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post #1651 of 3565
10/11/10 at 1:28pm
Ah. I didn't think it would since it does a DLL import of one of the ATI DLLs. Interestingly enough though, the overscan fix app actually read the information from NVidia cards if you had an ATI + NVidia setup.

You can try placing atiadlxx.dll in the same folder as getEDID and see if it works (copy it from a machine with the ATI drivers installed). I can't remember if you need the 32 bit or 64 bit version. On an x64 machine, the 32 bit dll is in Windows\\SysWow64 and the 64 bit version is in Windows\\System32.
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post #1652 of 3565
10/11/10 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by Libran View Post
Hi Tulli! Thanks for the useful topic! Could you please compile override inf for my Philips 46PFL4605 TV and Onkyo TX-SR508 receiver. I have some issue with video handshaking (lost image in some cases )
Ok, here you go ...

 

Philips 46PFL5605H - ONKYO TX-SR508.zip 1.2333984375k . file
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post #1653 of 3565
10/11/10 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

Ah. I didn't think it would since it does a DLL import of one of the ATI DLLs. Interestingly enough though, the overscan fix app actually read the information from NVidia cards if you had an ATI + NVidia setup.

You can try placing atiadlxx.dll in the same folder as getEDID and see if it works (copy it from a machine with the ATI drivers installed). I can't remember if you need the 32 bit or 64 bit version. On an x64 machine, the 32 bit dll is in Windows\\SysWow64 and the 64 bit version is in Windows\\System32.

I may try that later. I got the EDID info from my laptop which has a 3450 in it. I'm having a not so nice time with one particular issue. I just want to see if the EDID override makes any difference. Probably not, but, I want it for that machine anyway.
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post #1654 of 3565
10/11/10 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post
Tulli,

Here's the edid's captured from this machine using getEDID 1.2. Thanks!
Ok, Samuri, here's yours ...

 

Samsung TV - PIONEER VSX-820.zip 1.22265625k . file
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post #1655 of 3565
10/11/10 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

I may try that later. I got the EDID info from my laptop which has a 3450 in it. I'm having a not so nice time with one particular issue. I just want to see if the EDID override makes any difference. Probably not, but, I want it for that machine anyway.

I'd test the theory myself but I'd need an NVidia card to do it.
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post #1656 of 3565
10/11/10 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Ok, Samuri, here's yours ...

Thanks. Gonna give it a try now.
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post #1657 of 3565
10/11/10 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

I'd test the theory myself but I'd need an NVidia card to do it.

I'll get to it. Just relax. I got a lot of stuff going on right now and I BADLY need to fix this video issue I'm having before my WAF hits 0.
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post #1658 of 3565
10/11/10 at 1:57pm
I'm relaxed. I was just trying to get you to buy me an NVidia.
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post #1659 of 3565
10/11/10 at 2:02pm
Um, the driver won't install???? Winblows is telling me that Generic PnP is the best driver. WHAT?!
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post #1660 of 3565
10/11/10 at 2:04pm
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Don't install from folder but choose the "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer" option.
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post #1661 of 3565
10/11/10 at 2:05pm
Oh yes, that nonsense. Man it's been a while since I've had to do this. Yea, that installed. I'm rebooting it now and will check the results in a bit. Thanks for your help!
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post #1662 of 3565
10/11/10 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

I'm relaxed. I was just trying to get you to buy me an NVidia.

Keep dreaming. I'm about to install a deck to replace my 30 year old concrete steps, so, uh, I'm out of funds for the rest of the year. BOOOOOO!
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post #1663 of 3565
10/11/10 at 2:10pm
Can't blame a guy for trying.
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post #1664 of 3565
10/11/10 at 2:21pm
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Originally Posted by vladd View Post

Can't blame a guy for trying.

I'm about ready to just GIVE you this card, tbh. NOTHING is working on those videos. EDID or not.
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post #1665 of 3565
10/13/10 at 5:54am
I'm not 100% positive my issues are due to EDID. But after spending most of the weekend (probably the last warm weekend in the midwest ) trying all sorts of things, including trying some of the inf files on the first page, I would like to rule it out.

I am still stuck multich pcm. I can't even get just plain DTS to go to the receiver, so I don't know if I have something else going on. ffdshow says that it is sending SPDIF, I'm not sure if that should be saying something else.

I've got a 5450 512mb card in a geforce 8300 mobo, running ati's video and audio driver 10.9, I've tried the latest realtek as well with the same results.

Receiver is a Onkyo TX-SR607, video device is a Mitsubishi HC3800 projector. I haven't seen any postings of the HC3800. I did try the denon and hc5500, but that didn't work for me.

Tulli, I attached both the getEDID capture as well as the moninfo capture. If you can make a mod for me, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,
flips

 

SR607-HC3800.zip 5.24609375k . file
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post #1666 of 3565
10/13/10 at 6:30am
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I am still stuck multich pcm. I can't even get just plain DTS to go to the receiver, so I don't know if I have something else going on. ffdshow says that it is sending SPDIF, I'm not sure if that should be saying something else.

What software you are using to play content? Try MPC-HC with the latest ffdshow build. Also try passthrouh mode for DTS (and other format) in the settings of ffsdhow.
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post #1667 of 3565
10/13/10 at 7:44am
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Originally Posted by Flips View Post

I'm not 100% positive my issues are due to EDID. But after spending most of the weekend (probably the last warm weekend in the midwest ) trying all sorts of things, including trying some of the inf files on the first page, I would like to rule it out.

I am still stuck multich pcm. I can't even get just plain DTS to go to the receiver, so I don't know if I have something else going on. ffdshow says that it is sending SPDIF, I'm not sure if that should be saying something else.

I've got a 5450 512mb card in a geforce 8300 mobo, running ati's video and audio driver 10.9, I've tried the latest realtek as well with the same results.

Receiver is a Onkyo TX-SR607, video device is a Mitsubishi HC3800 projector. I haven't seen any postings of the HC3800. I did try the denon and hc5500, but that didn't work for me.

Tulli, I attached both the getEDID capture as well as the moninfo capture. If you can make a mod for me, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,
flips

If you have latest ATI drivers installed, you should be able to bitstream over that Onkyo. You would only need en EDID override if you have video problems or HDMI handshaking issues.

Check your setup (as ffdshow should say something like "HDMI passthrough"). Download latest versions of both ffdshow & MPC-HC from www.xvidvideo.ru and set them up accordingly (look for dbone1026 guide on his sig.from one of his posts on the forum).
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post #1668 of 3565
10/13/10 at 7:48am
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Originally Posted by Libran View Post

What software you are using to play content? Try MPC-HC with the latest ffdshow build. Also try passthrouh mode for DTS (and other format) in the settings of ffsdhow.

I should mention that I'm in XP... From the posts that seems to becoming less and less common... Are there any issues with XP and bitstreaming?

MPC-HC or even graphedit is what I'm using for testing. My htpc is a SageTV client. I followed this guide for the setup. Everything is setup exactly as shown for ffdshow.

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010...7-htpc-part-i/

Edit: for Tulli's reply.. Hmm.. that's interesting... when I say "ffdshow says" I mean when I mouse over it next to the clock. So that should say hdmi passthrough instead? I wonder why the system would be defaulting to spdif. I have seen comments talk about disabling audio on the mobo. Is that something I should try? The only settings I saw in bios were disable hdmi audio, but that didn't make a difference.

flips
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post #1669 of 3565
10/13/10 at 7:50am
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Ok, that's the problem then. AFAIK no bitstreaming of HD audio codecs is possible on XP so far with the ATI 5xxxs.
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post #1670 of 3565
10/13/10 at 7:59am
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Ok, that's the problem then. AFAIK no bitstreaming of HD audio codecs is possible on XP so far with the ATI 5xxxs.

ugh...

okay. thanks. I guess I can stop banging my head against the wall now...
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post #1671 of 3565
10/13/10 at 10:13am
get 7... you won't regret it! Forget about Vista fears!!!
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post #1672 of 3565
10/13/10 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by jimwhite View Post

get 7... you won't regret it! Forget about Vista fears!!!

yeah.. if I did a full load I would for sure just go with 7, but was hoping to avoid that...

I tried reclock tonight, and I got kind of an odd result. For the first few seconds of the clip it was saying dolby digital and IIx, (the clip was DTS) and then it switched back to PCM for the duration of the clip. Is that some sort of handshaking issue?

flips
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post #1673 of 3565
10/14/10 at 6:28am
I read the whole 56 pages and tried several EDID OVERRIDES but I still don`t have DTS-HD on my SONY STR-DG820 ( and Philips 42PFL5603). I`m using Win7 x64 and Ati Catalyst 10.9.

Tulli, I attached the moninfo capture. If you can make a mod for me, I would really appreciate it.

 

MonInfo.zip 2.3544921875k . file
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post #1674 of 3565
10/14/10 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by morfeo11 View Post
I read the whole 56 pages and tried several EDID OVERRIDES but I still don`t have DTS-HD on my SONY STR-DG820 ( and Philips 42PFL5603). I`m using Win7 x64 and Ati Catalyst 10.9.

Tulli, I attached the moninfo capture. If you can make a mod for me, I would really appreciate it.
Here's your mod. Let me know if it works as the Sony has a 6-LPCM SAD and a 8-LPCM SAD. That would prove that a 6-LPCM SAD is a sufficient condition to break bitstreaming with current ATI drivers.

 

Philips 42PFL5603 - SONY STR-DG820.zip 1.2421875k . file
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post #1675 of 3565
10/15/10 at 3:33am
Having the stereo only issue in Win 7 x 64 with ati 5450 hdmi. I can only see stereo speakers in sound control.

I have the 5450 hdmi going into my onkyo tx sr605, then hdmi into my samsung 50" plasma. Have no issues with picture, just the sound.

I have mpc and ffdshow - though i have seen different screenshots ticking hdmi passthrough and some not.

I have tried latest catalyst drivers. ati hdmi, realtek hdmi drivers and my own edid from moninfo.

I have only used the avr inf i made but have enclosed both.

Help much appreciated.

 

samsung.onkyo.zip 2.3037109375k . file
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post #1676 of 3565
10/15/10 at 4:05am
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Have you set the Onkyo 605 HDMI to non-passthrough of TV audio? The 605 should have no issues with latest Catalyst drivers, so you should have no need of an EDID override at all to bistream.

EDIT: the ONKYO EDID you posted has in fact only a 2-LPCM SAD!
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post #1677 of 3565
10/15/10 at 4:14am
Is that in ffdshow ? If so I have tried that.
Does it not matter that only stereo speakers are available in the windows sound applet ?

So I should uninstall everything apart from catalyst drivers ?
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post #1678 of 3565
10/15/10 at 4:33am
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No, that's the ONKYO HDMI setup that you can access with the AVR GUI. Check it so that is does not repeat your TV's EDID audio (for instance, I have to set my DENON HDMI to "AMP")
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post #1679 of 3565
10/15/10 at 4:50am
woohoo. Yea found it. swear i been through the setup a few times.

cheers mate.
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post #1680 of 3565
10/22/10 at 2:53am
I have ONKYO 905 + Samsung 50" Plasma (PS50B859)

Onkyo is connected with Powercolor 5750 LP.

Is a EDID out there ?
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