Samsung BD-C6500 Bluray Player------ - Page 45

Bought one of these last night. I was looking for a Blu-ray player to use instead of my old PS3 fat. Hooked up to a Yamama RX-v667 and a Samsung Plasma.

I bought this strictly to play Blurays and DVD's, the Netflix app and Pandora, so not too concerned with all the other file types. Wanted to be able to bitstream my audio to take advantage of the processing power of my Yamaha, which I couldn't do with the old PS3 fat.

Hooked it up last night and couldn't be happier. Set up took 5 minutes, interface was intuitive and very simple. Wireless connection was perfect from the start and hooked up with no issues. Netflix streaming is fantastic and the picture quality of the HD movies or shows is far superior to the Netflix app on the PS3.

Watched a Bluray and the picture quality was fantastic. Seemed much brighter and more clear than the PS3. The audio going through the Yammy was awesome.

Just wanted to throw my experience out here... I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this to anyone.

I got this for my daughter at Christmas. They have kids and it gets a lot of use. Zero issues with BD's, DVD's. They stream 5+ films from Netflix each week using wireless. It's no Oppo, but for the price... hard to beat.

I have an external Toshiba USB 3.0 NTFS formatted hard drive connected to my bd-c6500. I've been backup up DVD's and converting them to MKV via handbrake and playing them back and fast forwarding through them flawlessly.

I wanted to do quick uncompressed backups of blu-rays, so I'm using Makemkv and they look and play back great...the only problem is I can't fast forward or skip through any of these. The player hangs as soon as I hit the fast forward or skip button and have to power the unit off and back on to do anything. Same thing happens if I go into tools and try to manually type in a time to jump to.

Is anyone successfully able to create an uncompressed backup of a blu-ray on a hard drive and fast forward through it? If so, what could I be doing differently?

I had the exact same results with MakeMKV and Handbrake. MakeMKV is quick and convenient, and it automatically copies all the audio tracks from the DVD to the MKV file. But the files it makes don't work properly with the Samsung player. The player doesn't actually freeze when you FF or skip - it just seems that way. If you try a short MKV file, you'll find that it actually seems to be skipping forward internally at high speed looking for a time index in the file that it never finds. It unfreezes when it hits the end of file, but on a long movie that takes longer that you'd be willing to wait. There are no adjustable parameters in MakeMKV, so I don't think anything can be done with the current version.

The MKV files made by Handbrake work fine, on the other hand.

MKV files made by Aiseesoft Total Video Converter don't work at all - audio plays briefly with no video and then the player reports Unsupported Format.

Thanks! At least I know it's not something I'm doing wrong. There's no setting in Handbrake to create an MKV without completely re-encoding the whole movie, correct? Is there a preferable setting that doesn't take such a long time to go through that is close to the process Makemkv uses?

I haven't found any way to make Handbrake copy the source video with original compression (i.e., MPEG-2 for DVD). But it only takes about 30 minutes to compress a DVD move using H.264 on my dual-core laptop. You might try MKVMerge instead, which builds MKV files from source tracks without re-encoding.

Although I got a lemon on this model, I still played the odds when buying one for my father-in-law for a present and got him the same model. When it works, I still feel this is a great player. I ran some tests on his unit to see if it had the same quirks as mine, and alas, it also freezes consistently on standard DVDs. Namely, when you first begin the DVD and it plays through the FBI warnings and other standard fare, it freezes on the first screen, whatever it may be. Usually it's the blue screen about the copyright protection of the movie. Anyways, it always works on the second try after turning the player off and back on. What a pain, and he doesn't have any blu-rays so he'll be watching mostly standard DVDs.

Now I'm just wondering if I should exchange the player from Amazon for a new one and see if yet a 3rd player has the same deficiency.

Anyone else with this problem?

I have the same problem with dvds. Seems like it started happeningfrom one of the recent firmwares. Saamsung should really fix this and get a ne fiemware out.

MakeMKV and Handbrake use completely different processes to make MKVs. MakeMKV doesn't do any encoding. It takes the MPEG-2 video that's in the VOBs of a Video_TS and puts them in an MKV container. It really is like taking files out of one folder and putting them into another.

Handbrake doesn't do that. It re-encodes the MPEG-2 into H.264, and you want it to. That 1.7GB MPEG-2 file is 1.7GB because MPEG-2's compression sucks. Handbrake takes a lot longer to work because it's doing more than making a copy.

That the C6500 won't happily FF/RW MakeMKV-made files isn't MakeMKV's fault. C6500 just sucks at this. When it came out, the C6500 didn't play MakeMKV-made files at all. So Samsung's made a bit of progress, but I don't expect them to make a whole lot more.

Streaming support is a bit of an afterthought, 'cause let's face it, very few people actually use this feature. If you want to use the C6500 for playback, you have to work within its limits. MakeMKV (and MKVMerge, which is gonna make files in the same way) is fantastic for what it does, but it works the way it does. That's the game.

Just bought this, my first Blu-ray. Bought this one to be able to get 7.1 out of my Anthem AVM20. but since it only has 5.1 analog inputs (and no HDMI), I had to contact Anthem support. Intersting answer - "only connect the Surrounds, not the rear. Specify 5.1 in the Samsung setup, which will then mix in the Rears. Then the Anthem will recognize (when in Dolby Pro Logic IIx) that and extract the Rears and use all 7.1 speakers. Interesting. Any comments?

Just thought I'd chime in here. I'm getting absolutely no where with Samsung support. Whenever I try to watch a Netflix stream on this player, it takes almost 3 minutes everytime to load. After "starting" the movie, the screen goes black and shows the title with a "loading" bar. It'll just sit there for 3 minutes before any movement happens. Then suddenly, the bar will start to load red, and within like 5 seconds the movie starts. Is this normal behavior for this player? Its got nothing to do with my Netflix service or my internet (much to the apparent disappointment of Samsung). I have a PC, Xbox, and PS3 and they all load Netflix instantly. Samsung said to reset my player to factory settings, try an ethernet connection, and increase my bandwith over 1.5mb (it's 20mb!). Also, does anybody else notice an uncessarily long delay in loading Fox BluRay's? It seems all my other BluRays are fast loading from pressing "Play" to seeing the menu, but Fox discs will just sit there for like 5 minutes doing nothing. The same is true with BD-live content. It takes forever to load. Is this all normal behavior?

When I play blu-ray disks the image will display momentary freezes. The freeze is just momentary. Audio is not affected. The player is a Samsung BD-C6500 with current firmware. The TV is a Samsung UN55C6800.

This freeze does not occur on DVDs. I have tried changing some settings without success in eliminating these pauses.

A video disk should just play back smoothly from beginning to end.

I have tried to search AVS and other resources for others with similar problems but cannot find anything that really resembles what I am seeing.

Any hints or configuration changes?

Thanks

Brad

I have a BD-C6500 and am mostly satisfied. However, during blu-ray playback the image will periodically freeze or pause for just a moment then resume. Audio seems to be unaffected. This seems to occur across a wide variety of blu-ray disks.

Firmware is up-to-date.

Has anyone else seen this affect and can recommend a solution?

You should post in that player's dedicated thread, if it has one.

I have this problem among many others. My player is 2 months old and I have a email in to Samsung Support I expect a replacement as this is ridiculous.

So far I'd have the following issues playing Blu Rays, complete lockups where the screen freezes but the timer keeps going, pauses in the movie where the audio continues then suddenly skips ahead 10-15-20 seconds (on a brand new blu ray mind you) and complete player lock ups where everything dies in the middle of a movie.

I hope they exchange without an issue and the new doesn't have this problem as this is insane

My flame shields are UP!

Just know this is going to incite the hall monitors here.

I've searched and researched wireless on this player. It requires Allshare and applies primarily to connection with the internet. I only want to connect the laptop's display to the HDTV. Since my blu ray player is "wifi ready", I'm tempted to think this may be possible.

I'm ethernet connected with my BD-C6500. But I have a roaming laptop that I'd like to be able to use as a HTPC for playing movies only. I can go through the Samsung Allnet config but that seems fraught with trouble. Must I connect to the television via the router again? Is it possible to connect my laptop wirelessly to the BD-C6500 direct?

I've read the instruction booklet and online resources for the player, but do not see how this is possible.

If anyone wants to point this out to me, AND at the same time call me an idiot for missing it in the owner's manual..... feel completely free to do so, and I will not be offended. I'm an idiot. I state that right up front. I've tried... and failed to do this on my own.

I need some help on this soon, since I believe I've pissed off another member here elsewhere (who totally deserved it), the mod posse may be hot on my trail, and my presence here, such that it is, may be perilously short.

Thank you... and Godspeed.

It is not possible to wirelessly transmit video information between a laptop or blu-ray player and display over the network.
Their SoCs don't allow the A/V information to pass through the NIC as that would open the door to piracy.

In the near future, there will be thanks to WHDI a secure wireless comms standard for the home.

That's not important, but probably of no consequence at all. Thank you very much for that head's up though. It sounds pretty conclusive. But WHDI?

Thanks for introducing me to YET ANOTHER acronym that is bound to result in 20 more mg of daily prozac. Despite an instinct to preserve my sanity, I'll look into that one.

If a simple wireless link to my blu ray player is out of the question for the time being, can you suggest any external devices that might do so with more elegance than Samsung's Allshare software (which loops back through the router)?

Is it possible to just use a pair of USB wifi dongles of some manufacture either between the USB ports of the HDTV and the laptop or the Blu Ray USB port and the laptop?

I haven't tried either of these, but maybe they are what you are looking for.

http://hsti.com/wirelessmediastick/overview

http://www.infinitec.com/ium_drive/features.php

What is your issue with using Allshare (DLNA)? If you run a server like Serviio or even just Windows 7 itself you can view your videos from your laptop through the blu-ray player. It is true that not all video formats will work equally well or at all but as long as you have an appropriate format it works fine.

If you really want to avoid the network put your videos on a USB key or drive.

the main problem I'm having is with compatible video files, subtitles, etc, via my usb port on the television (samsung's firmware for video files) and with the blu ray's same. Burned DVDs, usb sticks via the blu ray port, and usb stick direct to the televisions port, either don't play the files at all, 50 percent of the time video files I've burned return the message "no video files detected" or play without their subtitles. VLC player, and in fact two other players on my laptop, do far far far better with video files. VLC player is almost effortless in this regard, doesn't ever flinch at a file type, and always plays the subtitles. Allshare is another can of worms, I've enabled it before and didn't care for it... and it's possible that it will be just as picky about file type that the blu ray player wants to play.

So if I can reliably and easily send video/audio to the HDTV via my laptop I'll be just fine. Every effort to do so has failed me.
I have HDMI on both devices, but my Nvidia card will not feed audio in Linux. A known problem.

Both devices (laptop and HDTV) have usb ports and CAT5 ports.
Any way to just connect direct? I can't find information on the internet generally since so few laptops and HDTVs actually share these ports.

Several options I can see...
#1 use hdmi for video and spdif for audio.
#2 Get a card that will feed audio in linux then hookup via hdmi
#3 use an OS that works with your current card then hookup via hdmi

Option #1 only allows 1.5mbps audio, but odds are that's good enough for all your files anyway.

Ok, I caved.
Linux has so many nice features. But it just doesn't fit the middle ground user such as myself. It would be great for a complete beginner who just wants everything to work well out of the box, and has limited aspirations for control.
Also great for the deep computing enthusiast who wants the ultimate control that open software allows/provides.

But for the guy who mostly want's stuff to work out-of-the-box, is not extremely computer literate, yet still wants to expand many features that don't come in that box, Linux is still a xxxxxxxing nightmare at this point in time.

So I dumped Linux Mint (on this main computer anyway), went back to Windows XP Pro, and downloaded Samsung PC Share utilities. Then discovered that the Allshare utility does not exactly emulate/play files on your PC, via the blu ray player, the way your PC does, but rather in the manner that the blu ray player insists they be. Which makes sense to a computer expert, but didn't really at first to me.


So, finally, more to the point of this thread... Can anyone tell me somewhat conclusively what format that the BD-C6500 requires movie files to be burned in order to recongnize and play subtitles?

I know what the basic needs for this according to many tutorials on the web, but the Samsung seems very picky about this.

The C6500 recognizes only one form of subtitles: separate srt files. You must have a separate .srt file in the same folder with the same name as the movie file. Unfortunately you can't just create an srt file by extracting an existing video subtitle overlay track - it's a text file. There are several utilities that create an srt file by character recognition, and they all need a bit of interactive training and assistance to process a video subtitle track to srt text format correctly. Alternatively you may be able to download pre-made srt files for popular movies.

A good friend of mine recently received this player by way of an extended warranty settlement on his old dual format Samsung 5000.

The only issue he has experienced to date is a playback issue with Carlito's Way - specifically the shootout scene in the bar/poolhall. The audio drops out just prior to the action scene.

Can anyone else confirm/deny this? This title plays without isdue on my panasonic.

Thanks
Spence

Anyone else download the new firmware update 1021.4? I did and it deleted my facebook as soon as I opened the Internet Apps. Anyone have any idea what this update provides or fixes?

Ditto

Weird... the only firmware listed on the Samsung site is 1020.1, from Dec 27th 2010.

My C6500 is collecting dust in my closet right now, so I have no idea about this newest firmware update.

Well, I see the new upgrade (1021.4) with date 18 April 2011 on samsung's website, but it's listed as having a size of 0 MB and if I try to download it, it goes to an error page. Does it also happen to you or could you actually download it?

My Samsung player installed this new update tonight over the internet (i.e., I didn't download it from a website).