The Official KDL....EX700 Thread - Page 74

Last week I received the 700 (LED) (A replacement for one of our two defective sets). Amazing picture! Yesterday I received the 2nd replacement, 500 (CCFL) The PQ is in my opinion washed out and lacks detail compared to the 700 set. I called Sony this morning to see about exchanging it. Sony (offshore support) said "No exhange is possible". I'm kind of bummed as I would have gladly paid the difference for the 700. I expected the PQ to be roughly the same as the major difference is the backlighting technology. Guess I was wrong

I am surprised as no one that has tried both TV's in the 500 topic seem to prefer the PQ of the 700 over the 500. I am thrilled with my 60EX700, so I can't complain.

Have you tried the settings as suggested by some of the guys such as serialmike?

I've tried the different settings on the 500. The 700 just has better detail in the picture.

Better detail...hmmm!

Could the fact that the 500EX is using the Bravia Engine 2 vs. the Bravia Engine 3 in the EX700 could cause a difference?

BRAVIA ENGINE 3
While the latest BRAVIA ENGINE 3 builds on tried and tested BRAVIA ENGINE technology, it does so with the advantage of a new chipset and picture processing software. 

This new technology has allowed BRAVIA ENGINE to improve - even in respect to its own dazzling performance: 

Contrast. Increased depth and clarity, as well as new light control technology to control peak brightness levels, means stunning images even on the brightest of scenes. 

Colours. New colour histogram technology detects and optimises overall colour distribution of each frame. This technology delivers breathtaking colour by making millions of improvements to each frame before you even see it. 

Detail. Advanced Noise Reduction lies behind BRAVIA's ability to show you every blade of grass on a football pitch and really put you at the heart of the action.

BRAVIA ENGINE 2 PRO
Adding further to the BRAVIA ENGINE 2 capabilities, BRAVIA ENGINE 2 PRO adds Digital Reality Creation which uses unique algorithms to upscale Standard Definition (SD), HD ready and even 1080i signals to Full High Definition 1080p. 

The results are stunning, no matter what the input format.

BRAVIA ENGINE 2
Based on the highly successful BRAVIA ENGINE, this second generation of the processor (BE2) adds in a Full Digital Processor and four new stages to increase contrast, improve detail and straighten diagonal lines.

Even though power consumption may not be a priority in choosing between the 500 and the 700 series, it should be factor. I, too, looked carefully at these two sets, in the 60" versions. To be quite honest, I could not see a major difference between the two, with perhaps the 500 having a little bit better viewing angle. But when I was going back and forth between the two, I did notice a big difference in feeling the heat being generated while standing in front of each one.

I looked at the wattage consumption on both these models, and they are significantly different: The 60EX500 uses 425 watts while the 60EX700 uses only 208 watts. Our TV is on about 12 hours a day (conservatively, maybe more). That equates to a 950 kWh difference per year of consumption (425-208)x12x365/1000. Our electricity is based on "Tier 3" rates here in So Cal, at $0.24/kWh, which means $228 per year of savings. If we have this TV for the next 10 years (why not?) and accounting for a modest increase of inflation, this could easily be a $3000 SAVINGS in electricity. This also doesn't include any extra A/C needed to offset the heat that is produced (although it might be offset by warming a chilly room in the winter).

So, even though I agree that PQ is much more important than the other factors you mentioned, when the PQ is negligibly different in my opinion between these two models, the energy consumption does indeed make a significant difference, is much less expensive to run, and is the better environmental choice.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, with the 700 series now being discontinued, I'm wondering whether to wait for the 710, or see if the prices on the 700 will go down even further. The 500 is out of consideration.

here in So Cal, at $0.24/kWh>>>
Man, if I had to pay that high of a rate, I would be feeling the way you do. Here in N. Texas, I just switched electricity providers for a 1 yr fixed @ $0.08/kWh.

PG&E "Tier 3" rates here in No Cal, is at $0.39/kWh.

But we don't have to run the A/C 24/7

Why are there two on/off power buttons on the remote? All of the info. I can find indicates they both turn the set on and off (to standby) There must be something I'm missing

Nope. They both just turn the set on and off. Weird, though, having an on/off button on the back.

That is strange! I would have thought one button would turn the set completely off, the other to standby.

Theres a good chance I may be getting the KDL-40EX700 at a decent price. Does anyone have experience with the 40"? What are your thoughts?

So I searched the entire forum for properly calibrating my KDL46EX700 but could not find serialmike's settings or anyone else's settings for that matter? Can anyone please re-post them or direct me to what page it is on?

Thanks guys!

Here's some.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post19123102

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post19113791

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post19086989

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post18991714

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post18984600

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post18983736

Serialmike's EX500 settings.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post18869413

Does anyone have any pro calibration setting for the 60" EX700 yet?
I'm using modified Serialmike settings except for grayscale, which I have left alone.

I haven't seen any yet, Fred.

Hello all,
I just purchased a Sony KDL-60EX700 and can't find dicrete power and input codes for a HTM MX-800. Do they exist?
I appreciate any help.
JT

Ask him to do a write up and post it here.......

Anyone ever have the addition of a channel to favorites ignored? I tried with & without the guide. Analog (NTSC) cable seems to work, digital cable (QAM256) doesn't. I only have six stations on the favorites display.

There are discrete power and input codes. I have them for JP1-style remotes. The power codes are the same as any other Sony TV. Some of the inputs are the same as basic Sony, others are a bit weirder.

This is the JP1 file for the KeymapMaster program. I don't know if there is anything that you can use to figure it out for your MX800.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dl...e&file_id=8301

Can someone who uses EX700/701 with HTPC comment on their experience?

1) Picture displays through HDMI from pc on this set without overscan and native 1:1 pixel mapping? Font is clear?
2) MKV files play on the set (given a competent HTPC) works well without lag or voice offsync?

Thanks,

Yes to all.

Need help!!!

I have the tv inputting from my HDMI out on my video card in the computer (into HDMI 4 which shares the sound stereo mini jack). I also have the stereo mini jack output from computer into the stereo mini. check, and check.

My problem is, the audio only plays through the tv when i have the computer screen as the video screen selection, and if i switch to the tv as the monitor, it shuts the audio off coming out of the tv.

I dont get it- it must be auto switching to trying to use HDMI in sound, but if I power the tv off quickly and power back on, the sound plays for a second or 2 with the video on the screen, then sound shuts off.

It also WORKED the first time I did this, i was playing itunes, and had the comp on the tv screen, then I went to try and movie and the sound stopped working at the same time. Please help

TOTALLY confused.

This seems more like it's a computer issue? The computer is turning off the audio when the output is set to the TV?

I finally got around to trying the HDMI connection to my cable box (actually using a DVI to HDMI cable as it's an old DCT-6412 P2).

When using the component input, 480i had a much higher brightness (black level) than other resolutions. There was no way to adjust it as all resolutions share the same settings. It is not just the box, as my previous DVD player (since replaced by BluRay) also did the same on the other component input.

Since switching to HDMI (input 4 in this case), there is no difference in black level between 480i and 1080i. I have adjusted the video settings to be the same as what the component connection was using. To be honest, other than the 480i issue, I don't notice much difference between component and HDMI. But then, cable/broadcast/satellite is so heavily compressed to begin with...

I don't believe it is the computer because I can listen to sound out of headphones at the same time as the tv is used as the monitor.

Had the 60"EX700 for about 3 weeks & we're very pleased. Finally got around to calibrating the set using the EyeOne LT, DVE, ColorHCFR, AVS HD 709 test disc and a Sony BDP-S300 bluray player. Also did this in a totally dark room. I am also NOT a professional calibrator but just someone who wanted better results than the DVE or other calibration discs alone will give you although they are a good starting point. Here are my settings (your results may vary)

Picture Mode- Custom
Backlight-4
Picture- 70
Brightness- 48
Color- 48
Hue- 0
Color Temp- Warm2
Sharpness- 3
Noise Reduction- Off
MPG Noise Red- Off
MotionFlow- Standard
Cinemotion- Off

Advanced Settings
Black Corrector- OFF
Adv Contrast Enhancer- Off
Gamma- 0
Auto Light Limiter Off
Clear White- Off
Live Color- Off


White Balance-
RGain 0
GGain -19
BGain -16
RBias +5
GBias +4
BBias -1

Picture size-Full Pixel
Ambient Sensor- Off
Power Savings Off

Has anyone done any detailed exploration of the service menu on the EX700 and do you know if there are settings to set the primary & secondary colors to conform to the standard?

Recently purchased a 46" EX700 and very pleased - I see a lot of different settings and wondered if I can use the setting of a 52" or 60" on a 46" TV?

Thanks

You can use the settings from whatever "cut and pasted" to whatever.
That isn't the same as calibrating a TV.

You might check out some calibration threads and/or hire a calibrator to see what it involves.
Another option is a $25 AV calibration DVD/BR for the basics.

Mike