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post #181 of 2844
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Originally Posted by Picard007 View Post

Hello from Germany, (excuse my bad english)

my sony S-370 have artefacts by playing MKV X264 wich are encoded with the "weightedp=2" option.

This is the same Problem that the LG BD-370 have too.

I hope Sony fix this fast and the DLNA option too.

Regards

Picard007

I tried to play MKV and other formats from a pendrive and the result was pretty bad, loads of pixelations. I understand there will be an update for DLNA and for HDD support that should fix this.
post #182 of 2844
Hopefully I'll be picking up my 470 on the way home from work today!
post #183 of 2844
I have the sony s370. I am having a serious problem with the netflix. its very choppy, jumpy when I play titles like 21 jump street, season 1 blindside, cagney and lacey second season episode 1. scanners. it seems to be jumpy or choppy. the amazon on demand does work and I can play the HD clip and its very smooth.
I was wondering if anyone else is having this problem. I have called sony, netflix and my local internet company. I also have the ps3 and roku and the netflix works fine on that.
I have replaced the blu ray player once already and still have the same problem.

if anyone else having the same issue? if so please let me know.

Jacob
post #184 of 2844
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I have the sony s370. I am having a serious problem with the netflix. its very choppy, jumpy when I play titles like 21 jump street, season 1 blindside, cagney and lacey second season episode 1. scanners. it seems to be jumpy or choppy. the amazon on demand does work and I can play the HD clip and its very smooth.
I was wondering if anyone else is having this problem. I have called sony, netflix and my local internet company. I also have the ps3 and roku and the netflix works fine on that.
I have replaced the blu ray player once already and still have the same problem.

if anyone else having the same issue? if so please let me know.

Jacob

You didn't mention what is your internet speed. Anything below 6 Mbps can cause a reduction on the picture quality.
post #185 of 2844
I have about 8-13 or so. I am good on that part.

Jacob
post #186 of 2844
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I have about 8-13 or so. I am good on that part.

Jacob

Did you upgrade the firmware? The new firmware is supposed to correct a bug where Netflix didn't recognized the internet speed and was "downgrading" the streaming. The new version is the 315



http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...=5518&os_id=28
post #187 of 2844
I did the update for it.

Jacob
post #188 of 2844
S370 arrived a day earlier... took my LG 570 back to BestBuy.

So far, so good.... no lockups or other issues I had with the LG...

Streaming from hard drive is nice... although, only fat32. I used vob and mpeg... tried mkv on many players and none of them played (oppo nor lg). I've given up on mkv...

DVD up conversion looks nice... well, on par with the other players I've tested, and my htpc... picture on this machine looks great once you put it on "theater." Before that, it did not look bad... but it looked better to me once I changed it.

I thought the sounds were better than my htpc... I was fooled, it simply sounds louder at a lower setting through my receiver. lol Sounds good though...

Heck, it works and the pq is great... all the "extra" stuff looks okay... as I said in another thread, sony should focus on quality and not quantity. I have to admit, though, some of the stuff is cool... like the videos playing with the music...

Not tried netflix yet... I will eventually. Love the fact it has a usb on the back...

What a wild ride... but I'll more than likely stick with this one...

All this started with me thinking I was going to "retire" my htpc...

Went with the oppo 83... steaming was terrible...dlna was poorly implemented... etc, etc... dvds did not look better than my htpc... it was not such a great experience for $500

LG... lockups... lockups... and other small issues. No usb port on the back of the player... had to keep the front lid down when connecting a usb device... did not look clean (I know, I know). Much better experience with streaming vs. the oppo. Think the last straw was when the lg simply cut off yesterday; I was like "crap." (not to mention a 90 day warranty that many people used with the LGs).

I'll keep my htpc as my main device and use the sony for backup or when I want to watch a dvd/br fast.

I'll go 3d once we have late 2nd generation or even 3 generation devices out... no way I'm taking the dive now... when I do, I want the 2nd or 3rd gen dvd/br players... so this player is more than good for my purposes.
post #189 of 2844
n/m
post #190 of 2844
hooked my 470 last night. Man, it's tiny, about half the size of my old s350! Did a firmware update, netflix looks good. Hate the fact that the power cord is attached.

Haven't had much time to play with it yet.
post #191 of 2844
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Originally Posted by smjbh5 View Post

Hate the fact that the power cord is attached.

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Why?

Honest question, nothing behind it...

Only asking since someone else also said that... but I can't think of why that would bother anyone with a device like this. Really, only wondering...
post #192 of 2844
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Originally Posted by HTPC4Ever View Post

Why?

Honest question, nothing behind it...

Only asking since someone else also said that... but I can't think of why that would bother anyone with a device like this. Really, only wondering...

Cheap gear normally have the power cord attached. If you have a problem with the cable, it can be a pain to fix it. A separate cord is much better and more "professional", I think.
post #193 of 2844
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

Cheap gear normally have the power cord attached. If you have a problem with the cable, it can be a pain to fix it. A separate cord is much better and more "professional", I think.

Also, you can replace it with a longer one if you need to!

My son was watching something off of netflix, and about 30 mins in, the movie froze. I pressed stop, nothing, pressed return, nothing. Had to turn it off. Couple of hours later, I notice that the player is flashing "see you". I tried turning it off, nothing. Had to unplug it, then plug it in again. Worked after that. Went back to netflix, resumed the movie, worked fine. Popped in a BD, worked fine. Should I be concerned?
post #194 of 2844
Picked up the 370 today at BB. I am mostly blind in one eye so 3D doesn't work for me. Everything worked find. Netflix was synched and smooth. Tried a couple of movies and they looked great. Simple to set up. Tried an SD card reader in the USB to look at pictures I had taken. Worked fine. Update no problem. All in all a great player.
post #195 of 2844
i got an s370 a few days ago. blurays look great but i get a lot of lag/jerkiness on SD dvds. anyone have idea why?
post #196 of 2844
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Originally Posted by Roland Chang View Post

How is the remote? I know Sony added back the eject button(very nice) but does it still have the Time/Text button that displays the Time Remaining?

NO!! they added the Eject(which should have NEVER been taken away) and removed the most important feature to me, the Time/Text button
The 370(and I assume all other x70 models) don't allow Remaining time or chapter remaining or elapsed. Like the x60(which I returned the 560 to get the 370) series you also can't search by time, only by chapter

I for one also don't like how they cheaped out and don't have the removable power cord anymore(although I think most newer BRs will be similar, like how recent DVD players were hard wired).
It's also not possible to SLO-MO in reverse although this year they added more than just one speed forward.

On the positive side the 370 has just as good picture quality as the 560, which is top notch(although no x70's have the S-video found on the 560).
Like the x60 line, disc resume feature is canceled when the disc is removed or even by pushing STOP with select BRs.
I also liked the very slim design of this years models and even though the design is slim the tray feels sturdy and it's easy to get the discs out. Something I can't say about all slim players(insert JVC here)

All in all for $179 the 370 isn't a bad BR player but due to the fact that this model has no remaining time and no disc resume after eject, I'll be returning it.
Maybe next year Sony will add features that were available on all their DVD players of yesteryear.

All testing done via HDMI on a 46" Sony 1080p 120HZ LCD with both BR and DVD discs.

edit: I stand corrected, it is possible to slo-mo reverse and frame advance reverse and note it's one speed forward and reverse, thanks HTPC4ever
edit: Upon further testing with a wider variety of discs I kind of take back my comparison the the 560(for DVD playback, BRs are the same). The up conversion of the 370 is NOT comparable to the 560 via HDMI(softer than the 560) nor the composite output(370 composite out is atrocious compared to the 560 and no where as good as S-video on 560). Probably not a lot of people using the composite output of the 370 but for older and very poor DVD copies I prefer a CRT and my CRT only has composite and S-video inputs. With my poorer quality DVDs the composite output of the 370 makes it look worse
After doing some checking it looks like I could get(from Sony) a 560 remote(which would add Time/Text but lose Eject) for $19.95 or a 350 remote(has both Eject and Time/Text but loses TV input button) for $30.95 or lastly a 550 remote(same as 350 but adds backlight) for $62.95
If I was keeping the 370 I may have went with the 350 remote for $31 but because of substandard composite picture quality and a few other things I'll pass on it all. BTW the HDMI output for DVDs doesn't come near my Sony 700('08 $69) DVD player's quality, of course BRs look better than DVDs on my 700 for the same title.
post #197 of 2844
I get the running time when I press the display button. its on the bottom right corner.

Jacob

NO!! they added the Eject(which should have NEVER been taken away) and removed the most important feature to me, the Time/Text button
post #198 of 2844
Given the reasonable price, it appears that I will get the Sony BDP-S370 to complement my new Sony KDL-40EX500 40" LCD flat panel.

One question though: since both my LCD flat panel and Blu-ray player will be a Sony, does that mean the remote on for the TV can control at least the basic functions on the S370?
post #199 of 2844
[quote=jjeff;18307126]The 370(and I assume all other x70 models) don't allow Remaining time or chapter remaining or elapsed. Like the x60(which I returned the 560 to get the 370) series you also can't search by time, only by chapter

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I don't know what you are talking about: The X70 has both the elapsed and remained time displayed when you press "display". The 460 only displays one of them (forgot if the elapsed or remained).

The resume works or not depending on the disk, if you are talking about bluray. Nothing to do with the player.

I can only agree with the attached cable, looks cheap .
post #200 of 2844
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

NO!! they added the Eject(which should have NEVER been taken away) and removed the most important feature to me, the Time/Text button
The 370(and I assume all other x70 models) don't allow Remaining time or chapter remaining or elapsed. Like the x60(which I returned the 560 to get the 370) series you also can't search by time, only by chapter

I for one also don't like how they cheaped out and don't have the removable power cord anymore(although I think most newer BRs will be similar, like how recent DVD players were hard wired).
It's also not possible to SLO-MO in reverse although this year they added more than just one speed forward.

On the positive side the 370 has just as good picture quality as the 560, which is top notch(although no x70's have the S-video found on the 560).
Like the x60 line, disc resume feature is canceled when the disc is removed or even by pushing STOP with select BRs.
I also liked the very slim design of this years models and even though the design is slim the tray feels sturdy and it's easy to get the discs out. Something I can't say about all slim players(insert JVC here)

All in all for $179 the 370 isn't a bad BR player but due to the fact that this model has no remaining time and no disc resume after eject, I'll be returning it.
Maybe next year Sony will add features that were available on all their DVD players of yesteryear.

All testing done via HDMI on a 46" Sony 1080p 120HZ LCD with both BR and DVD discs.

The power cord does look sexy... black with that white stripe...

You can search by time... but it seems you have to hold the forward button down. Not that bad, but less friendly than the LG I sent back. You could put the time in the lg (well, did not work that great, sometimes did not work at all)... that was useful, but not enough for me to keep it, nor even send one back.

Far as reverse slow motion, slowest goes in 1 sec increments...
post #201 of 2844
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I get the running time when I press the display button. its on the bottom right corner.
Jacob

Bottom right is STOP but bottom left display button only shows elapsed and total disc time, not remaining time
I'm going to guess if one had last years Sony BR remote(with the Time/Text button) you could probably activate that feature with the x70's(but then you'd need the current remote to have Eject on remote). Of course for all you Harmony people you should be able to program both Eject and Time/Text on your one remote.
thanks


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Originally Posted by RayChuang View Post

Given the reasonable price, it appears that I will get the Sony BDP-S370 to complement my new Sony KDL-40EX500 40" LCD flat panel.

One question though: since both my LCD flat panel and Blu-ray player will be a Sony, does that mean the remote on for the TV can control at least the basic functions on the S370?

Amazingly yes! I hadn't tried that yesterday and really had no hope it would work(since those buttons operate my Sony DVD player, which has different IR codes than the Sony BR player) but somehow it works! My Sony TV remote controls Sony BRs Stop, Play, Search FF and REW, Pause and Slo FF and Rew

OK it gets better, as mentioned I have both a Sony DVD player and this Sony BR player(that both have different IR codes) and yet my Sony TV remote can control both depending on what input on my TV I've selected. If I'm watching the BR the PAUSE on my Sony TV it operates the BR, if I'm watching my DVD player the Pause operates the DVD player(and not the BR). Cool, Sony got this one right I love HDMI control.

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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post


I don't know what you are talking about: The X70 has both the elapsed and remained time displayed when you press "display". The 460 only displays one of them (forgot if the elapsed or remained).

The resume works or not depending on the disk, if you are talking about bluray. Nothing to do with the player.

I can only agree with the attached cable, looks cheap .

The 370(haven't used any other x70) definitely doesn't show remaining time, only elapsed and total disc title time
AFA disc resume all Sony DVD players of the past had a feature called disc resume that would save the position of the last 6 discs played. The Sony Blu-ray players only allow resume as long as the disc isn't ejected, and you're correct about BR resume, if the disc has Java (as 2 of my 6 BR discs do) you can't use any resume feature. Pushing STOP(even once) on a Java BR takes you all the way back to the FBI warnings! Progress

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Originally Posted by HTPC4Ever View Post

The power cord does look sexy... black with that white stripe...

You can search by time... but it seems you have to hold the forward button down. Not that bad, but less friendly than the LG I sent back. You could put the time in the lg (well, did not work that great, sometimes did not work at all)... that was useful, but not enough for me to keep it, nor even send one back.

Far as reverse slow motion, slowest goes in 1 sec increments...

Truthfully the attached power cord wouldn't be a deal breaker by any means, it's just if I had a choice I'd take the detachable. With Sony DVD players of the last 5 years I had no choice either, the all were attached.
Holding the FF or REV down takes you into visual search, what I was looking for(and was on all Sony DVD players) was ability to search to a particular time in the movie. For example 2hrs. 18 minutes into the movie with only a few keystrokes. Sure you could use Chapter skip and visual search but it's so much easier with time search.
I stand corrected on Slo-mo reverse, it does have one speed forward and one backwards Slo-mo
post #202 of 2844
this is my first sony stand alone player.. I only had the ps3. I meant the display of the info about running time was on the right corner (on screen) .. not the stop button on the remote.

Jacob
post #203 of 2844
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Originally Posted by mcantu1 View Post

i got an s370 a few days ago. blurays look great but i get a lot of lag/jerkiness on SD dvds. anyone have idea why?

ok this seems to be related to 24 fps detection. some (all?) SD DVDs that are not 24 fps are detected as such when the player is set to Auto detect
post #204 of 2844
You may also want to play with Cinema Conversion Mode settings(formally known as Progressive Mode).
Default is Auto but I've had better luck with SD DVDs changing it to Video. Of course if you played lots of movies then Auto may be a better choice for you. Most of my SD DVDs are Video based.
I have my 370 set to Auto Detect for 24fps and haven't had any SD DVD problems and I doubt any of my DVDs are 24fps based.
post #205 of 2844
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Originally Posted by mcantu1 View Post

ok this seems to be related to 24 fps detection. some (all?) SD DVDs that are not 24 fps are detected as such when the player is set to Auto detect

What sd movies are you having trouble with?

I've watched several and had no issues... watching the end of troy, with no issues...

Thinking of throwing my sony 370 box away tomorrow with the trash. lol

If dlna firmware goes off without issue, the $161 I paid (free shipping) will be a steal.

This player is already a steal... the picture is darn nice.

I did have to play with my settings...
post #206 of 2844
I was watching the movie 9 today and hit the display button that shows how much time is left and the audio info and was surprised to see that it was showing "DTS HD Master Audio 5.1 48khz". I was surprised because my AVR which is the Sony CT100 has the ability to play this and the DD HD formats but it doesn't decode them. I know the s370 decodes and will bitstream it but I am using digital coax (orange) from BD to CT100 and thought that in order to bitstream the HD audio formats to the AVR it would have to be done via HDMI? Is it possible the Display was giving me false information?
post #207 of 2844
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Originally Posted by steve1022 View Post

I was watching the movie 9 today and hit the display button that shows how much time is left and the audio info and was surprised to see that it was showing "DTS HD Master Audio 5.1 48khz". I was surprised because my AVR which is the Sony CT100 has the ability to play this and the DD HD formats but it doesn't decode them. I know the s370 decodes and will bitstream it but I am using digital coax (orange) from BD to CT100 and thought that in order to bitstream the HD audio formats to the AVR it would have to be done via HDMI? Is it possible the Display was giving me false information?

The display was not giving false information and you were not getting any HD audio. It shows which track from the disk was selected but the digital coax was downsampling the signal, as it should.
post #208 of 2844
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Bottom right is STOP but bottom left display button only shows elapsed and total disc time, not remaining time
I'm going to guess if one had last years Sony BR remote(with the Time/Text button) you could probably activate that feature with the x70's(but then you'd need the current remote to have Eject on remote). Of course for all you Harmony people you should be able to program both Eject and Time/Text on your one remote.
thanks

jjeff,
Do you have any idea how to do that? I have a Harmony and I was able to find the s370 and all but if the remote doesn't have time/text on it originally how would I go about adding it? Think it's possible to learn it to the remote using my old upconvert DVD model 710h remote?
post #209 of 2844
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

The display was not giving false information and you were not getting any HD audio. It shows which track from the disk was selected but the digital coax was downsampling the signal, as it should.

Thank you
post #210 of 2844
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Originally Posted by steve1022 View Post

jjeff,
Do you have any idea how to do that? I have a Harmony and I was able to find the s370 and all but if the remote doesn't have time/text on it originally how would I go about adding it? Think it's possible to learn it to the remote using my old upconvert DVD model 710h remote?

I've never owned a Harmony but I've read where people can somehow add a IR code that may not be on the current remote for that unit. You don't want to use the 710(DVD only) codes because they won't work with Sony BRs. I have a 700 DVD player which has Eject but none of the buttons overlap with Sony BRs.
You'd want to use the TIME/TEXT code from a older Sony BR remote that had that feature. Any of the x60 or x50 series should work. For example, BDP-S350, BDP-S550, BDP-S360 or BDP-S560. All those models had a remote that included the TIME/TEXT button.

You know I bet if you told your Harmony you had a BDP-S350 or BDP-S550 you'd be all set, since both those remotes has EJECT and TIME/TEXT. From looking at the manuals the only button I noticed they lacked was the TV INPUT button. I'm guessing you don't use that button anyway since you can probably control your TV with other buttons on the Harmony.

It's been my experience that even though Sony omits certain buttons on newer remotes, older remotes(of the same product category) with those buttons can control newer products and enable those functions.

I know my 700 Sony DVD remote will enable all of the features missing on the 710 DVD player remote, I had a 710 for a brief time.

Good luck and let us know how it works!
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