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post #2881 of 3885
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRaSH- View Post

@Tulli,
you once made a edid override for my ATI 5550 card but i got now a ATI 6570,
should i still use the edid override or isn't it needed anymore ?

You shouldn't require the EDID override.
post #2882 of 3885
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

The Gefen HDMI Detective keeps an HDMI connection alive so that no HDMI switching/detection takes place. EDID overrides "could" help with the handshaking but NOT when the issues are with WMC.

Thanks for the response and the amount of time you've spent in this thread!!!

Hopefully this isn't a dumb question: If you're saying the HDMI Detective keeps the connection alive, does that mean the computer won't need to do another HDCP handshake? Thus eliminating the random "Your device cannot play protected content" error that pops up in WMC (usually after waking my computer from sleep)? That error goes away most of the time if I go into windowed mode with WMC or back to full screen mode (or sometime requiring a reboot). I was thinking at that point, somehow the computer does another HDCP handshake when returning back to the windows desktop...?
post #2883 of 3885
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Quote:
Originally Posted by assplats View Post

Thanks for the response and the amount of time you've spent in this thread!!!

Hopefully this isn't a dumb question: If you're saying the HDMI Detective keeps the connection alive, does that mean the computer won't need to do another HDCP handshake? Thus eliminating the random "Your device cannot play protected content" error that pops up in WMC (usually after waking my computer from sleep)? That error goes away most of the time if I go into windowed mode with WMC or back to full screen mode (or sometime requiring a reboot). I was thinking at that point, somehow the computer does another HDCP handshake when returning back to the windows desktop...?

Your problem is the hot plug detection by the graphic driver activated with every switch/power on, off/sleep, wake up, which won't occur with the Gefen device. Going to window mode/full screen in WMC is "one layer above" the driver level, so it's internal to WMC. Anyway with no re-detections by the graphic driver there should be no WMC issues like these anymore.
post #2884 of 3885
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Your problem is the hot plug detection by the graphic driver activated with every switch/power on, off/sleep, wake up, which won't occur with the Gefen device. Going to window mode/full screen in WMC is "one layer above" the driver level, so it's internal to WMC. Anyway with no re-detections by the graphic driver there should be no WMC issues like these anymore.

Thank you so much for this great explanation. It makes sense and you answered what I was concerned about. I'm going to go ahead and buy the Gefen device then to fix my WMC issue. I imagine this should also help with any other unforeseen handshake issues.

Too bad is so expensive! I've read that some HDMI switches would work as well, but I just want a small device and didn't want to chance getting one that doesn't help.
post #2885 of 3885
Tulli,

on your last update u said :
There're many requests of EDID overrides to override the 2 channel limitation of TVs used to passthrough over S/PDIF, that is:

HTPC -> [HDMI] -> TV -> [S/PDIF] AVR

Please note that:

S/PDIF has not enough bandwidth for uncompressed 6 channels LPCM. Thus the EDID limitation to 2 channels.
Only passthrough of compressed audio (e. g. AC3, DTS) is possible, so it's for the application (Video Player setup, encoding, filtering, like with AC3Filter, or even DDL = Dolby Digital Live for games) to take control of how audio is sent through the HDMI link.]
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i have this hook up system :

notebook asus core i7 sandy bridge via hdmi -> panasonic lcd THL37G10
panasonic lcd THL37G10 via optical spdif -> lg lht6440 5.1 (no HDMI port)
note: my vga is intel hd graphics 3000 integrated, and nvidia geforce gt540M

from moninfo i get :
CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16-bit at 32/44/48 kHz

how can i override the 2 channel above via EDID-override (like u said it can be fooled with EDID override)
if i want to play mkv files with DD or DTS in it,
how can i passthrough (bitstream) DD and DTS from notebook to my lg ht (sure my lg can decode DTS and DD)

see my attached inf

big thanks Tulli...
Michael

 

Moninfo Panasonic THL37G10.txt 5.052734375k . file
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PanasonicTHL37G10.zip 1.2294921875k . file
post #2886 of 3885
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by panmod View Post
Tulli,

on your last update u said :
There're many requests of EDID overrides to override the 2 channel limitation of TVs used to passthrough over S/PDIF, that is:

HTPC -> [HDMI] -> TV -> [S/PDIF] AVR

Please note that:

S/PDIF has not enough bandwidth for uncompressed 6 channels LPCM. Thus the EDID limitation to 2 channels.
Only passthrough of compressed audio (e. g. AC3, DTS) is possible, so it's for the application (Video Player setup, encoding, filtering, like with AC3Filter, or even DDL = Dolby Digital Live for games) to take control of how audio is sent through the HDMI link.]
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i have this hook up system :

notebook asus core i7 sandy bridge via hdmi -> panasonic lcd THL37G10
panasonic lcd THL37G10 via optical spdif -> lg lht6440 5.1 (no HDMI port)
note: my vga is intel hd graphics 3000 integrated, and nvidia geforce gt540M

from moninfo i get :
CE audio data (formats supported)
LPCM 2-channel, 16-bit at 32/44/48 kHz

how can i override the 2 channel above via EDID-override (like u said it can be fooled with EDID override)
if i want to play mkv files with DD or DTS in it,
how can i passthrough (bitstream) DD and DTS from notebook to my lg ht (sure my lg can decode DTS and DD)

see my attached inf

big thanks Tulli...
Michael
You only need an EDID override in you case if AC3 (and DTS if applied) are not listed on the HDMI audio device properties

Otherwise, and as explained above, the application (player, game, etc.) must send an AC3 (or DTS) compressed stream. This is the only way to get multichannel over S/PDIF.

Take a look at this thread for a cheap live encoding card for compressed audio.

EDIT:

The Panasonic TV EDID has no AC3 or DTS capabilities. Added ...

Please NOTE that Intel IGPs don't accept EDID overrides!

 

PanasonicTHL37G10+6AC3+DTS.zip 1.244140625k . file
post #2887 of 3885
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

You only need an EDID override in you case if AC3 (and DTS if applied) are not listed on the HDMI audio device properties

Otherwise, and as explained above, the application (player, game, etc.) must send an AC3 (or DTS) compressed stream. This is the only way to get multichannel over S/PDIF.

EDIT:

The Panasonic TV EDID has no AC3 or DTS capabilities. Added ...

Please NOTE that Intel IGPs don't accept EDID overrides!



thanks Tulli for ur quick response and for the modified inf.

so r u saying this inf that u moded cant be applied by my notebook which has intel graphic card?

just want to clarify here (im newbie) :

with my configuration above (ie notebook->hdmi->lcd panny->optical->audio receiver LG 5.1),
i dont really need EDID-override if all i wanted is to bitstream DD or DTS.
but all i need is to configure my media player (MPCHC/ffdshow) to output AC3 or DTS compresed, and my HDMI connection (notebook to LCD) will pass it through lcd optical out and be received and recognized by LG as DD or DTS signal.

am i right? cmiiw please.

thanks
Michael
post #2888 of 3885
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Originally Posted by panmod View Post

cmiiw

I'll admit that I had to google that one... Keep in mind that we aren't limited to 143 characters here (or whatever the Twitter limit is).
post #2889 of 3885
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by panmod View Post

thanks Tulli for ur quick response and for the modified inf.

so r u saying this inf that u moded cant be applied by my notebook which has intel graphic card?

just want to clarify here (im newbie) :

with my configuration above (ie notebook->hdmi->lcd panny->optical->audio receiver LG 5.1),
i dont really need EDID-override if all i wanted is to bitstream DD or DTS.
but all i need is to configure my media player (MPCHC/ffdshow) to output AC3 or DTS compresed, and my HDMI connection (notebook to LCD) will pass it through lcd optical out and be received and recognized by LG as DD or DTS signal.

am i right? cmiiw please.

thanks
Michael

Yes, you're right. However the EDID of your Panasonic TV has only 2-LPCM capability, but your laptop has a geforce gt540M that will accept an EDID override.
post #2890 of 3885
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Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Yes, you're right. However the EDID of your Panasonic TV has only 2-LPCM capability, but your laptop has a geforce gt540M that will accept an EDID override.

Tulli,

i already applied ur EDID-override and reboot my notebook, but no change.
i run moninfo again after override, but it still showing 2 LPCM only.
now when i tried to play mkv with DD or DTS via MPCHC/ffdshow, there's no sound signal received from my LG at all, neither my lcd. is this because i try to apply the inf using default graphic card (intel) ?
now how am i going to apply the inf using my gt540M? can u lead me with the link or tutorial to apply the inf using notebook secondary graphic card?

in ur tutorial u said to reset the tv and audio receiver after override, is that can be done with just turn off and then turn on the devices or require special reset via tv/receiver menu (ie master reset) ?

thanks
Michael.
post #2891 of 3885
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by panmod View Post

Tulli,

i already applied ur EDID-override and reboot my notebook, but no change.
i run moninfo again after override, but it still showing 2 LPCM only.
now when i tried to play mkv with DD or DTS via MPCHC/ffdshow, there's no sound signal received from my LG at all, neither my lcd. is this because i try to apply the inf using default graphic card (intel) ?
now how am i going to apply the inf using my gt540M? can u lead me with the link or tutorial to apply the inf using notebook secondary graphic card?

in ur tutorial u said to reset the tv and audio receiver after override, is that can be done with just turn off and then turn on the devices or require special reset via tv/receiver menu (ie master reset) ?

thanks
Michael.

I don't know but the I guess the Intel HDMI could be disabled in the BIOS.

Nothing to do with the TV or receiver. Make sure that the laptop is using the Nvidia HDMI, apply the override, reboot and check the HDMI audio device properties.
post #2892 of 3885
I have an issue that I believe the proper EDID override could fix. I have a htpc hooked up to my TV via HDMI and then the optical out on the TV goes to my old JVC receiver for sound. The JVC receiver does dolby digital, but not the new DTS HD that most blu-rays have. I am using PowerDVD to play my blu-rays. In PowerDVD I have the option to not decode the audio and do a pass through. This results in sound from things like the previews and menus that have dolby digital, but when the movie plays, I get no sound because my receiver cannot decode the DTS HD from the blu-ray. My other option in PowerDVD is to have PowerDVD decode to PCM 2 channel, but I want 5.1. PowerDVD has the capability to down mix to dolby digital, but since it is reading my EDID off my TV, it is limiting it to 2 channel decoding options.

I read through the first post, and I'm a little confused because step 1 walks you through capturing the EDID codes from both the TV and Receiver and puts them into inf files. From my understanding you are supposed to merge these codes, but there are no instructions about merging them. I suppose that is what the other EDID thread addresses? Either way, my receiver does not have HDMI. So, I need to basically trick my computer into thinking my TV has a 5.1 speaker setup. I tried using "LG 55LE8500 - DENON AVR-4311", my computer still showed 2 speaker stereo in the speaker setup, and PowerDVD still only gave me the PCM 2 channel option.
post #2893 of 3885
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Originally Posted by timtlm View Post

I have an issue that I believe the proper EDID override could fix. I have a htpc hooked up to my TV via HDMI and then the optical out on the TV goes to my old JVC receiver for sound. The JVC receiver does dolby digital, but not the new DTS HD that most blu-rays have. I am using PowerDVD to play my blu-rays. In PowerDVD I have the option to not decode the audio and do a pass through. This results in sound from things like the previews and menus that have dolby digital, but when the movie plays, I get no sound because my receiver cannot decode the DTS HD from the blu-ray. My other option in PowerDVD is to have PowerDVD decode to PCM 2 channel, but I want 5.1. PowerDVD has the capability to down mix to dolby digital, but since it is reading my EDID off my TV, it is limiting it to 2 channel decoding options.

I read through the first post, and I'm a little confused because step 1 walks you through capturing the EDID codes from both the TV and Receiver and puts them into inf files. From my understanding you are supposed to merge these codes, but there are no instructions about merging them. I suppose that is what the other EDID thread addresses? Either way, my receiver does not have HDMI. So, I need to basically trick my computer into thinking my TV has a 5.1 speaker setup. I tried using "LG 55LE8500 - DENON AVR-4311", my computer still showed 2 speaker stereo in the speaker setup, and PowerDVD still only gave me the PCM 2 channel option.

There is indeed too much confusion about this problem, so let's be clear about these facts:
  1. S/PDIF has only enough bandwidth for 2 channels uncompressed audio. This is the reason why the EDID of the TV has a specification of max 2 channels for HDMI. This is a CORRECT spec that can't be bypassed, even if the EDID is overriden with a specification for 6 channels.
  2. Only compressed multi-channel audio streams that your TV accepts will work. To know which are accepted simply check on the HDMI audio properties windows under "Supported Formats".
    If no compressed formats are shown, and you're certain that your TV accepts compressed formats, only then an EDID override will be required.
  3. There is of course not enough bandwith over S/PDIF to passthrough HD audio streams (e. g. TrueHD or DTS HD).A way around is using an alternate S/PDIF connection to the AVR so that the core audio streams (plain DD or DTS) are played back. AFAIK this "could" work by going through the TV, but if it doesn't use an S/PDIF connection.
post #2894 of 3885
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

I don't know but the I guess the Intel HDMI could be disabled in the BIOS. Make sure that the laptop is using the Nvidia HDMI, apply the override, reboot and check the HDMI audio device properties.

Tulli, there's no option on my notebook bios that can disable Intel IGP, so i guess im stuck here...

i already search for bios upgrade from asus website but no luck.

so i tried this (see NVIDIA CP attachment) then applied EDID override and reboot, but no luck.

then i do this (see Device Manger attachments) in the hope that the one and only HDMI port on my notebook is connected to secondary NVIDIA graphic card on my notebook :
i tried to replace HDMI audio driver (intel(R) display audio) on control panel -> sound, video and game controller manually using methode : button update driver ->browse my comp -> let me pick from list -> have disk and pointed to location of extracted nvidia newest driver (285.62-notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-international-whql) on folder HDAudio, but then the control panel tree showing yellow triangle indicating that the driver mismatched. No luck.

so is there any other way that notebook owner with Intel IGP can do to apply EDID override using secondary discrete graphic card? any help would be appriciated.

michael
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post #2895 of 3885
Quote:
Originally Posted by timtlm View Post

So, I need to basically trick my computer into thinking my TV has a 5.1 speaker setup. I tried using "LG 55LE8500 - DENON AVR-4311", my computer still showed 2 speaker stereo in the speaker setup, and PowerDVD still only gave me the PCM 2 channel option.

timtlm, this is just exactly what i really wanted, to fool my notebook into thinking that my LCD has 5.1 capable so HDMI can deliver 5.1 compressed (DD or DTS) to optical out of LCD. but mine out of luck because my notebook only has 1 HDMI port and i dont know which graphic card (IGP INTEL or discrete NVIDIA) led to this HDMI port. even worse i cannot make my NVIDIA be my primary graphic card.

did u reboot ur htpc after applying EDID override?
what is the graphic card (ATI/NVIDIA/INTEL)of ur htpc?

michael
post #2896 of 3885
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

There is indeed too much confusion about this problem, so let's be clear about these facts:
  1. S/PDIF has only enough bandwidth for 2 channels uncompressed audio. This is the reason why the EDID of the TV has a specification of max 2 channels for HDMI. This is a CORRECT spec that can't be bypassed, even if the EDID is overriden with a specification for 6 channels.
  2. Only compressed multi-channel audio streams that your TV accepts will work. To know which are accepted simply check on the HDMI audio properties windows under "Supported Formats".
    If no compressed formats are shown, and you're certain that your TV accepts compressed formats, only then an EDID override will be required.
  3. There is of course not enough bandwith over S/PDIF to passthrough HD audio streams (e. g. TrueHD or DTS HD).A way around is using an alternate S/PDIF connection to the AVR so that the core audio streams (plain DD or DTS) are played back. AFAIK this "could" work by going through the TV, but if it doesn't use an S/PDIF connection.

Thanks for the explanation. Let me explain further. With windows media center live tv, dvd playback, and xbmc send a dolby digital signal through my tv and out to my AVR via optical out. These programs let me specifically say I have a 5.1 speaker setup. My AVR lights up with dolby digital and shows channels for all 5.1 speakers. So, I assume it is a compressed signal that gets decoded by my receiver. The problem is PowerDVD won't send a 5.1 channel signal, and I think it is because it sees my TV as a 2 speaker setup. See my attached screenshots. I have three options within PowerDVD: PCM decoded by PowerDVD, Non-decoded Dolby Digital/DTS audio to external devices, and Non-decoded high-definition audio to external device. If I choose PCM decoded by PowerDVD, I only get a 2 speaker signal. If I choose Non-decoded Dolby Digital/DTS audio to external device, I get audio in some of the previews and the menu, but when the movie starts playing I don't get any audio. I'm guessing it's because the main movie has HD audio, or my TV apparently will only pass through dolby digital and not DTS (based on the supported formats, even though my receiver is DTS capable). I think if PowerDVD thought I had a 5.1 speaker setup, it would send a PCM signal with 5.1 channels. I installed TotalMedia Theatre to try it out, and it has an option to mix everything as dolby digital, and with that I get a 5.1 signal to my receiver. The problem I have with TMT is that the playback is not as smooth as PowerDVD.

Two other things to point out. 1. Typically TVs will take a dolby digital 5.1 signal from HDMI and only pass through 2 speaker output through the optical out. I actually had to access my TV's service menu to enable AC3 passthrough. 2. I have a passive 3D TV, so taking an EDID override from just any LG TV will probably result in not reporting the 3D capability correctly.

(What I really need is a new receiver so I can bypass the tv )
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post #2897 of 3885
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timtlm View Post

Thanks for the explanation. Let me explain further. With windows media center live tv, dvd playback, and xbmc send a dolby digital signal through my tv and out to my AVR via optical out. These programs let me specifically say I have a 5.1 speaker setup. My AVR lights up with dolby digital and shows channels for all 5.1 speakers. So, I assume it is a compressed signal that gets decoded by my receiver. The problem is PowerDVD won't send a 5.1 channel signal, and I think it is because it sees my TV as a 2 speaker setup. See my attached screenshots. I have three options within PowerDVD: PCM decoded by PowerDVD, Non-decoded Dolby Digital/DTS audio to external devices, and Non-decoded high-definition audio to external device. If I choose PCM decoded by PowerDVD, I only get a 2 speaker signal. If I choose Non-decoded Dolby Digital/DTS audio to external device, I get audio in some of the previews and the menu, but when the movie starts playing I don't get any audio. I'm guessing it's because the main movie has HD audio, or my TV apparently will only pass through dolby digital and not DTS (based on the supported formats, even though my receiver is DTS capable). I think if PowerDVD thought I had a 5.1 speaker setup, it would send a PCM signal with 5.1 channels. I installed TotalMedia Theatre to try it out, and it has an option to mix everything as dolby digital, and with that I get a 5.1 signal to my receiver. The problem I have with TMT is that the playback is not as smooth as PowerDVD.

Two other things to point out. 1. Typically TVs will take a dolby digital 5.1 signal from HDMI and only pass through 2 speaker output through the optical out. I actually had to access my TV's service menu to enable AC3 passthrough. 2. I have a passive 3D TV, so taking an EDID override from just any LG TV will probably result in not reporting the 3D capability correctly.

(What I really need is a new receiver so I can bypass the tv )

Again, 5.1 PCM is not possible over S/PDIF (see bold text in quoted message).

But maybe PDVD does require a multichannel device so, post the native EDID of your TV and I'll add 6 channels capability. It won't affect 3D.
post #2898 of 3885
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by panmod View Post

Tulli, there's no option on my notebook bios that can disable Intel IGP, so i guess im stuck here...

i already search for bios upgrade from asus website but no luck.

so i tried this (see NVIDIA CP attachment) then applied EDID override and reboot, but no luck.

then i do this (see Device Manger attachments) in the hope that the one and only HDMI port on my notebook is connected to secondary NVIDIA graphic card on my notebook :
i tried to replace HDMI audio driver (intel(R) display audio) on control panel -> sound, video and game controller manually using methode : button update driver ->browse my comp -> let me pick from list -> have disk and pointed to location of extracted nvidia newest driver (285.62-notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-international-whql) on folder HDAudio, but then the control panel tree showing yellow triangle indicating that the driver mismatched. No luck.

so is there any other way that notebook owner with Intel IGP can do to apply EDID override using secondary discrete graphic card? any help would be appriciated.

michael

Try running a full install of the Nvidia driver and check that the hdmi audio device is fully functional (no yellow admiration sign).
post #2899 of 3885
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post
Again, 5.1 PCM is not possible over S/PDIF (see bold text in quoted message).

But maybe PDVD does require a multichannel device so, post the native EDID of your TV and I'll add 6 channels capability. It won't affect 3D.
Thanks for all of your assistance. Obviously I'm not well versed on all the technical details of digital audio. Anyway, I ran the program and noticed that it says it does support 6 channel ac3 and 2 channel LPCM. So, maybe it is just a limitation of PowerDVD. I would think that if I choose the Non-decoded dolby digital/DTS that it should send compatible audio. I've attached the inf file it created.


Code:
CE audio data (formats supported)
  AC-3    6-channel,  640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
  LPCM    2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz

 

monitor.txt 3.00390625k . file
post #2900 of 3885
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by timtlm View Post
Thanks for all of your assistance. Obviously I'm not well versed on all the technical details of digital audio. Anyway, I ran the program and noticed that it says it does support 6 channel ac3 and 2 channel LPCM. So, maybe it is just a limitation of PowerDVD. I would think that if I choose the Non-decoded dolby digital/DTS that it should send compatible audio. I've attached the inf file it created.


Code:
CE audio data (formats supported)
  AC-3    6-channel,  640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
  LPCM    2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48 kHz
...

 

monitor+6AC3+6LPCM.zip 1.2431640625k . file
post #2901 of 3885
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

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Thanks, but unfortunately I couldn't even get a connection to the TV (I did reboot). I think my issue ultimately lies with the fact that my TV doesn't accept DTS and pass it through to the AVR, and that PowerDVD doesn't let me explicitly say mix to DD5.1.
post #2902 of 3885
Hi Tulli,

Hoping you may be able to help.
I have a hdmi 1.4 3d projector (JVC-DLAX3) and HDMI 1.3 Preamp (Marantz AV8003). I am running Ati 6750 and catalyst 11.12 drivers.

I have tried moding my edid's so Pre could pass the 3d signal and also tried using similar edids with limited success. I can get it to pass 3d when I use the Projector's inf but only 2 channel audio. When I add av8003's audio it will not pass 3d through anymore.

I tried using marantz avr7005 edid, and will pass multichannel audio through direct show, but seems to have trouble with bitstreamed or decoded pcm audio from a bluray with powerdvd, the poweramp shows no audio but will pass 3d fine.

Not sure this is 100% possible but as I have it passing 3d on it's own I am guessing it could be. Be really great If I can get it to work.

I have attached my edid's thanks.

 

jvcx3-av8003.zip 2.3232421875k . file
post #2903 of 3885
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by judge25 View Post

Hi Tulli,

Hoping you may be able to help.
I have a hdmi 1.4 3d projector (JVC-DLAX3) and HDMI 1.3 Preamp (Marantz AV8003). I am running Ati 6750 and catalyst 11.12 drivers.

I have tried moding my edid's so Pre could pass the 3d signal and also tried using similar edids with limited success. I can get it to pass 3d when I use the Projector's inf but only 2 channel audio. When I add av8003's audio it will not pass 3d through anymore.

I tried using marantz avr7005 edid, and will pass multichannel audio through direct show, but seems to have trouble with bitstreamed or decoded pcm audio from a bluray with powerdvd, the poweramp shows no audio but will pass 3d fine.

Not sure this is 100% possible but as I have it passing 3d on it's own I am guessing it could be. Be really great If I can get it to work.

I have attached my edid's thanks.

Please read update on 3D in 1st. post.
post #2904 of 3885
thanks for the reply. I have read and not sure what it all means

I know it is possible with 2 cables, but is it possible with one cable using an edid override? I thought by the updated 3d section it is, am I reading it wrong?
post #2905 of 3885
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Quote:
Originally Posted by judge25 View Post

thanks for the reply. I have read and not sure what it all means

I know it is possible with 2 cables, but is it possible with one cable using an edid override? I thought by the updated 3d section it is, am I reading it wrong?

It's possible with one cable and an EDID override but you lose HD audio (TrueHD and DTS HD).
post #2906 of 3885
Damn! Well that defeats the purpose of it for me

I am guessing that on player decoding to multi channel pcm doesn't work either?

Oh well, thanks for your help Tulli, appreciate it.
post #2907 of 3885
Hi Tulli!

Here I'm back again and here is my problem:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=995

What should I do?

EDIT: BTW, I can get 5.1 audio (and all expected audio formats) over HDMI > AVR >TV. (But as we know, I have to choose extended display mode to get 3D video together with HD audio since I have an HDMI 1.3 AVR. (Denon 1910.)
post #2908 of 3885
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

Hi Tulli!

Here I'm back again and here is my problem:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=995

What should I do?

EDIT: BTW, I can get 5.1 audio (and all expected audio formats) over HDMI > AVR >TV. (But as we know, I have to choose extended display mode to get 3D video together with HD audio since I have an HDMI 1.3 AVR. (Denon 1910.)

The problem with AMD cards is not being dual audio stream enabled. If you have a 3D TV + HDMI1.3 AVR is a PIA to get it right, as the AVR must be set to primary to get the active audio stream, and the TV in extended mode.

None of this nonsense with an Nvidia card of course ...
post #2909 of 3885
Thanks Tulli.

Selecting AVR as primary display didn't fix the issue.

When AVR is selected as primary, I can only see the Seven background without taskbar and even I switch to my secondary display (TV) via seven+shift+left/right arrow keys and if I check the "playback devices", i can only see "stereo" option.
I just ordered an Ati DVI to HDMI adapter to test again?
But I believe I should give up.
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I had to change the HDMI input setting on my receiver - before that I also had stereo only - but I have a tv connected, and also, as advanced user, you probably tried this already.
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