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post #6091 of 6190
I've actually got it sorted out! Thanks to a helpful reply at RC forums, I learned that my cable remote was programmable and had the ability to get the codes I needed. I used those and learned them to my MX-500 and now I'm in business.
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As you probably already know, you can get HDMI1 and HDMI2 with EFCs 162 and 158. The 1994 can't send device 26, but you should be able to learn the signals. If the OEM remote doesn't have those functions, you can enter 5 digit EFCs into e.g Comcast or Atlas cable remotes, or other newer UEI remotes, and use those to teach the 1994.

HDMI1 3 and 4 are 05021 and 03997 using e.g. setup code Audio 1758 or 31758.

BTW, the MX-500 (which is going on 10 years old) is finally about to give up the ghost, so I'm ordering an URC r40 to replace it. I'm wanting to move all of my learned codes to the new remote before the MX-500 finally dies and these were the last 2 codes I needed.

Thanks for the reply...
post #6092 of 6190
Here are the EFC's for several discretes on the above RCA or any modern JP1 remote using TV setup code 0810. On a cable remote like the comcast 1067BX3 with red OK button, use TV 1317 instead. Use the manual 9xx programming instructions at the wiki link in my signature.

If you still prefer the 1994, you can at least use the RCA to teach it once you program the EFCs. You can test any of these code before programming them by simply tapping Setup followed quickly by the code. The command is sent when you press the last digit. Post back if you need any more codes or help.

(BS = Bravia Sync commands, all of which work on PS3 and other devices that work with HDMI-CEC)
Code:
Discrete ON  43333
Discrete OFF    42309
TV Tuner discrete       11077
Video 1 23109
Video 2 22085
Audio Effect Toggle     42565
Video 3 Component 1     22597
Video 4 Component 2     21829
Video 5 HDMI 1  55877
Video 6 HDMI 2  54853
Video 7 HDMI 3  05021
Video 8 HDMI 4  03997
PC      21573
BS-Theater      12843
BS-Rewind       64556
BS-Pause        65068
BS-Play 00044
BS-FF   00812
BS-Sync Menu    04765
BS-Prev 58156
BS-Stop 00556
BS-Next 57132

Notice that BS Pause doesn't exist on the sony remote, but it does work.
post #6093 of 6190
Ex500 or the st50 panny? Man I miss ex500
post #6094 of 6190
New settings update, I was able to get a little more out of it.

Eye-One LT Meter with HCFR. AVSPatterns, THX patterns
Picture Mode- Custom
Backlight-Min
Picture-95
Brightness- 52
Color- 50
Hue- 0
Color Temp- Neutral
Sharpness- 3
Noise Reduction- Off
MPG Noise Red- low
MotionFlow- Standard
Cinemotion- Off
Ambient Sensor- Off

Advanced Settings
Adv Contrast Enhancer-off
Black Corrector- off
Gamma- 0
Clear White- Off
Live Color- Off


White Balance-
RGain 0
GGain 0
BGain -22
RBias 1
GBias 0
BBias 2

Picture size-Full Pixel
Power Save-Off

Game Mode for Xbox Ps3 gaming. (Now metered and fully tested with patterns)

Picture Mode- Graphics
Backlight-1
Picture- 91
Brightness- 50
Color- 50
Hue- 0
Color Temp- Warm1
Sharpness- 1
Noise Reduction- Off
MPG Noise Red- Off
MotionFlow- Off
Cinemotion- Off
Ambient Sensor- Off



New Alternate Game settings (slightly more lag but very playable)
Eye-One LT Meter with HCFR. AVSPatterns, THX patterns
Picture Mode- Custom
Backlight-Min
Picture-95
Brightness- 52
Color- 50
Hue- 0
Color Temp- Nuetral
Sharpness- 1
Noise Reduction- Off
MPG Noise Red- Off
MotionFlow- OFF
Cinemotion- Off
Ambient Sensor- Off

Advanced Settings
Adv Contrast Enhancer-off
Black Corrector- off
Gamma- 0
Clear White- Off
Live Color- Off


White Balance-
RGain 0
GGain 0
BGain -22
RBias 1
GBias 0
BBias 2

Picture size-Full Pixel
Power Save-Off
Edited by serialmike - 8/29/12 at 5:43am
post #6095 of 6190
Serialmike is finally on board with sharpness set at 3, was only a matter of time smile.gif
post #6096 of 6190
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Originally Posted by sl@cker View Post

Serialmike is finally on board with sharpness set at 3, was only a matter of time smile.gif
I leave the sharpness setting on the TV at "0" and instead bump it up a couple notches on my Oppo. Looks a helluva lot better that way, IMHO.
post #6097 of 6190
Years ago I found MY TV looks better to MY eyes with +3 Sharpness setting at the distance we watch our TV.
post #6098 of 6190
I go between 2 and 3. 3 is where it starts to get over sharpened.
post #6099 of 6190
There is more to the setting than just turning sharpness up to 3.

The full explanation is this. LCD sets use interpolation to reduce sample and hold effect of LCD tech. The use of Motionflow at the level I use does not introduce soap opera effect. Motionflow or any interpolation does have another effect. This effect is noise in the image. Almost looks like low bandwidth cable. Its very slight and many do not notice it.

A way to remedy this is to turn on MPG noise reduction. This is a special filter that removes mosquito noise around the edges of objects that happens in compressed MPG signals. It also happens to fix the Noise created by interpolation as I have discovered. Once you turn on the MPG noise filter you counter this by turning sharpness up a little bit.

The results are much improved image quality.
post #6100 of 6190
Has anyone had an issue where you could not turn your 55ex500 OFF? I have this happen about once every 3 weeks or so. I have tried both my Logitech and the factory Sony remote, the power button on the tv itself, and the only thing that works is unplugging the TV from the wall. Has anyone run into this?
post #6101 of 6190
Just tried to update the firmware on my 60" but tv still wont recognize a usb stick. This is the 3rd usb stick I've tried. Anybody have any idea why my tv's usb port is not working?
post #6102 of 6190
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Originally Posted by PredatorWH View Post

Just tried to update the firmware on my 60" but tv still wont recognize a usb stick. This is the 3rd usb stick I've tried. Anybody have any idea why my tv's usb port is not working?

Is the usb drive formatted correctly? Some items will only see Fat32 vs NTFS.....
post #6103 of 6190
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Originally Posted by PredatorWH View Post

Just tried to update the firmware on my 60" but tv still wont recognize a usb stick. This is the 3rd usb stick I've tried. Anybody have any idea why my tv's usb port is not working?
Is there a firmware update that I'm unaware of?
post #6104 of 6190
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Originally Posted by cburbs View Post

Is the usb drive formatted correctly? Some items will only see Fat32 vs NTFS.....

You know I never thought of that, i'll give it a try.
post #6105 of 6190
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Originally Posted by serialmike View Post

Game Mode for Xbox Ps3 gaming. (Now metered and fully tested with patterns)
Picture Mode- Graphics
Backlight-1
Picture- 91
Brightness- 50
Color- 50
Hue- 0
Color Temp- Warm1
Sharpness- 1
Noise Reduction- Off
MPG Noise Red- Off
MotionFlow- Off
Cinemotion- Off
Ambient Sensor- Off

Are you using

Reference level: Standard?
HDMI Color Space: RGB?
post #6106 of 6190
Standard, and I believe Auto.
post #6107 of 6190
Mike, what settings do you use for your PS3? (assuming your Picture Mode - "Graphics" settings above)

RGB Full Range : Limited or Full
Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-White : On or Off
Deep Color Output : Automatic or Off

Thanks
post #6108 of 6190
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Originally Posted by PredatorWH View Post

Just tried to update the firmware on my 60" but tv still wont recognize a usb stick. This is the 3rd usb stick I've tried. Anybody have any idea why my tv's usb port is not working?
Are you doing the firmware update or the software update? The firmware hasn't changed in over a year, and the software update listed on the support page doesn't apply to the EX series (it updates the internet apps our model doesn't have). In any case, the EX expects FAT32.
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

Is there a firmware update that I'm unaware of?
No.
Edited by mdavej - 9/11/12 at 10:16pm
post #6109 of 6190
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Originally Posted by cliffclaven View Post

Mike, what settings do you use for your PS3? (assuming your Picture Mode - "Graphics" settings above)
RGB Full Range : Limited or Full
Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-White : On or Off
Deep Color Output : Automatic or Off
Thanks

I run Y PB CB CR super white on
RGB limited range
deep color off

I dont game much at all on my ps3 its really a glorified bluray and media streamer for me. My ps3 I use the same settings as my tv viewing. Also of note, When I game I pretty much use the custom settings even on xbox. Mostly because I dont do any worse than usual when playing blops of mw. Not sucking, Try Harder makes up for much more than a little lag smile.gif
post #6110 of 6190
Looking good. Thanks Mike!
post #6111 of 6190
No problem
post #6112 of 6190
Display Discovery on or off?
post #6113 of 6190
serialmike: is the picture quality for video games better overall when using custom mode, compared to graphics mode? IE do video game graphics benefit from the extra processing on custom mode?
post #6114 of 6190
Hi
I haven't posted here for a long time, but I just bought a new Blu-ray player (Sony BDP-S790) and started fiddling with the settings again. redface.gif
Simple question: Is there any point in me trying to improve the white balance without professional equipment, or am I just wasting time?
post #6115 of 6190
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Originally Posted by Corio View Post

Hi
I haven't posted here for a long time, but I just bought a new Blu-ray player (Sony BDP-S790) and started fiddling with the settings again. redface.gif
Simple question: Is there any point in me trying to improve the white balance without professional equipment, or am I just wasting time?
Sure...... just make a note of your original settings in case you want to return to where you started. As the saying goes...... "nothing ventured, nothing gained".
post #6116 of 6190
40ex500 here, curious if there is any true difference to the game-original and game-standard modes. Also does the 24hz movie/bluray mode work while in the game scene modes??
I actually like the clarity of the picture while even watching movies in this mode with all processing turned off. But I would like to know if 24hz mode still works while using it (and is there anything else against using game mode for movies)? Otherwise I'm going back to the cinema mode.

Also, does the ambient light sensor still work? I notice that turning it off really brightens the screen to a level I've not seen before, even with a room full of daylight. Sometimes it seems a little dark with ambient sensor on, as opposed to being off. Has anyone else seen this? And what is the recommended setting.

Thank you!
post #6117 of 6190
Does this set have the Motionflow "clear" setting?
post #6118 of 6190
curious if anyone here with a Playstation 3 can chime in the optimal settings for our set. The the two settings I'm curious about are: RGB Full Range (hdmi) which can be set to limited or full, and the next setting: bd/dvd video output format (hdmi) which can be set to auto, rgb or y pb/cb pr/cr.
now which would be the best choice for gaming and bluray watching.
post #6119 of 6190
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Originally Posted by Predator WH View Post

I tried to update the firmware on my 60ex500 today but I couldnt get it to work. I downloaded the file and put it on a usb stick. I put the usb in the tv and it autoplayed so I know the tv recognized it. I shut the tv off and then turned it back on. The green light came on and stayed on. I left it for 20 min and when I came back it was still the same. I dont know why it wouldnt work. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow with a different usb stick.

Hi Predator WH,

I just got a used 40EX500 recently, and also failed to update its firmware. The situation you had before is exactly the same as what I face now!

Just wondering did you address the problem?

Thank you!!
post #6120 of 6190
When connecting a blu-ray player to the EX500, do you guys do RGB out or ycbcr out?
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