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post #3331 of 3886
1.Pansonic TX-32LZD81
2.Onkyo HT-R380
3 ATI 5450

TMT5 playback device.

Onkyo HT--380.txt 9k .txt file

PANSONIC TX-32LZD81.txt 8k .txt file
Edited by 2KAN - 10/26/12 at 4:10pm
post #3332 of 3886
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2KAN View Post

1.Pansonic TX-32LZD81
2.Onkyo HT-R380
3 ATI 5450
TMT5 playback device.
I have noticed that others with the same AVR have had issues bitstreaming TrueHD. i.e Light on AVR doesnt change and displays PCM.
When i run MonInfo it displays my AVR ? Monitor_Asset_Manger_Realtime.txt 6k .txt file is this correct?

Fixed. I assume the Panasonic video timings are being correctly replicated in the AVR EDID:

Panasonic TX-32LZD81 - ONKYO HT-R380.zip 1k .zip file
post #3333 of 3886
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2KAN View Post

1.Pansonic TX-32LZD81
2.Onkyo HT-R380
3 ATI 5450
TMT5 playback device.
Onkyo HT--380.txt 9k .txt file
PANSONIC TX-32LZD81.txt 8k .txt file

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Fixed. I assume the Panasonic video timings are being correctly replicated in the AVR EDID:
Panasonic TX-32LZD81 - ONKYO HT-R380.zip 1k .zip file

biggrin.gif Fantastic! Thank you so very very much,this little light has lead to so much frustration and has been driving me mad for a while now and it now works as it should. Thank you again.

[Q] If i upgrade to windows 8 would this new .inf file work also? Thank you again smile.gif
post #3334 of 3886
Thread Starter 
Yes, it will work on Windows 8 but you must disable driver signature enforcement:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1227161/edid-overrides-to-solve-bitstreaming-issues-for-ati-5xxxs/3240#post_22347472
post #3335 of 3886
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Yes, it will work on Windows 8 but you must disable driver signature enforcement:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1227161/edid-overrides-to-solve-bitstreaming-issues-for-ati-5xxxs/3240#post_22347472

Keeps breaking the audio even with the disable driver signature enforcement turned off?

1. install windows 8
2. Update Ati drivers
3. Install Monitor .inf file
4. red cross appears on speaker icon and breaks audio.
5.reboot and remains broken.

Any suggestions as I really like the look of windows 8, although it looks like it requires a lot of tweeks to work well with a htpc system.
post #3336 of 3886
Thread Starter 
That should be a driver problem, not due to EDID detection. Are you using latest AMD drivers?
post #3337 of 3886
Yeah was the latest windows 8 32bit from the AMD website. Strange thing was, I had to disable UAC as well as driver signature enforcement to make it stick. All good now, thank you kind sir. smile.gif
post #3338 of 3886
post #3339 of 3886
Hi,

I have an nvidia 8400M GS
hdmi
> Philips 42PFL9664H TV
Coax----> Pioneer VSX-D511 AVR.
When I test the DTS sound via the windows 7 x64 sound test, it sound great and the receiver identify it as DTS but I can't get DTS to work when playing a movie via xbmc\mpc-hm\vlc.
My PS3 can play DTS using the same connection scheme (PS3->TV->AVR) and the AVR identify it as DTS.
Dolby digital works great on all systems.

I have the EDID of the tv and it does state that only LPCM and AC-3 are supported.
I don't know how to get my AVR EDID as its an old reciver with no HDMI.

Anyway someone can help me add the DTS to my TV EDID? Philips-TV-42PFL9664H.zip 1k .zip file
post #3340 of 3886
Thread Starter 
Try the attached mod, which should work video-wise for your TV. However it may stiil not give you DTS passthrough if your TV does not allow it. Keep in mind that PC graphic drivers do enforce EDID specs.

Philips 42pfl9703h+AC3+DTS (5.1).zip 2k .zip file
post #3341 of 3886
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Try the attached mod, which should work video-wise for your TV. However it may stiil not give you DTS passthrough if your TV does not allow it. Keep in mind that PC graphic drivers do enforce EDID specs.
Philips 42pfl9703h+AC3+DTS (5.1).zip 2k .zip file
Thanks Tulli, but it doesn't work... still no DTS using MPC and ffdshow set to bitstream.
Any idea why the PS3 can play DTS via my TV but the computer can't?.
post #3342 of 3886
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Try the attached mod, which should work video-wise for your TV. However it may stiil not give you DTS passthrough if your TV does not allow it. Keep in mind that PC graphic drivers do enforce EDID specs.
Philips 42pfl9703h+AC3+DTS (5.1).zip 2k .zip file
Thanks Tulli, but it doesn't work... still no DTS using MPC and ffdshow set to bitstream.
Any idea why the PS3 can play DTS via my TV but the computer can't?.
post #3343 of 3886
Thread Starter 
Is DTS listed as a supported format for the HDMI audio device after applying the override? If you right-click on the ffdshow audio systray icon, does it show "HDMI passthrough" or something similar?
post #3344 of 3886
The only possiblity is that the PS3 is presenting the DTS encapsulated in WAV/PCM. The VSX is able to detect the DTS framing in the PCM stream but the TV just thinks it's passing a regular 2 channel PCM stream.

You would need to use an audio decoder that will encapsulate DTS in WAV/PCM format. I can't think of any offhand that will do it. ffdshow might but I haven't used it in a long time.
post #3345 of 3886
Thread Starter 
That should be it, vladd! In fact, it should be the rule as most TVs (e. g. Samsungs) don't have DTS capability.
post #3346 of 3886
AFAIK, no tv does.

I believe that you would need to limit the EDID to 2 channel PCM for it to work as well (or set Windows audio settings to be two channel output)
post #3347 of 3886
Quote:
Originally Posted by vladd View Post

The only possiblity is that the PS3 is presenting the DTS encapsulated in WAV/PCM. The VSX is able to detect the DTS framing in the PCM stream but the TV just thinks it's passing a regular 2 channel PCM stream.
You would need to use an audio decoder that will encapsulate DTS in WAV/PCM format. I can't think of any offhand that will do it. ffdshow might but I haven't used it in a long time.
That's sound true, but I can't understand how the windows test in the audio settings can also send DTS signal. I don't believe it encapsulate it as WAV/PCM.
post #3348 of 3886
Hello,

I have a ATI-6450 and a Onkyo TX-SR313 AV connected by HDMI and am in need of a fix please.

My problem is slightly different to most though from what I am reading, first of all with the Generic PnP Driver installed according to Windows Sound I have all supported formats, XBMC will only play normal DTS files with DTS-HD or TrueHD enabled, in Power DVD options they all show too UNTIL I play something then I lose DTS-HD but PCM and normal DTS remain, if I pause then DTS-HD returns until I play it.

This lead me to try various EDID fixes, a couple I created myself and a number posted on here with a variety of results, most don't change anything at all some break audio completely but one I found enables DTS-HD & TrueHD but only at 48Hz though 192 is listed in the EDID file and 192 PCM continues to work which confuses me, the file in question is "Samsung LE46B650 - ONKYO TX-NR509" and is on the first page.

I have exported my detected EDID from MONINFO too which I have attached below.
TX-SR313.zip 1k .zip file

Please let me know if you require any further information.

Thanks
post #3349 of 3886
Thread Starter 
Audio block is standard in all mods to enable all sample rates. If you get 48khz it must be the source as audio is being bitstreamed, i. e. passed through unmolested for reproduction on the AVR.
post #3350 of 3886
Ok 'problem' solved, one should never stay up for 28 hours trying to fix these issues as you end up missing things.

Came back to it this evening using that driver I 'said' partially works, which is just rubbish as it works fully, basically because the files I was testing with were 48KHz that is obviously all I was going to get when playing DTS-HD, I have downloaded some sample tracks at a few different rates and all work ok so my problem is solved.

Thanks anyway for all your help.
post #3351 of 3886
Hello, i need edid overrides for

Samsung ES6800 3DTV,
Onkyo Tx-sr309,
Sapphire Hd 6850 (HD3D).

Pc -> HDMI -> Onkyo tx-sr309 -> HDMI -> Samsung ES6800

DTS-HD OK
DOLBY-HD OK
FULL-HD OK
3D - SBS OK
TMP5 FOR ISO BLURAY (NOT WORKS) NOT RECOGNIZE DEVICE 3D
TRIDEF GAMES 3D (NOT WORKS) NOT RECOGNIZE DEVICE 3D


Pc -> HDMI -> Samsung ES6800

TMP5 FOR ISO BLURAY OK
TRIDEF GAMES 3D OK

Thanks.
post #3352 of 3886
Thread Starter 
Does it work when connected directly to the TV? If yes, post both real-time EDIDs (see instr. in 1st. post). Otherwise it's a TMT5/driver problem.
post #3353 of 3886
Hi All,

Sorry I thought I updated my post, I have fixed the issue fully now, part of my problem was staying up until 5am trying to fix it I think because I got there at about 3am but didn't realize it...

Basically for my TV the driver for the "Samsung LE46B650 - ONKYO TX-NR509" works, but the one I created for my Amp doesn't frustratingly meaning that I have to manually select this driver, I tried editing it in MonInfo to relect my device name "Onkyo TX-SR313" but when installed it still showed the "TX-NR509".

Still far from the end of the world it's working that is what matters right!

If anyone can fix the naming problem or tell me what I am doing wrong when trying to edit it in MonInfo however that would be much appreciated.

Thanks
post #3354 of 3886
Thread Starter 
Create the .bin file with Moninfo, then find the exact position of the ID in the base block with Extron EDID Manager. Use notepad now to replace the ID. in the .inf file, save and apply the override.
post #3355 of 3886
Hi Tulli Thanks but I am not sure I am clear...

1. Create a .BIN File of the Generic PnP Monitor or the working INF I have?
2. When you said the ID am I looking for the Friendly name of the device?

Rest sounds simple enough. :P

Sorry if I am being stupid.
post #3356 of 3886
Thread Starter 
Yes, use the working INF and the friendly name (the "Monitor Descriptor").
post #3357 of 3886
Quote:
Originally Posted by carlincapo View Post

Hello, i need edid overrides for
Samsung ES6800 3DTV,
Onkyo Tx-sr309,
Sapphire Hd 6850 (HD3D).
Pc -> HDMI -> Onkyo tx-sr309 -> HDMI -> Samsung ES6800
DTS-HD OK
DOLBY-HD OK
FULL-HD OK
3D - SBS OK
TMP5 FOR ISO BLURAY (NOT WORKS) NOT RECOGNIZE DEVICE 3D
TRIDEF GAMES 3D (NOT WORKS) NOT RECOGNIZE DEVICE 3D
Pc -> HDMI -> Samsung ES6800
TMP5 FOR ISO BLURAY OK
TRIDEF GAMES 3D OK
Thanks.

Hello again
Delete older overrides .inf (tx-sr509 - b6500 this forum)and now:

Pc -> HDMI -> Onkyo tx-sr309 -> HDMI -> Samsung ES6800
DTS-HD NOT WORKS (bitstreaming) only 2 chanels
DOLBY-HD NOT WORKS(bitstreaming) only 2 chanels
DTS an DD OK
LPCM 5.1 for games, movies,etc OK
FULL-HD OK
3D - SBS OK
TMP5 FOR ISO BLURAY works!!!!
TRIDEF GAMES 3D works!!!!

Reciver whit TV
Onkyo tx-sr309.zip 1k .zip file

Only TV
Samsung ES6800.zip 1k .zip file

Thanks again.
post #3358 of 3886
Thread Starter 
post #3359 of 3886
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

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Samsung ES6800 - ONKYO TX-SR309.zip 1k .zip file
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

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Samsung ES6800 - ONKYO TX-SR309.zip 1k .zip file
thanks, but not work DTS-HD and Dolby-TrueHD.
Only two chanels..
post #3360 of 3886
Thread Starter 
Should work. Just double-checked. As usual check the installation: are DTS-HD and TrueHD listed for the HDMI device after installing the EDID override? If not the override is not correctly installed; otherwise it's a software problem (your blu-ray player).
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