worked great in my TM-700
Lexar Professional 133x SDHC™ Card - 32GB Class 10

http://www.lexar.com/files/imagecach...C_Pro_32GB.png

I purchased it at BuyDig.com for about $100.00 / B&H Shows it for $85.00..A Great Deal for this Card! Offer ends on Jan. 16th.
Looks like they do not have it in stock though..you could check with them...Cheapest that I have Seen.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...tialSearch=yes

Bud B
post #3382 of 3783
i dont feel like searching through this whole thread, can someone host some 60p raw footage of some sports like soccer? many thx
post #3383 of 3783
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Originally Posted by fishywishy View Post

i dont feel like searching through this whole thread, can someone host some 60p raw footage of some sports like soccer? many thx

what are you looking for in the soccer game? the movement of players as to how the camera responds?

Saw this before: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=19304495
post #3384 of 3783
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Originally Posted by v1rtu0s1ty View Post

what are you looking for in the soccer game? the movement of players as to how the camera responds?

Saw this before: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=19304495

i want some up close type sports, where the subject and the camera are moving. also i want the mts file to see if i can play/edit it
post #3385 of 3783
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Originally Posted by fishywishy View Post

i want some up close type sports, where the subject and the camera are moving. also i want the mts file to see if i can play/edit it

What do you expect to see? 60p looks the same as 60i on a TV.
post #3386 of 3783
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

What do you expect to see? 60p looks the same as 60i on a TV.

who said it was for a tv?
post #3387 of 3783
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Originally Posted by fishywishy View Post

who said it was for a tv?

60p looks like "bobbed" 60i on a progressive-scan device. 60p with every other frame taken out looks like 60i deinterlaced with "single field", which is 30p. So I repeat my question: what exactly do you expect to see? If you want to see sports in 60p then turn on ESPN or ABC or Fox. There nothing magical about 1080p60 except for higher resolution and less trouble during editing and rendering.
post #3388 of 3783
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

60p looks like "bobbed" 60i on a progressive-scan device. 60p with every other frame taken out looks like 60i deinterlaced with "single field", which is 30p. So I repeat my question: what exactly do you expect to see? If you want to see sports in 60p then turn on ESPN or ABC or Fox. There nothing magical about 1080p60 except for higher resolution and less trouble during editing and rendering.

im flabbergasted youre having trouble understanding this

1. i want to see if my editor can handle it

2. i want to see how it handles re-encoding for web friendly viewing
post #3389 of 3783
fishywishy,

You can press the 60p button on your TM700. You can download the native .mts file directly from your camera via usb.
post #3390 of 3783
Quote:
Originally Posted by v1rtu0s1ty View Post

fishywishy,

You can press the 60p button on your TM700. You can download the native .mts file directly from your camera via usb.

why didnt i think of that?
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