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post #781 of 3568
Tulli,
Can you check the EDID for the Onkyo HT-R670 again. You had check previously and mentioned that the reciever was good to go. However, I still cannot get HD audio (both DTS MSTR HD & TrueHD) to bitstream.

Setup:
Asus 780G Mobo
4Gb RAM
LG BD/HD DVD combo drive
Powercolor ATI 5450 running Catalyst 10.2
Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit (fresh install)
TMT Platinum v.170 (fresh install)
Onkyo HT-R670 (part of HTiB S6200)

Summary:
No DTS MSTR HD or Dobly True HD is bit-streamed to Onkyo. TMT3 audio is set to HDMI Primary Source with no sound and sometimes causes stuttering in playback. When I set it to DTS or Dolby mixing audio returns and playbck is fine. Tried EDID override per AVS forums to no avail. Also, the receiver worked perfectly via Xonar Slim 1.3. I've also been careful to make sure the HD track was selected in the BD movie menu. In Windows I have made sure that the ATI HD audio controller was selected and configured properly (even has DTS HD and Dolby True HD listed as supported formats in the Properties tab) but still nothing. However, in the properties tab of the ATI HD Audio controller I do not see 192Khz support, why would that not be listed and could this be the problem?
post #782 of 3568
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pbathuk View Post

hi,

bluray removed from draw
rebooted after
7.1 setup on windows
pdvd10 = classic.
does it matter my amp is 2309?
still no 3rd option on pdvd
sorry for quick reply. using on screen keyboard to type

I modded the EDIDs you posted. Anyway it doesn't matter. Have you set "2.3.4 Auto Surround Mode" to "OFF" in the DENON?
post #783 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

I modded the EDIDs you posted. Anyway it doesn't matter. Have you set "2.3.4 Auto Surround Mode" to "OFF" in the DENON?

Hi Tulli,

First off let me say thanks for taking the time to look at this.
secondly, I have just checked again and it is set to off.

I have tested the amp with another blu-ray player and DTS-HD and Dolby HD both get outputted and light up the blue light on the front of the amp (such a pretty light hehe)

Maybe it because its a new card (5570 MSI)!!

Cheers
post #784 of 3568
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kliving View Post
Tulli,
Can you check the EDID for the Onkyo HT-R670 again. You had check previously and mentioned that the reciever was good to go. However, I still cannot get HD audio (both DTS MSTR HD & TrueHD) to bitstream.

Setup:
Asus 780G Mobo
4Gb RAM
LG BD/HD DVD combo drive
Powercolor ATI 5450 running Catalyst 10.2
Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit (fresh install)
TMT Platinum v.170 (fresh install)
Onkyo HT-R670 (part of HTiB S6200)

Summary:
No DTS MSTR HD or Dobly True HD is bit-streamed to Onkyo. TMT3 audio is set to HDMI Primary Source with no sound and sometimes causes stuttering in playback. When I set it to DTS or Dolby mixing audio returns and playbck is fine. Tried EDID override per AVS forums to no avail. Also, the receiver worked perfectly via Xonar Slim 1.3. I've also been careful to make sure the HD track was selected in the BD movie menu. In Windows I have made sure that the ATI HD audio controller was selected and configured properly (even has DTS HD and Dolby True HD listed as supported formats in the Properties tab) but still nothing. However, in the properties tab of the ATI HD Audio controller I do not see 192Khz support, why would that not be listed and could this be the problem?
The TrueHD descriptor has the necessary sample rates set for bitstreaming. Anyway I modified it so that all sample rates are set. See if it makes any difference.

 

Panasonic PT-AX200U - ONKYO HT-R670.zip 1.2314453125k . file
post #785 of 3568
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pbathuk View Post

Hi Tulli,

First off let me say thanks for taking the time to look at this.
secondly, I have just checked again and it is set to off.

I have tested the amp with another blu-ray player and DTS-HD and Dolby HD both get outputted and light up the blue light on the front of the amp (such a pretty light hehe)

Maybe it because its a new card (5570 MSI)!!

Cheers

Well, there's nothing left but connecting to a different HDMI port on the DENON! Frankly, I don't know ...
post #786 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

The TrueHD descriptor has the necessary sample rates set for bitstreaming. Anyway I modified it so that all sample rates are set. See if it makes any difference.

Thanks a bunch. I'll give it a try shortly. Additionally, do you think that the fact that 192kHz doesn't show up on the properties tab of the ATI HD controller has anything to do with it? It says DTS HD and TrueHD are support formats but then it fails to list 192kHz which seems weird. Also, I am no longer using the Panasonic projector. Is that going to matter with this new EDID?
post #787 of 3568
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kliving View Post

Thanks a bunch. I'll give it a try shortly. Additionally, do you think that the fact that 192kHz doesn't show up on the properties tab of the ATI HD controller has anything to do with it? It says DTS HD and TrueHD are support formats but then it fails to list 192kHz which seems weird. Also, I am no longer using the Panasonic projector. Is that going to matter with this new EDID?

The Onkyo EDID has the 192khz set for DTS HD and TrueHD, so that could be a problem indeed.

If your current display device or similar is on the 1st. post list you could just try it now, regardless of the AVR part.
post #788 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Well, there's nothing left but connecting to a different HDMI port on the DENON! Frankly, I don't know ...

Cheers man, Will try another port or two. hopefully will help!
Luckily have 3 HDMI inputs, so one should work.......... (or I can hope)

Does each HDMI Port have a EDID number or is the fix about the TV display more than the AMP?

Would it be worth me trying the Catalyst 10.3a?

Cheers
post #789 of 3568
Thread Starter 
No, the EDID identifies a device. The fix is for the AVR flawed HD audio descriptors and could require the display device EDID data when this is not correctly repeated by the AVR.

10.3a didn't make any difference for me.
post #790 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

No, the EDID identifies a device. The fix is for the AVR flawed HD audio descriptors and could require the display device EDID data when this is not correctly repeated by the AVR.

10.3a didn't make any difference for me.

well it looks like it dont want to work on my sys
post #791 of 3568
Hi all,

Just a quick thank you to Tulli for the EDID fix, and to Andy0 for the GPU clock rate fix - these two pieces of advice seem (touch wood) to have resolved my terrible playback issues. Just for the benefit of any novices, I'm clarified below what my issues were, with the solutions.

System:
Windows 7 64-bit, running on a P4 3GHz
CoreAVC installed for MKV playback, through Windows Media Player
ATI 5670 connected via HDMI to my Sony STR-KS100 Amp, and then from there via HDMI to my Sony 46" Bravia W2000
ATI driver is 10.3a

Issue: After installing card, playing any movie file resulted in audio dropping out constantly, or long silences, or terrible popping/static noises. Problem seemed to be compounded if I moved the mouse, which suggested to me the CPU was stressed, yet it was running at about 40%. What I didn't notice, was the graphics card fan going to full speed during video playback.

Solution 1 - Ensure streaming via Amp was glitchfree.

a) Ensured that the sound system was using HD driver by going to Start->Run->Sound and making the ATI HD driver the 'default', instead of my SoundMax, by rightclicking and choosing Default. I also configured the speakers in the same way, to 5.1 after going through the tests (also on right click menu)
b) Applied Tulli's EDID fix by downloading the Sony W2000/Sony Amp EDID example from the front page of his thread. Installed that file as the monitor, and I could then see a full list of supported formats in the Sound->ATI HDMI Output Properties ->Supported Formats tab. This got me to the point where static was resolved, and movies seemed to play audio alright if I didn't touch the mouse or do anything other than play the movie (95% of film had no dropouts).

Solution 2 - Resolve dropouts due to GPU changing clockspeeds.
Audio dropouts finally resolved by applying Andy0's advice in a thread coming off Tulli's, to stop the graphics card 'speeding up' when the movie started playing, which was making the Sony Amp display have a fit, during the sound playback. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post17884791

Thanks all, much happier now!
post #792 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

The Onkyo EDID has the 192khz set for DTS HD and TrueHD, so that could be a problem indeed.

If your current display device or similar is on the 1st. post list you could just try it now, regardless of the AVR part.

Okay, so it sounds like the EDID is not the source of the problem. Hoever, it's sounding more and more like a driver problem. The thing that doesn't make sense is I know I have a similar config to others that don't seem to have any difficulties. My assumption at this point is that the problem must have to do with the fact that the ATI HDMI Output Properties Tab, Supported Formats tab does not list 192kHz as a supported sample rate(see attachment). Has anyone seen this? Can anyone jump into the properties tab and confirm that they do have 192kHz as supported?
LL
post #793 of 3568
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kliving View Post

Okay, so it sounds like the EDID is not the source of the problem. Hoever, it's sounding more and more like a driver problem. The thing that doesn't make sense is I know I have a similar config to others that don't seem to have any difficulties. My assumption at this point is that the problem must have to do with the fact that the ATI HDMI Output Properties Tab, Supported Formats tab does not list 192kHz as a supported sample rate(see attachment). Has anyone seen this? Can anyone jump into the properties tab and confirm that they do have 192kHz as supported?



Your driver installation is corrupted somehow?
LL
post #794 of 3568
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pbathuk View Post

well it looks like it dont want to work on my sys

Your problem could be HDCP related after all. I found this post intriguing in this regard.

So maybe a longer HDMI cable is the solution! (c'mon DENON!)
post #795 of 3568
Your driver installation is corrupted somehow?[/quote]

It appears so, but I have no idea why. I installed CCC 10.2 on a fresh install of Windows 7 32bit.
post #796 of 3568
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kliving View Post

It appears so, but I have no idea why. I installed CCC 10.2 on a fresh install of Windows 7 32bit.

What about a HDCP issue? Do you use AnyDVDHD? Do you want to try the "crazy" alternative of a longer HDMI cable?
post #797 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

What about a HDCP issue? Do you use AnyDVDHD? Do you want to try the "crazy" alternative of a longer HDMI cable?

What is the HDCP issue you speak of? I should be HDCP compliant across the board. I do have AnydvdHD but I'm not sure it was running when I was trying to bitstream as of late. Additionally, I will try the longer HDMI cable alternative as well and report back. I'll try anything at this point, but I'm still baffled as to why 192kHz wouldn't be list as a support sample rate. I'm wondering if I should try to install using the Powercolor install disc that came with the HD 5450.
post #798 of 3568
Can anybody help me? I can only select 60hz for my desktop resolution using my HD5450. i have tried adding custom ones in CCC but they dont work. I have tried setting them in ccc and on the windows desktop. I am using Windows 7, hdmi to My Sony DA2400ES. with one of Tulli's great EDID mods for the HD auidio to work, i didn't check which resolutions i had before the mod as i was still setting it all up. My t.v. and amp do support 1080/24p though as i can get it from my PCH and my stand alone Blu-Ray player.

Thanks
post #799 of 3568
Thread Starter 
Do you have the "Enable GPU scaling" option enabled in CCC . If so, disable it.
post #800 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Do you have the "Enable GPU scaling" option enabled in CCC . If so, disable it.

No, i checked that.
post #801 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kliving View Post

What is the HDCP issue you speak of? I should be HDCP compliant across the board. I do have AnydvdHD but I'm not sure it was running when I was trying to bitstream as of late. Additionally, I am not familiar with the longer HDMI cable alternative. Please advise, I'll try anything at this point, but I'm still baffled as to why 192kHz wouldn't be list as a support sample rate. I'm wondering if I should try to install using the Powercolor install disc that came with the HD 5450.

Now you've got me thinking. I know I've got an HDMI 1.3b cable going from the 5450 to the Onkyo but I'm not sure of the HDMI cable going from the Onkyo to my Samsung T260HD monitor, it could be an old 1.2 or something. Perhaps that is the problem, doesn't seem likely though as the audio never make it to the monitor anyway.
post #802 of 3568
Tulli,
Thanks for your help. I'll try different HDMI cables (longer, etc.) and AnyDVDHD to see if I can isolate this to a HDCP problem. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll report back once I've tested.
post #803 of 3568
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knigh Templar View Post

No, i checked that.

This the video block of the EDID mod I made for your setup (Sony KDL-46D3500 - SONY STR-DA2400ES):

(132-148) Video Data Block

1920x1080p @ 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720x480p @ 59.94/60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
1440x480p @ 59.94/60Hz (16:9, 16:27 or 32:27³ )
1280x720p @ 59.94/60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720x576p @ 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
1440x576p @ 50Hz (16:9, 32:45 or 64:45³ ))
1280x720p @ 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080i @ 59.94/60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080i @ 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080p @ 23.97/24Hz - HDTV(16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080p @ 59.94/60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720x576p @ 50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
1440x576p @ 50Hz (4:3, 8:45 or 16:15³ )
720x480p @ 59.94/60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
1440x480p @ 59.94/60Hz (4:3, 4:9 or 8:9³ )
640x480p @ 59.94/60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 1:1)

Are you sure you have this mod installed. I would uninstall the EDID override with full cleanup (see section 5 in 1st. post) and then reinstall.
post #804 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Your problem could be HDCP related after all. I found this post intriguing in this regard.

So maybe a longer HDMI cable is the solution! (c'mon DENON!)

Well I have had a revelation

Decided to try TMT3 Trial with DTS-HD and with catalyst 10.3a drivers, EDID (custom mod you did) it now outputs correctly
PowerDVD10 ultra still does not work, so have emailed them to ask why, as its not drivers / EDID now, its powerDVD being an arse.
Pity I brought it the other day, other wise would have tryed to get a cheap copy of TMT.

Cheers for all your help, I will let you know if I get anywhere with PowerDVD 10

Cheers
post #805 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

This the video block of the EDID mod I made for your setup (Sony KDL-46D3500 - SONY STR-DA2400ES):

(132-148) Video Data Block

1920x1080p @ 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720x480p @ 59.94/60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
1440x480p @ 59.94/60Hz (16:9, 16:27 or 32:27³ )
1280x720p @ 59.94/60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720x576p @ 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
1440x576p @ 50Hz (16:9, 32:45 or 64:45³ ))
1280x720p @ 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080i @ 59.94/60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080i @ 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080p @ 23.97/24Hz - HDTV(16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080p @ 59.94/60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720x576p @ 50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
1440x576p @ 50Hz (4:3, 8:45 or 16:15³ )
720x480p @ 59.94/60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
1440x480p @ 59.94/60Hz (4:3, 4:9 or 8:9³ )
640x480p @ 59.94/60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 1:1)

Are you sure you have this mod installed. I would uninstall the EDID override with full cleanup (see section 5 in 1st. post) and then reinstall.

Thanks, will have a look when i get home from work.
post #806 of 3568
Hi all,

The "Sony KDS-55A3000 - ONKYO TX-SR805" EDID override got bit-streaming working for me from my ATI HD5450 to my Denon AVR-988 under 64-bit Win7!

However, I actually have a KDS-55A2000 that doesn't support 1080p24 (bought it 3 months too early!), only 1080p60. Is this something I can fix in the .inf file, or do I need to get a custom one made?

Also, I created a Custom HDTV format of 1840x1044 @60 Hz in CCC starting from 1080p60 standard. This is the resolution I used successfully on my previous Nvidia 8400GS. When I was done and hit Apply Format my TV went black and said it was being fed an unsupported format. Who was the ATI genius that implemented this without a 15 second timeout in case you dorked something up? I eventually figured out that unplugging and replugging the HDMI cable into the TV would get me back to a supported resolution. However, I can't find a way to delete the custom resolution and even after selecting 1080p60 standard and hitting Apply Format about half the time it resumes from standby it's in an unsupported format. Anybody know how to fix this?

Thanks!

-John
post #807 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

hmm, are you sure the HDMI connection is OK? Have you tried swapping the HDMI cable?

I don't understand why a "Realtek HDMI Output" showed up. But from CalgaryRunner's case it's clear that the onboard audio does not affect the ATI HDMI audio driver so, re-enable it in the bios and check that the 2 audio devices are OK. The ATI HDMI driver must show as plugged-in.

Hi Tulli,

I didn't enable the onboard - but I did try uninstalling the ATI drivers again - and got caught in that loop of windows restores again. But after one of the restores, this time I used the driver cleaner utility to also delete all the ati drivers - then I reboot - and then got rid of the restores - and was able to install ATI 10.2 drivers again - and whalla - this time it worked! 5.1 with DVD's and BluRay using PowerDVD 10.

The only odd thing now, is the settings in PowerDVD do not "stick" - every time I put a Blu Ray in, I have to keep going back into settings and clicking that third audio option (which wasn't there before).

Thanks for all your help on this!
post #808 of 3568
a folder named RTCOM in win\\system32 and del it .I blew up my Both Power DVD and Corel 10 by actually turning on the audio in bios my mistake event log pointed to that folder which is not cleaned my driver sweeper
post #809 of 3568
Has any one captured the audio EDID from a receiver that only does Dolby Digital and DTS
post #810 of 3568
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

This the video block of the EDID mod I made for your setup (Sony KDL-46D3500 - SONY STR-DA2400ES):

(132-148) Video Data Block

1920x1080p @ 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720x480p @ 59.94/60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)
1440x480p @ 59.94/60Hz (16:9, 16:27 or 32:27³ )
1280x720p @ 59.94/60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720x576p @ 50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)
1440x576p @ 50Hz (16:9, 32:45 or 64:45³ ))
1280x720p @ 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080i @ 59.94/60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080i @ 50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080p @ 23.97/24Hz - HDTV(16:9, 1:1)
1920x1080p @ 59.94/60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)
720x576p @ 50Hz - EDTV (4:3, 16:15)
1440x576p @ 50Hz (4:3, 8:45 or 16:15³ )
720x480p @ 59.94/60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)
1440x480p @ 59.94/60Hz (4:3, 4:9 or 8:9³ )
640x480p @ 59.94/60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 1:1)

Are you sure you have this mod installed. I would uninstall the EDID override with full cleanup (see section 5 in 1st. post) and then reinstall.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knigh Templar View Post

Thanks, will have a look when i get home from work.

Yes mate it is that mod i have installed. I have cleaned it up and i re-installed the mod and rebooted with the same results.

When i go to CCC and configure display, i have the resolutions there and i can change resolutions. The problem is the refresh rate dont seem to change. When i go from 1920x1080@60hz to 1920x1080@24hz and press apply nothing happens but when i drop down on the resolution it works. It's like the refresh rate is locked somehow??
I am checking this by pressing the info button on the t.v. to see if 1080/24p is displayed, is there an app that can quickly report the current resolution? That way i can see if 50hz works o.k.?

Maybe i could re-install the graphics card, is there a way to stop windows recognizing and installing it's own driver on restart.
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