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post #4711 of 6190
Purchased a KDL46EX500 and I think it may be defective, when the television show or movie on the screen is under bright light, like sunlight it looks mostly fine. But if the scene is cloudy or set at night the color looks washed out, almost like if a black-and-white movie had been colorized in the 70's. There's also almost no shadow detail. Tried oodles of different recommended settings in this thread, tried calibrating off the Optimizers on Disney or Sony Blu-rays. It's the same with both the HDMI input from the cable box and the HDMI input from the cable box, so I don't think its a problem with my cables.

I read through some of the thread, but there are just so many pages. Has anyone else had a similar problem with their television?
post #4712 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by gary cornell View Post

I've only watched baseball on the EX500, how does it look for hockey and white ice accuracy?

I don't know about ice, but if you watched the game tonight between the Rangers and the Yankees, it couldn't look any better than it did! Especially after getting the damn Yankees to hit into six (6) double-plays!!! How sweeet it is!!!
post #4713 of 6190
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Originally Posted by hughh View Post
I don't know about ice, but if you watched the game tonight between the Rangers and the Yankees, it couldn't look any better than it did! Especially after getting the damn Yankees to hit into six (6) double-plays!!! How sweeet it is!!!
You have won the battle, you have not won the war my friend

And Hockey looks fantastic on a calibrated ex500. The color of white accuracy of the set is very accurate as is the greyscale color of white. Though the set must be calibrated or like anything else it will be off.
post #4714 of 6190
I'm still struggling to find a good set of gaming settings. Between the "Display" settings on the Xbox, the settings on the actual TV, and finally the viewng angle, I'm constantly changing them and haven't been able to enjoy the TV since the day I've bought it.
post #4715 of 6190
Hey Mike I fully agree that hockey looks just about as good as it can on this set. Also I wanted to thank you for taking the time to get the settings as good as you can then posting them for all of us to enjoy.

Elux, What kind of issue are you having with games?
post #4716 of 6190
Basically the picture is too dark. I am unable to achieve a clear, crisp, bright picture.
post #4717 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elux View Post

Basically the picture is too dark. I am unable to achieve a clear, crisp, bright picture.

Hello,
If you are not experiencing a bright Picture on Display Mode (Torch Mode), there might be a problem with your TV as the EX500 when just set to Vivid gives an ungodly bright Picture.
AD
post #4718 of 6190
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Originally Posted by Audiodork View Post

Hello,
Is the Ambient Sensor set to on? The overwhelming majority of EX500's look quite good when in a darkened Room. Especially when using a Calibration Disc. Sorry that your TV is not working properly.
Can you still Return/Exchange it?
AD

Nope, sensor off, backlight to 1 or 2, all the advanced picture settings turned to off or zero. Started with the 90/50/50 baseline and adjusted color up and down. Played around with white balance thinking it might be that, but could never find anything that didn't look unnatural.

Guess it must just be a faulty display, hopefully the store still has more in stock since the model is pretty close to being gone from stores, still have another 23 days to go on my return/exchange window. Thanks for the response.
post #4719 of 6190
Hello,
LCD's are pretty reliable. Were you able to view an EX500 on Display prior to purchase? I would just hate for you to go through the hassle of Returning and Exchanging the TV only to find the PQ remains the same.

Sometimes a TV just does not meet ones preferences. Speaking personally. the EX500 has totally altered my perception of LCD HDTV's.

I received my 55EX500 free of charge from Sony and had always used SXRD TV's and a 34XBR910 Fine Pitch Tube along with a Pioneer Kuro 5020. The Pioneer is too small for my Room. (go figure the 5 inch difference bothers me that much)

Then again, I do sit 15 Feet from my TV so I am far from optimal with a 55 Inch Display and did try to get a 60 Inch from Sony offering to pay more, but they insisted on giving me the 55EX500.

As I had not followed the advancements made with LCD's, I was expecting Black Levels to be terrible only to find that this Display really looks great.
Cheers,
AD
post #4720 of 6190
Just finished reading all 158 pages. People ask me why i have 4 tvs in my room - i say because 5 is 1 too many.
post #4721 of 6190
Dear God, Gary

I hope you didn't do the whole 158 pages in one sitting...that would be suicidal.
post #4722 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by gary cornell View Post

Just finished reading all 158 pages. People ask me why i have 4 tvs in my room - i say because 5 is 1 too many.

Gary, I am proud to present you with an honorary EX500/501 PHD. Congratulations Dr. Gary.
post #4723 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post

Gary, I am proud to present you with an honorary EX500/501 PHD. Congratulations Dr. Gary.

Of course from the Cornell University
post #4724 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post

Gary, I am proud to present you with an honorary EX500/501 PHD. Congratulations Dr. Gary.


thats priceless.
post #4725 of 6190
I just downloaded and installed the new software for the Sony KDL-46EX500. It was dated 18/4 and version is PKG4.099EUL-0108.

It says it will improve and make IPTV more stable. Anyone knows any more details?
post #4726 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post
Gary, I am proud to present you with an honorary EX500/501 PHD. Congratulations Dr. Gary.
Wow! PHD!!! Errr...is that like Pizza Hut Delivery....
post #4727 of 6190
Hi.

I am experiencing some difficulty "hearing" the TV.

When I watch a news program or commercial everything is fine. I have the volume set at 30-35.

However, when a TV movie or program comes on, I have to crank the volume up to 60-70 to hear the words that the actors are saying. When that happens, the background or the foreground music is simply too loud.

I have been playing with the settings, but have had no luck. I find myself putting on the closed caption to understand what is going on.

Does anyone else experience this? Is your volume up to the 70's to hear?
Any suggestions?

Thanks so much.

Lenore
post #4728 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenore View Post

Hi.

I am experiencing some difficulty "hearing" the TV.

When I watch a news program or commercial everything is fine. I have the volume set at 30-35.

However, when a TV movie or program comes on, I have to crank the volume up to 60-70 to hear the words that the actors are saying. When that happens, the background or the foreground music is simply too loud.

I have been playing with the settings, but have had no luck. I find myself putting on the closed caption to understand what is going on.

Does anyone else experience this? Is your volume up to the 70's to hear?
Any suggestions?

Thanks so much.

Lenore

I'm pretty sure that has to do with your media provider and how they have their compressed audio set up. I could be wrong however, I don't think it has to do with your EX...
post #4729 of 6190
While I agree with the previous answer you may want to contact Sony Support via chat at http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/sel...RECTOR=CONTACT.

Good luck.
post #4730 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elux View Post

I'm still struggling to find a good set of gaming settings. Between the "Display" settings on the Xbox, the settings on the actual TV, and finally the viewng angle, I'm constantly changing them and haven't been able to enjoy the TV since the day I've bought it.

Elux - I followed the XBox settings guide you posted a little while back and have been relatively happy with the picture quality. I use the "Game" scene and made a couple of tweaks to it.

My only complaint, which is the same thing you mentioned and I posted about previously as well, is that the picture does indeed look dark. To compensate for that I've turned the backlight and brightness up further than I'd like, and the result as expected is less than optimal but it's the only way I can see enough of the screen detail to play certain games (Assassin's Creed Brotherhood comes to mind). My room is quite bright which contributes to the issue too.
post #4731 of 6190
Would you mind sharing your settings? Anything is better than what I'm currently using.
post #4732 of 6190
Last month i purchased the 2011 46" Panasonic ST30. A flat dismal picture, very dissapointed. After looking at other 46" models, i chose the EX500 which i'll have soon. As it will be positioned next to a 50" Elite Pro110, i wanted a display that is vibrant yet natural and balanced. It's likely i'll have it professionally calibrated but that's a few weeks away.
post #4733 of 6190
Hey guys,

I purchased the 46 EX500 about a month ago. Love the set. I like a darker picture and find that it's certainly bright enough with Power Saving on and Backlight at Min. However, the Gamma is something that's confusing me. I've got the AVS calibration disc and use it rather frequently, but can't figure out how to set it properly. I actually don't "see" any difference really, although I'm sure there is one.

I've also got my White Balance set to defaults for everything - Serialmike's settings made it look a little too blue and everybody else's too red for green. I'm wondering if that's because there's some variations with different panels. Considering buying a meter, but I don't want to spend a ton of money on it when the difference is probably minimal and only somewhat noticeable.

Anybody's thoughts on any of this? My biggest concern is the Gamma.

Sorry for the long post, but one last thing. I am looking at building a stand. When I'm sitting on the couch, my head is 3' off the ground or so (eye level). How high should I build my stand for this size TV?

Thanks everybody!
post #4734 of 6190
I've had my EX500 for about four months, and it's been superb.

I find the picture to be a happy medium between the vividness of the Samsungs, and the dullness of plasmas.

Even the motion handling has been a nice surprise, with no need for the custom settings offered by Samsung and LG, which is a good thing I suppose, since the Sony doesn't have them.

My only gripes are that the QAM tuner seems kinda slow, and the Favorites feature is half-baked. There's no way to act upon the list other than adding new entries to "push" out undesired ones. The user cannot edit or reorder them individually. And if the user adds a video input to the list and desires to erase it, the only method is to add enough channels to push it out, and do a rescan as the manual advises. The rescan only erases the tuner entries.
post #4735 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathan_393 View Post

Hey guys,

I purchased the 46 EX500 about a month ago. Love the set. I like a darker picture and find that it's certainly bright enough with Power Saving on and Backlight at Min. However, the Gamma is something that's confusing me. I've got the AVS calibration disc and use it rather frequently, but can't figure out how to set it properly. I actually don't "see" any difference really, although I'm sure there is one.

I've also got my White Balance set to defaults for everything - Serialmike's settings made it look a little too blue and everybody else's too red for green. I'm wondering if that's because there's some variations with different panels. Considering buying a meter, but I don't want to spend a ton of money on it when the difference is probably minimal and only somewhat noticeable.

Anybody's thoughts on any of this? My biggest concern is the Gamma.

Sorry for the long post, but one last thing. I am looking at building a stand. When I'm sitting on the couch, my head is 3' off the ground or so (eye level). How high should I build my stand for this size TV?

Thanks everybody!

I have recently changed up my Settings on my 55EX500 and am quite pleased. I used the Settings from another Member that was Posted months ago, I wish I remember whose settings they were, but they really have brought out the best PQ yet.

I now have Gamma set to -2, Backlight 2, and these White Balance Settings: R Gain -7, G-Gain 0, B-Gain -8, R-Bias 0, G-Bias 0, B-Bias +10. Picture is 90, Brightness 52, Color 50, Hue 0, Warm 2. Sharpness Minimum.
Cheers,
AD
post #4736 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogdan View Post

OK - since some were curious, here are my final settings on my 55EX500 after a thorough calibration using a Minolta CS-200 Chroma Meter to fine tune the WB. The set is very good, among the best LCDs out there IMHO.

The WB needs tweaking (as always), as in Warm2 (the other starting points are way off base - too cool all around), it was pretty cool/blue in the high light levels (gain) and not cool/blue enough in the low light levels (bias) on my set. I say "on my set", because you can copy these settings, but they may not mean much as I've said before. TVs are made so cheaply now, and with cheap parts, so quality control is bad and variations abound everywhere.

Anyway, after calibration, it's tracking almost perfectly. Just using Warm2 was simply not good enough. I love the CS-200, and am fortunate to be able to use/borrow one as it costs $12K... I have to say that it's too bad Sony is not offering a R, G, & B mode only so I can calibrate color and hue. Using a filter doesn't work on LCD unfortunately - no matter what many say. Fortunately though, the color decoding seems pretty damn good, a bit strange in the yellow, but I'm nitpicking here. Saturation is fine, so no big deal.

Anyway, here you go:

Picture Mode: Custom
Backlight: 2
Picture: 90
Brightness: 52
Color: 50
Hue: 0
Color Temp: Warm 2
Sharpness: Min
Noise Reduction: Off
MPG Noise Red: Off
MotionFlow: Off
Cinemotion: Off
Ambient Sensor: Off

Advanced Settings

Adv Contrast Enhancer: Off
Black Corrector: Off
Gamma: -2
Clear White: Off
Live Color: Off


White Balance

RGain -7
GGain 0
BGain -8
RBias 0
GBias 0
BBias +10

Picture size: Full Pixel

BTW, I think I spent 30 minutes messing with the gamma setting, but at -2 it's the best on my set. Used DVE and Spears & Munsil, the latter for contrast and gamma patterns (better IMO).

Here is the entire Post that I copied and was referencing to. It took me a while to find the Post in this Thread, but I do believe in giving credit where credit is due. The fact he used a 12 Thousand Dollar Analyzer definitely made me at least give the Settings a whirl.
post #4737 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Audiodork View Post

I have recently changed up my Settings on my 55EX500 and am quite pleased. I used the Settings from another Member that was Posted months ago, I wish I remember whose settings they were, but they really have brought out the best PQ yet.

I now have Gamma set to -2, Backlight 2, and these White Balance Settings: R Gain -7, G-Gain 0, B-Gain -8, R-Bias 0, G-Bias 0, B-Bias +10. Picture is 90, Brightness 52, Color 50, Hue 0, Warm 2. Sharpness Minimum.
Cheers,
AD

Hey AD,

Thanks for the reply.
I actually went through the thread page by page when I got the TV and tried every setting, using the AVS set-up disc. With all the different settings, the white did not look white to me - it was either brown or blue. I think your settings did something interesting with the greens when I watched some test stuff. Another setting (from page 40ish if memory serves me right) made coloured people appear red on TV. That was when I went back to defaults.
Currently, my settings are (off memory because my TV isn't here):
Backlight: Min
Power Save: On (Low)
Brightness: 50
Picture: 90
Color: 50
Hue: 0
Color Temp: Warm 2
Gamma: 0
White balance: Default
Sharpness: Min
Everything known to mess with the picture (like black corrector, motionflow, etc), is turned to Off.

That being said, I'll give your settings another try when I go home. Perhaps I had an off day when I tried them out or my eyes just failed me.
EDIT: Thanks for going out of your way to find the original post! I'll give the full settings a whirl when I go home and see how it looks.
post #4738 of 6190
Woah! We're on a roll today -- a total of two people posted their settings!
post #4739 of 6190
Comparing the 46EX500 (picture only) to the new 2011 Sony 46" models, is it the consensus here that the 46EX500 with CCFL backlighting is still preferred?
post #4740 of 6190
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathan_393 View Post

I purchased the 46 EX500 about a month ago.

I've also got my White Balance set to defaults for everything - Serialmike's settings made it look a little too blue and everybody else's too red for green. I'm wondering if that's because there's some variations with different panels.

Serialmike has a 60" version that uses a different panel from the smaller ones, so his settings are mainly relevant only to that panel.

I noticed Serialmike's settings on a 40EX500 made blacks very blue.
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