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post #61 of 115
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Originally Posted by theVatansever View Post

you'll also need some glue if yours die and yep, mine middle drives have metal center...it feels so thick when you hit with your fingers.

They're plastic phase plugs.
post #62 of 115
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

They're plastic phase plugs.

are you talking about center of mid driver of s606 ?
post #63 of 115
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Originally Posted by theVatansever View Post

are you talking about center of mid driver of s606 ?

Yes. They look/feel solid enough to be metal but they are plastic. Remember, looks can be deceiving.
post #64 of 115
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

Yes. They look/feel solid enough to be metal but they are plastic. Remember, looks can be deceiving.

no way man, it's metal...at least mines are metal no way to be plastic
post #65 of 115
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Originally Posted by theVatansever View Post

no way man, it's metal...at least mines are metal no way to be plastic

Yup. Plastic dude. Sorry to rain on your parade but it is what it is.
post #66 of 115
I dont know if i believe that, i guess they could always simulate millwork but it sure looks like aluminum to me. I know mine are plastic they have that painted look. His looks to have ridges like from spinning on a lathe

None the less his appear to have been rocked you can see the wear marks on the center. That dark band where the cone has moved WAY out a few times.

I wonder if you rub your finger over that dark band if it will leave a metal powder on your finger? or a dark streak?


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post #67 of 115
P-L-A-S-T-I-C. But if you insist I will accept the word nylon in place of plastic. Regardless, it is not metal.
post #68 of 115
I'm guessing that the s606 will fall apart over a short period of time due to its cheapness.
post #69 of 115
All this analysis and dissecting and you're going to talk yourselves into hating your speakers even though they sound very good.
post #70 of 115
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All this analysis and dissecting and you're going to talk yourselves into hating your speakers even though they sound very good.

Not me, im happy with what i got and what i paid.
post #71 of 115
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

P-L-A-S-T-I-C. But if you insist I will accept the word nylon in place of plastic. Regardless, it is not metal.

no way....that sh.t is absolutely aluminium....
btw, i'm happy with sound i got, but feel less safe anymore, i feel like anytime speakers can die
post #72 of 115
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Originally Posted by theVatansever View Post

ok mate, tomorrow i may post lots of photos... just wait a little

thanks man!!! I will be looking forward for the pics.
post #73 of 115
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Originally Posted by swifty7 View Post

thanks man!!! I will be looking forward for the pics.

Me too, open your window and let in some good lighting so you can post some good ones like i did.

I didnt realize the S606 has a woofer on the sides also, yours are way better then mine.
post #74 of 115
Im still finding it hard to believe that the S6xx series uses plastic plugs. Why would they manufacture 2 different plugs? If they are both plastic why make one look different?

Now if one is metal and one is plastic, the sound would change and so would the cost.

My 2 center speakers look identical the inside drivers look the same, the center plug just looks better made then the S500 center that came with the 506 package.

This does look liek plastic, it sounds like plastic when you tap the plug also.


But this one has a more tinny sound, it is a higher pitch when you tap it.


Different view


Are they the same drivers?


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post #75 of 115
Most likely they are the same driver, just one is shielded and one is not. I don't understand why one sounds 'tinny' though. The plug should be solid regardless of the material. As such it should make the same 'thud' noise when tapped upon.
post #76 of 115
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

Most likely they are the same driver, just one is shielded and one is not. I don't understand why one sounds 'tinny' though. The plug should be solid regardless of the material. As such it should make the same 'thud' noise when tapped upon.

What do you mean one is shielded and one isnt? i have posted 2 different center speakers with similar drivers. The black cabnet is the S500 with the plastic looking center plug. The other is the S60 that appears to me to be some kind of metal plug. If its plastic it has a metal coating or somthing.

When i tap on the plug with my finger and a screw driver i hear a different ringing tone, more tin sounding on the S60 it also feels more dence and rigid.

Some time ill A/B them so far thats all i really see thats different.
post #77 of 115
Thread Starter 
hi folks, sorry, couldnt open the cabinet but today i bought a pair of cheap car tweeters, 5$ for pair, including filters...opened them and what i got....
very similar magnet structure of s606's tweeter... magnets are also have equal power with s606s...
a dude said this structure is an advanced bla bla bla ....
post #78 of 115
So I was right all along. That's what they are. pathetic.
post #79 of 115
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Originally Posted by TjMV3 View Post

So I was right all along. That's what they are. pathetic.

yep
post #80 of 115
And others believe that Jamo would ignore the expense of decent tweeters, yet pay more for solid metal/aluminum phase plugs.
post #81 of 115
I have been watching this thread develop for a little while now. I will grant that the tweeters don't seem to be built very well but keep this in perspective. They are not very expensive speakers.

Take a look at what very good tweeters cost and it will be shocking. For some examples, the Scan-Speak Revelators are $200.00 a piece, Dynaudio D-28s are $200.00 each, the Dynaudio customs in my Dyn 1.3SEs (no model #) runs $380.00 ea. Seas, Morel and Focal also make some very good but expensive tweeters (and woofers). At one time. for example, Definitive Technology sourced their drivers from Vifa (when they were still made in Denmark). My old BP10s had such drivers and sold for the same amount as it did when they switched to Chinese sourced drivers.

I feel for your conundrum. You put 6 bills into speakers that did not meet your expectations of quality. You have other things to consider though, including the quality and power of your amplification. Underpowering speakers blow them far, far more often than overpowering them. I am powering my mini-monitors with a 400 wpc Krell and have never had a problem and they will produce more, better, and deeper bass than many a floorstander.

Quality does not come without a price but you can find great deals on Audiogon on some fantastic used speakers and electronics and unless funds are unlimited I believe that's the only way to go. I cannot vouch for anything that Jamo does but I do know that Dynaudio makes all of their own drivers in Denmark with no outsourcing. They cost a bit more but only you can answer the question of value. Is the extra outlay of cash worth it to you? It was for me.

Best of wishes.
post #82 of 115
You cant go by the cost though, i mean seriously look at bose, people think they are quality because of the cost. We all know they use cheap drivers so just because the speakers are more then jamos dont mean they are better.

The magnets now days are WAY better then they use to be in the past. A magnet doesnt have to be really huge to be a powerful magnet and the size of it really doesnt mean much either.

Like i said before though, i think its just a fluke, i think he just got a bad one and once he replaces it i dont think he will have any more problems with them. He may because what i pointed out in anotehr image he posted they look like they have been seriously rocked hard so he may or may not continue to have problems.

I still think that these are above average speakers for their price.
post #83 of 115
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Originally Posted by theVatansever View Post

hi folks, sorry, couldnt open the cabinet but today i bought a pair of cheap car tweeters, 5$ for pair, including filters...opened them and what i got....
very similar magnet structure of s606's tweeter... magnets are also have equal power with s606s...
a dude said this structure is an advanced bla bla bla ....

Can you post an image fo the front? also where did you get these? ide like to buy some, i like how these sound
post #84 of 115
Thread Starter 
but this little magnet structure comes with a weakness,,,power...yes they're really very weak comparing to my 10 years old bx100 speaker's tweeters..their magnet was extremely powerfull that i had to keep screwdriver away from their magnet...but these little magnets barely hold very little screws...

these are Boschmann, they had a nice cabinet but i cracked'em to assemble in jamo's cabinet... titanium dome, it says.....200w peak...91db
post #85 of 115
Thread Starter 
forgot to say...forget highs, even my mids come to alive...it touches mid levels ver nicely,, mids are much audible now....excellent sound
post #86 of 115
You better be careful running off speakers you dont nuke the crossover, it could short and take your amp with it.

If its playing more midrange it may be crossed over wrong for that tweeter. Also if its a car tweeter the impedance is probobly wrong as well.

What did the case of those tweeters look like? I searched Boschmann tweeters on e-bay and there isnt any listed.

Did the case the tweeters came in look like a motorcycle headlight?
post #87 of 115
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Originally Posted by BowerR64 View Post

You better be careful running off speakers you dont nuke the crossover, it could short and take your amp with it.

If its playing more midrange it may be crossed over wrong for that tweeter. Also if its a car tweeter the impedance is probobly wrong as well.

What did the case of those tweeters look like? I searched Boschmann tweeters on e-bay and there isnt any listed.

Did the case the tweeters came in look like a motorcycle headlight?

didnt encounter any problem so far,,, forced'em alot with loud music,,, no problem...

this is the tweeter..


BOSCHMANN MM-6 2.5CM NEODYMIUM SOFT DOME TWEETER
* 2.5cm Neodymıum Soft Dome Tweeters
* Freq. Resp: 3,000Hz-30, 000Hz
* Sensitivity: 93db/w*m (SPL)
* Nominal impedance: 4 ohms
* Continuous Power Input: 60watts rms
* Peak Power Output: 200watts
post #88 of 115
Is chrome all they come in? Are you going to ditch teh stock jamo tweeters for these? I figured if i get somthign similar and use the same crossover componets i could get a similar tweeter sound.

Do you have an ohm meter? what do the stock jamo tweeters measure? are they 4 or 8 ohms?
post #89 of 115
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BowerR64 View Post

Is chrome all they come in? Are you going to ditch teh stock jamo tweeters for these? I figured if i get somthign similar and use the same crossover componets i could get a similar tweeter sound.

Do you have an ohm meter? what do the stock jamo tweeters measure? are they 4 or 8 ohms?

jamo's tweeter are 8ohm, but this one is 3.8ohm,,, measured with multimeter...you dont need to ditch anything if you can crack the cabinet of boschmanns,,, then simple tweeter is almost same size with jamo, just glued inside of jamo's shiny plate,,,and they're sounding better...
post #90 of 115
What about this jamo tweeter from parts express?

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-900

There is a few different jamo replacement tweeters they have. These all look alot beefier but the power ratings are all about the same.

http://www.parts-express.com/wizards...TOKEN=86961603

The JAMO 20134 1" Soft Dome Tweeter look similar to what the E680 uses. The JAMO 20300 1-1/8" Soft Dome Tweeter looks like you could take it apart and remove teh driver from that plate and attach it to the S606 front panel thing. if the 1-1/8" would fit? not sure what size they actualy are?

Are you just using your S606 as stereo speakers? or are you using them with a center speaker also? ide think using the jamo drivers would get you a better match to the rest of them unless you dont really care? Maybe you just want somthing that rocks and gets loud?
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