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post #661 of 691
Ok, so after connecting the board in all the proper places, I put the shield back on in front of the audio board, but not the whole back of the television, because I wanted to test it first. I tested it, and it turned on fine, with the option of having pure mode. Success! Great. But then, after I reassembled everything as carefully as I could, I tried turning it on, and nothing. When I say nothing, I mean even when I plug the television in, there isn't even a red light. I tried taking the back off again and checked the cables to make sure they're ok. There's still absolutely no power, or so it seems. Any ideas? I haven't disconnected and reconnected everything--that's my next move.
post #662 of 691
I'm kind of freaking out now. I honestly don't think the modified board has anything to do with the problem, though, of course, I could be wrong. I think maybe I knocked something out of place (and this could be wishful thinking). Any idea as to what might cause the "no power at all" problem? Visually, I don't find any evidence of any kind of major problem.
post #663 of 691
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Originally Posted by HTNUT1975 View Post

I'm kind of freaking out now. I honestly don't think the modified board has anything to do with the problem, though, of course, I could be wrong. I think maybe I knocked something out of place (and this could be wishful thinking). Any idea as to what might cause the "no power at all" problem? Visually, I don't find any evidence of any kind of major problem.

Make sure you have the main power switch pushed in. Other than that you need to check all of the connections you made or if you knocked something loose such as the wires on the noise filter where the power cord plugs in.
post #664 of 691
It was the power switch. I have been up all night, even wondering if I might have accidentally permanently damaged the panel, because I used an electric drill (on very low setting) to unscrew a lot of the outside screws. HOWEVER, I'm currently getting an SD05 error and the TV shuts off. I'm not for sure if the cause is my bad soldering or if it is because I don't have everything tightened up in there.
post #665 of 691
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Originally Posted by HTNUT1975 View Post

It was the power switch. I have been up all night, even wondering if I might have accidentally
permanently damaged the panel, because I used an electric drill (on very low setting) to unscrew a lot of the outside screws. HOWEVER, I'm currently getting an SD05 error and the TV shuts off. I'm not for sure if the cause is my bad soldering or if it is because I don't have everything tightened up in there.
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Originally Posted by HTNUT1975 View Post

It was the power switch. I have been up all night, even wondering if I might have accidentally permanently damaged the panel, because I used an electric drill (on very low setting) to unscrew a lot of the outside screws. HOWEVER, I'm currently getting an SD05 error and the TV shuts off. I'm not for sure if the cause is my bad soldering or if it is because I don't have everything tightened up in there.
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Originally Posted by HTNUT1975 View Post

It was the power switch. I have been up all night, even wondering if I might have accidentally permanently damaged the panel, because I used an electric drill (on very low setting) to unscrew a lot of the outside screws. HOWEVER, I'm currently getting an SD05 error and the TV shuts off. I'm not for sure if the cause is my bad soldering or if it is because I don't have everything tightened up in there.

Unplug all of the connections that you disconnected during the swap. Then reconnect them & when inserting the ribbon cables make sure they are straight & push them in all of the way while holding them snap down the latches. Try this & report back.
post #666 of 691
Hey Jano,

I finally fell asleep and am back at it. I'm going to painstakingly go through the process again, then re-install the first shield that covers the circuit board in question. As noted earlier in this thread (bottom of page 22), I originally had success, so my hope is my modification took and this SD05 problem isn't that circuit board. Here's the board with the mod in question:



However, I feel like my "mod" was luck. I had the hardest time soldering that tiny bread crumb on to it. I don't feel like the solder I bought (60/40 .033) is what actually made the resistor "take." While attempting to solder it properly, there was a clear liquid that formed around the area, and I assume that was leftover flux from the heated solder. My success came when I pinned that resister down in place with tweezers and touched one end of it with the soldering iron. Along with the clear liquid, it stuck on and seemingly did so properly, but this wasn't the result of my soldering both sides evenly with solder. It seems like, rather, the pads on the board, along with the formed liquid and connectors on the resister itself, bonded together with the resister. So I'm not positive I even did this right. Does that process sound about right? I'll get back to you on the process.
post #667 of 691
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Originally Posted by HTNUT1975 View Post

Hey Jano,
I finally fell asleep and am back at it. I'm going to painstakingly go through the process again, then re-install the first shield that covers the circuit board in question. As noted earlier in this thread (bottom of page 22), I originally had success, so my hope is my modification took and this SD05 problem isn't that circuit board. Here's the board with the mod in question:

However, I feel like my "mod" was luck. I had the hardest time soldering that tiny bread crumb on to it. I don't feel like the solder I bought (60/40 .033) is what actually made the resistor "take." While attempting to solder it properly, there was a clear liquid that formed around the area, and I assume that was leftover flux from the heated solder. My success came when I pinned that resister down in place with tweezers and touched one end of it with the soldering iron. Along with the clear liquid, it stuck on and seemingly did so properly, but this wasn't the result of my soldering both sides evenly with solder. It seems like, rather, the pads on the board, along with the formed liquid and connectors on the resister itself, bonded together with the resister. So I'm not positive I even did this right. Does that process sound about right? I'll get back to you on the process.

Good luck! If you have problems I sell modded boards. PM me if you are interested.
post #668 of 691
Would an SD05 error occur because I don't have the television closed up? I've been testing it without the back on it. Also, the error will show every other power on. So, if I turn it off after the error, and then turn it back on, the error will not occur. When it does shut off, due to SD05, the blue light blinks 5 times.
post #669 of 691
Update: the SD05 error message goes away when I plug in the speakers. Weird, I haven't had them plugged in for a long while, until I "reassembled" the Kuro the first time through, yesterday.
post #670 of 691


i did it! I did it! Oh sweet victory! I win. The F'ing Gremlins lose!!! After thirty minutes on my hands and knees on the kitchen floor, with a magnifying glass, I found one lost resistor to give it one more go (I had taken the other off when doing trial and error), and it has been a success!!! The circuit board and resistor were remarkably more sturdy than I imagined.
post #671 of 691
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Originally Posted by HTNUT1975 View Post


i did it! I did it! Oh sweet victory! I win. The F'ing Gremlins lose!!! After thirty minutes on my hands and knees on the kitchen floor, with a magnifying glass, I found one lost resistor to give it one more go (I had taken the other off when doing trial and error), and it has been a success!!! The circuit board and resistor were remarkably more sturdy than I imagined.

Congrats!
post #672 of 691
For anyone still interested in this conversion, I have a limited amount of modified AWW1352 boards available for sale. Please PM me if you are interested.

Thank you,
Jan
post #673 of 691
If anyone is still interested in converting their Non-Elite into an Elite I have modified boards available for sale. Please PM me with pricing &/or any questions.

Thank you,
Jan
post #674 of 691
Anyone know where I can pick up this board brand new? I am looking to do this conversion but I can't find the board anywhere.
PM me!
Thanks!
post #675 of 691
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Originally Posted by audi911 View Post

Anyone know where I can pick up this board brand new? I am looking to do this conversion but I can't find the board anywhere.
PM me!
Thanks!

PM sent
post #676 of 691
OK replied.
Anyone know what the modified board does? Is it exactly the same as the 1353?
post #677 of 691
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Originally Posted by audi911 View Post

OK replied.
Anyone know what the modified board does? Is it exactly the same as the 1353?

I replied to your PM & this question.
post #678 of 691
OK so my next question is
Once having this board installed on the machine do I need to upgrade the firmware of the tv to the pro 111fd firmware?

Edit : It looks like it is the same firmware?

Double edit: It is the same firmware. Does anyone know what the actual firmware does? What does it give to the television?
I currently have software version 0904-0401 hardware version 0x351

I'm downloading the newest one 0907-0401 hardware version 0x351
Edited by audi911 - 8/17/13 at 6:08am
post #679 of 691
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Originally Posted by audi911 View Post

OK so my next question is
Once having this board installed on the machine do I need to upgrade the firmware of the tv to the pro 111fd firmware?

Edit : It looks like it is the same firmware?

Double edit: It is the same firmware. Does anyone know what the actual firmware does? What does it give to the television?
I currently have software version 0904-0401 hardware version 0x351

I'm downloading the newest one 0907-0401 hardware version 0x351

The only thing the firmware update affects is the OTA tuner. If you don't use it you aren't missing out on anything, otherwise it won't hurt anything. Let me know if you have any other questions about the swap or when you are ready to purchase a modified board. Have you had any luck finding an Elite board?
post #680 of 691
What does it do to the OTA tuner does it make it more powerful? Is it something that I will benefit from when I update it if I use the OTA Tuner?
post #681 of 691
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Originally Posted by audi911 View Post

What does it do to the OTA tuner does it make it more powerful? Is it something that I will benefit from when I update it if I use the OTA Tuner?

Yes, it's supposed to help the tuner in some way to receive channels.
post #682 of 691
This might be a long shot but does anyone have the actual release notes to the firmware upgrade?
post #683 of 691
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Originally Posted by audi911 View Post

This might be a long shot but does anyone have the actual release notes to the firmware upgrade?

The only notes are attached to the update instructions, here is the link.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Plasma/PDP-5020FD?tab=firmware
post #684 of 691
Ya I read that it says nothing about what the FW actually does heh.
post #685 of 691
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Originally Posted by audi911 View Post

Ya I read that it says nothing about what the FW actually does heh.


The search option of the forum here, can be your friend.


http://www.avsforum.com/t/1039269/the-official-pioneer-9g-elite-kuro-owners-discussion-thread/25770#post_20097218



"Spoke with the Pioneer rep. The new firmware is for tuner adjustment. Apparently the OTA tuner would lock up, and the previous firmware didn't completely resolve the issue, which necessitated the 03/01/11 firmware update."



There are a few reports that it also enabled the tru color option via it's HDMI inputs.
post #686 of 691
I'm looking for an elite board for my 6020. Any one out there able to help me out?
post #687 of 691
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Originally Posted by sledhead1 View Post

I'm looking for an elite board for my 6020. Any one out there able to help me out?

You might want to send a PM to Jano18. Not sure if he has any left, but he was the most recent one I know of to have the modded boards.
post #688 of 691
No word from Jano18. Anyone else have one or know where to get one?
post #689 of 691
the hippotechsolutions link is now dead, did anyone keep the directions and/or print them out? I'm sure i could swap my board without it but directions would be nice. For those wondering, i bought a board LOOOOOOOOOONG time ago, forgot about it and the wife found it and i want to swap it in my 5020.

Thanks
post #690 of 691
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Originally Posted by Jim_0068 View Post

the hippotechsolutions link is now dead, did anyone keep the directions and/or print them out? I'm sure i could swap my board without it but directions would be nice. For those wondering, i bought a board LOOOOOOOOOONG time ago, forgot about it and the wife found it and i want to swap it in my 5020.

Thanks

The PDF is still there in the original post's attachments in-case you missed it, I suggest getting the service manual for the 5020 (it's around a 16MBs PDF), that's what I used to disassemble my 5020FD and complete the e-lite mod, IIRC it's much more detailed than the instructions posted in the missing webpage. Only thing that I could think of that you should be careful of is the extra plug on the e-lite board compared to the original 5020FD, you have to drill a small hole in the back cover so it would fit properly.
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