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post #421 of 6190
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Originally Posted by Beeper View Post

In PC mode screen settings menu:

Auto Adjustment
Select to automatically adjust the display position and phase of the
picture when the TV receives an input signal from the connected PC.

where's the smilie that bows? i'll settle for "embarassed." i greatly appreciate it. i had seen Auto Adjustment previously when tinkering, but automatically assumed it corrected color. anyhow, all is well!
post #422 of 6190
So I am exchanging my 40EX500 for the Sharp 32LE700 tomorrow morning. I really wanted to love this TV, but the uniformity is just so bad. It seems like most of you guys haven't had any problems, which is awesome, but it just feels like exchanging this for another 40EX500 is like playing the lottery, and I don't gamble. Was considering a Samsung but I read that the budget models are plagued with problems too, hence my downsizing to be able to afford some of the best PQ.

Sony has not lost me as a customer even after two bad sets with them, however. I just feel like in terms of budget TVs, they are not the best brand to go with. I will be purchasing something larger than a 40 inch in the next year and a half or so (will probably wait for 2011 models) and will consider Sony for a higher end TV, but for now, all I wanted was a cheap but good set so I needed to go with a different brand.

I hope everyone here gets what they are looking for with the EX500! It is an amazing value if you manage to get one without flaws.
post #423 of 6190
Just got my 55ex500 and so far so good. Hopefully it lasts!
post #424 of 6190
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Originally Posted by Dan134 View Post

So I am exchanging my 40EX500 for the Sharp 32LE700 tomorrow morning. I really wanted to love this TV, but the uniformity is just so bad. It seems like most of you guys haven't had any problems, which is awesome, but it just feels like exchanging this for another 40EX500 is like playing the lottery, and I don't gamble. Was considering a Samsung but I read that the budget models are plagued with problems too, hence my downsizing to be able to afford some of the best PQ.

Sony has not lost me as a customer even after two bad sets with them, however. I just feel like in terms of budget TVs, they are not the best brand to go with. I will be purchasing something larger than a 40 inch in the next year and a half or so (will probably wait for 2011 models) and will consider Sony for a higher end TV, but for now, all I wanted was a cheap but good set so I needed to go with a different brand.

I hope everyone here gets what they are looking for with the EX500! It is an amazing value if you manage to get one without flaws.

It appears that it is a lottery almost when buying a tv now when it comes to quality. It seems each one is different in terms of quality and it may take 1, 2, 3 or more to get one built right. Does not say so much for Sony quality or other brands. People on the EX700 board are having the same issues. One tv is good, the next one is not so good. I guess it is a sign of the times. Quality is not number one, quantity is.

Very frustrating for consumers. I notice it now in many products. I am happy my 55EX501 was fine, but I bet the next one could not be. Good thing most people do not read these forums or there would be a lot more returns Most people would not even notice these things and that is what the companies hope for today.
post #425 of 6190
took the plunge and got a 46ex500 yesterday...wow amazing tv. bluray looks awesome. the gray bezel is pretty much black, and not as annoying as in store. i did notice tiny tiny dimples on the black size bezel, one on each side about 5" down from the top, but i only saw them when i had my window open, and i will live with it.

don't hesitate on the factory bezel!
post #426 of 6190
We picked up our 40" a week ago and I'm loving it so far. I hooked up a Trek OTA antenna on Wednesday and the picture is beautiful. Blu-ray is incredible via the PS3. Definitely miles ahead of my 50" SXRD in the living room.

Anyway, I spent some time with the DVE disc and the results are great! I started with the CNET settings for the W5100 like most of you, and tweak ever so slightly using the disc to perfect it a bit:

Backlight: 1
Picture: 92
Brightness: 52
Color: 49 (using filters)
Hue: 0
Color Temp: Neutral
Sharpness Min
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Motionflow: Off
Cinemotion: Off
Ambient Sensor: Off

That last one is a biggy. I spent a lot of time working with the Picture and Brightness and ended up with graying whites. As soon as I turned off the sensor, the color was back! When the backlight is set to 1, it adjusts the colors and brightness instead, so make sure to turn that "feature" off, less you'll ruin your picture!

Very impressed!
post #427 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshd2012 View Post

We picked up our 40" a week ago and I'm loving it so far. I hooked up a Trek OTA antenna on Wednesday and the picture is beautiful. Blu-ray is incredible via the PS3. Definitely miles ahead of my 50" SXRD in the living room.

Anyway, I spent some time with the DVE disc and the results are great! I started with the CNET settings for the W5100 like most of you, and tweak ever so slightly using the disc to perfect it a bit:

Backlight: 1
Picture: 92
Brightness: 52
Color: 49 (using filters)
Hue: 0
Color Temp: Neutral
Sharpness Min
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Motionflow: Off
Cinemotion: Off
Ambient Sensor: Off

That last one is a biggy. I spent a lot of time working with the Picture and Brightness and ended up with graying whites. As soon as I turned off the sensor, the color was back! When the backlight is set to 1, it adjusts the colors and brightness instead, so make sure to turn that "feature" off, less you'll ruin your picture!

Very impressed!

is that using "custom"? i will try those settings later, i was too amazed by out of box picture (been using a rca 20" that is blurry"...so this is quite satisfying.
post #428 of 6190
Is it better to connect a computer to the TV via the HDMI or the RGB? I don't have a DVI-HDMI cable to test for myself, just an RGB cable. I'd appreciate any input from someone who's tried both.
post #429 of 6190
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Originally Posted by rwb1921 View Post

It appears that it is a lottery almost when buying a tv now when it comes to quality. It seems each one is different in terms of quality and it may take 1, 2, 3 or more to get one built right. Does not say so much for Sony quality or other brands. People on the EX700 board are having the same issues. One tv is good, the next one is not so good. I guess it is a sign of the times. Quality is not number one, quantity is.

Very frustrating for consumers. I notice it now in many products. I am happy my 55EX501 was fine, but I bet the next one could not be. Good thing most people do not read these forums or there would be a lot more returns Most people would not even notice these things and that is what the companies hope for today.

Very true. Though, I have always been extremely picky and even before visiting these forums, I would have still returned the set. With my first small LCD (and LG) I ended up exchanging it for the same one, and then exchanged it again for a Samsung. This was nearly three years ago, and the exchange was due to an auto dimming feature that could not be disabled.

One of my mistakes was buying a TV online (to save money). This is not what I will be doing with my next TV. Will most likely purchase from a high-end store that possibly allows me to view the set before taking it home.

It's really too bad about the EX500...I absolutely love the set until the sun goes down, and then when that happens, watching anything dark looks messy. This is with ambient light, mind you. If I had purchased at a store that allowed me to view the unit before taking it home, I would totally go with the EX500 as it is probably the best value among sets of this size.

The set I am exchanging with is supposed to have amazing quality that is generally consistent. I hope going down to a 32 isn't too bad (though I lived with my 23 inch as a primary TV for years until a month ago).
post #430 of 6190
I received the KDL55EX500 yesterday as part of a replacement offer from Sony for a failed Grand Wega with optical block problems. I should preface this by saying I am by no means an expert when it comes to the difference between various models. I do know what I like and I REALLY like the pq on the 500 so far.

I have not tweaked any of the settings but am going to try and fine tune it although I really like the factory settings. I don't notice the lower bezel whatsoever so don't let that stop you unless you absolutely hate it. I have it in a room with a lot of light and the piano black finish had a bit of annoying glare during the day yesterday, but I seem to have gotten used to it as I don't particularly notice it today. Keep that in mind though if you're putting it in a room with lots of light.

On my old Wega, I would definitely notice a big difference between the black levels and the bezel of the TV. Although when I compare the black level to the bezel I can notice a difference, it is very slight so i would say the black levels are very impressive.

I love the 4 HDMI ports although I was a bit worried as I thought the two side HDMI ports would be on the left side of the TV, it is actually on the other side which is perfect for my room as I can hide the cable easily. I hooked up a BD player and XBOX through HDMI although I haven't had an opportunity to try them out yet. I really like being able to edit names when labelling the video inputs, A nice touch my other set did not have.

All in all I'm really enjoying this set, a huge upgrade on my old Grand Wega (even before the huge blue blob covered most of the screen).

Edit: When I first turned on the set yesterday in the late afternoon I thought it was slightly dim, but it looked great at night and this morning. Same time today I notice it doesn't look as bright as before, so I turned off Ambient sensor and it looked perfect again. Definitely think about turning it off
post #431 of 6190
Newbie here, just received my KDL-55EX500 from Sony Exchange yesterday for a failed 55" Grand Wega and I have a question -- the TV wobbles/rocks back and forth when you hold the top and push it back and forth and does not appear to be solid on the swivel base. All 4 screws are in and tight. Does anyone elses do this too or do I have something wrong?
Thanks'
post #432 of 6190
Mine wobbles a little bit as well. I imagine it is normal as I've seen it asked a couple of times on other forums. A little wobble might be good though to prevent it falling over, kind of like how a building is made to withstand earthquakes by having more flexibility. Not sure if that even makes sense but the only reason I can think of
post #433 of 6190
Made me laugh as I just told the wife maybe it was for earthquake zones! Glad to hear mine is not the only one like that.
post #434 of 6190
Haha, great minds (or newbie ones) think alike...
post #435 of 6190
I am close to purchasing a 40ex501 from Costco but was wondering how the SD is?
I have directv and currently watch all sd channels in 4:3 on my Panasonic 32" LCD and am very happy with viewing sd this way. How is it on the Sony?
post #436 of 6190
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Originally Posted by genestoy View Post

Newbie here, just received my KDL-55EX500 from Sony Exchange yesterday for a failed 55" Grand Wega and I have a question -- the TV wobbles/rocks back and forth when you hold the top and push it back and forth and does not appear to be solid on the swivel base. All 4 screws are in and tight. Does anyone elses do this too or do I have something wrong?
Thanks'

Quote:
Originally Posted by ebeck88 View Post

Mine wobbles a little bit as well. I imagine it is normal as I've seen it asked a couple of times on other forums. A little wobble might be good though to prevent it falling over, kind of like how a building is made to withstand earthquakes by having more flexibility. Not sure if that even makes sense but the only reason I can think of

mine does this as well, and was worrying me until i saw this ...looks normal. kinda disappointing sony didnt include a micro,fiber cloth but i guess there cheap. ps3 is awesome on here, man amazing tv!

and stating again. the bezel actually looks sweet now that its in my house haha.

sidenote that i posted above. does anyone notice tiny soft dimples about 4-5" from the top on the side black bezel? only noticed it when the window was open. and looking from the side they are invisible. anyone else notice these? again impossible to see up close, im just picky, but seems fine.
post #437 of 6190
really enjoying the new tv... haven't noticed any problems that people are discussing so hopefully i'm one of the lucky ones hehehee...

J :-P
post #438 of 6190
I'm currently at work, and want to go look at some soundbars (this tv has crappy built-in speakers). Can anybody tell me whether the digital audio output is fixed or variable?
post #439 of 6190
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Originally Posted by CSonntag View Post

I'm currently at work, and want to go look at some soundbars (this tv has crappy built-in speakers). Can anybody tell me whether the digital audio output is fixed or variable?

fixed
post #440 of 6190
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Originally Posted by joshd2012 View Post

We picked up our 40" a week ago and I'm loving it so far. I hooked up a Trek OTA antenna on Wednesday and the picture is beautiful. Blu-ray is incredible via the PS3. Definitely miles ahead of my 50" SXRD in the living room.

Anyway, I spent some time with the DVE disc and the results are great! I started with the CNET settings for the W5100 like most of you, and tweak ever so slightly using the disc to perfect it a bit:

Backlight: 1
Picture: 92
Brightness: 52
Color: 49 (using filters)
Hue: 0
Color Temp: Neutral
Sharpness Min
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Motionflow: Off
Cinemotion: Off
Ambient Sensor: Off

That last one is a biggy. I spent a lot of time working with the Picture and Brightness and ended up with graying whites. As soon as I turned off the sensor, the color was back! When the backlight is set to 1, it adjusts the colors and brightness instead, so make sure to turn that "feature" off, less you'll ruin your picture!

Very impressed!

Backlight: 1? How can you see anything?
post #441 of 6190
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Originally Posted by svwindshadow View Post

fixed

crap
post #442 of 6190
I took the plunge and bought today a 55EX500 from a local electronics shop. They got a 30-day money-back policy so there's no need to worry about a ****** unit (in terms of backlight bleeding). Hopefully the new TV will be good - the decision was based purely on reviews and user comments They promised to deliver the TV by the end of the week. I will be giving a short review of Sony vs. previously owned Panasonic 50G10 plasma.
post #443 of 6190
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Originally Posted by backatcha View Post

Backlight: 1? How can you see anything?

Backlight at 1 is about right in a dark room setting. I usually put my backlight at 1 or 2 with all the lights off at night and 4 or 5 for watching during the day or with lights on at night. The backlight at higher than 2 with the lights off will start to strain my eyes after watching it for a few minutes.
post #444 of 6190
with the stand wobble, has anyone checked to see if the stand is being shipped tight enough from the factory? I didnt think to check mine, dont feel like it taking it down right now.
post #445 of 6190
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Originally Posted by MikeJ927 View Post

Backlight at 1 is about right in a dark room setting. I usually put my backlight at 1 or 2 with all the lights off at night and 4 or 5 for watching during the day or with lights on at night. The backlight at higher than 2 with the lights off will start to strain my eyes after watching it for a few minutes.

Forgive my ignorance, but isn't one of the big draws to LED displays is how bright they are? If we are talking about having to set the backlight on the EX500 to 1 or 2, what would possibly the reason to pay extra $$ on the EX700 with the LED backlighting?

I'm torn between the two models, although each day I grow closer to the EX500 over the EX700. Help me understand the backlighting though. Thanks
post #446 of 6190
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Originally Posted by joshd2012 View Post

Ambient Sensor: Off

That last one is a biggy. I spent a lot of time working with the Picture and Brightness and ended up with graying whites. As soon as I turned off the sensor, the color was back! When the backlight is set to 1, it adjusts the colors and brightness instead, so make sure to turn that "feature" off, less you'll ruin your picture!

Very impressed!

Thank you very much for mentioning this! I was totally flummoxed on why the picture on my KDL-40EX500 looked so "washed out" until I turned off the Ambient Sensor mode. Now, the picture is crystal clear with really decent colors, too. Even 480i SD mode looks great, and when I plugged in my old Panasonic DVD-S35 DVD player with component video and full 480p mode the picture looked really good (though of course limited by the 480p resolution).
post #447 of 6190
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Originally Posted by wildside50 View Post

Is it better to connect a computer to the TV via the HDMI or the RGB? I don't have a DVI-HDMI cable to test for myself, just an RGB cable. I'd appreciate any input from someone who's tried both.

I can't address the RGB vs HDMI myself, but I can tell you that if you have a pc with the ability to output audio through the hdmi, picture quality will be great, and there will be one less (audio) line running from the pc.

My computer's video card (ATI 4850) doesn't have an HDMI port, but came with a DVI-HDMI adapter that was capable of outputting sound. It took a little playing around with settings on both the computer and the TV to get it just right, but now my wife and I can watch whatever we want from the pc.

I guess you'll have to decide for yourself whether you want to go for cable management and very best picture quality by paying 10-20 bucks for an HDMI cable (and a dvi-hdmi adapter), or whether you'd be content with what you have.

PS: for what it's worth, my xbox360 is connected to tv with RGB, and it looks fine to me.
post #448 of 6190
I know there was some discussion about what panels are in these tv's. I found this info.

32EX500-LTY32OHF01 (S-matrix LCD-Samsung)
37EX500-T37OHWO3 (AUO)
40EX500-LTY400HF06 (S-matrix LCD-Samsung)
46EX500-LTY460HJ01 (S-matrix LCD-Samsung)
55EX500-LTY550HJ01 (S-matrix LCD-Samsung)

My 55EX501 has the LTY550HJ01 panel. I checked by looking through the grill in the back of the TV
post #449 of 6190
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Originally Posted by petebert View Post

with the stand wobble, has anyone checked to see if the stand is being shipped tight enough from the factory? I didnt think to check mine, dont feel like it taking it down right now.

"tight enough"? The stand comes separately and must be installed by the buyer. Am I missing something in your question?
post #450 of 6190
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Originally Posted by desertdiesel View Post

I know there was some discussion about what panels are in these tv's. I found this info.

32EX500-LTY32OHF01 (S-matrix LCD-Samsung)
37EX500-T37OHWO3 (AUO)
40EX500-LTY400HF06 (S-matrix LCD-Samsung)
46EX500-LTY460HJ01 (S-matrix LCD-Samsung)
55EX500-LTY550HJ01 (S-matrix LCD-Samsung)

My 55EX501 has the LTY550HJ01 panel. I checked by looking through the grill in the back of the TV

So where does the S-matrix LCD panel fall in the "panel wars" hierarchy?
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