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post #211 of 2805
3/14/10 at 4:43pm
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

I've never owned a Harmony but I've read where people can somehow add a IR code that may not be on the current remote for that unit. You don't want to use the 710(DVD only) codes because they won't work with Sony BRs. I have a 700 DVD player which has Eject but none of the buttons overlap with Sony BRs.
You'd want to use the TIME/TEXT code from a older Sony BR remote that had that feature. Any of the x60 or x50 series should work. For example, BDP-S350, BDP-S550, BDP-S360 or BDP-S560. All those models had a remote that included the TIME/TEXT button.

You know I bet if you told your Harmony you had a BDP-S350 or BDP-S550 you'd be all set, since both those remotes has EJECT and TIME/TEXT. From looking at the manuals the only button I noticed they lacked was the TV INPUT button. I'm guessing you don't use that button anyway since you can probably control your TV with other buttons on the Harmony.

It's been my experience that even though Sony omits certain buttons on newer remotes, older remotes(of the same product category) with those buttons can control newer products and enable those functions.

I know my 700 Sony DVD remote will enable all of the features missing on the 710 DVD player remote, I had a 710 for a brief time.

Good luck and let us know how it works!

I created a BDP-350 device on my Harmony and there is a command "TIME" on the database. It has no effect on the S570.
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post #212 of 2805
3/14/10 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

I've never owned a Harmony but I've read where people can somehow add a IR code that may not be on the current remote for that unit. You don't want to use the 710(DVD only) codes because they won't work with Sony BRs. I have a 700 DVD player which has Eject but none of the buttons overlap with Sony BRs.
You'd want to use the TIME/TEXT code from a older Sony BR remote that had that feature. Any of the x60 or x50 series should work. For example, BDP-S350, BDP-S550, BDP-S360 or BDP-S560. All those models had a remote that included the TIME/TEXT button.

You know I bet if you told your Harmony you had a BDP-S350 or BDP-S550 you'd be all set, since both those remotes has EJECT and TIME/TEXT. From looking at the manuals the only button I noticed they lacked was the TV INPUT button. I'm guessing you don't use that button anyway since you can probably control your TV with other buttons on the Harmony.

It's been my experience that even though Sony omits certain buttons on newer remotes, older remotes(of the same product category) with those buttons can control newer products and enable those functions.

I know my 700 Sony DVD remote will enable all of the features missing on the 710 DVD player remote, I had a 710 for a brief time.

Good luck and let us know how it works!

That is a good idea, if I get time tonight I will try deleting the s370 and use one the other ones you listed. I'll let you know how it works out.
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post #213 of 2805
3/14/10 at 6:10pm
Possibly a dumb question but I'll ask anyway. I just picked up a 470 but havent hooked it up yet but I'm looking at the manual and for BD Audio MIX setting it has "on" and "off". I assume that if I want to send the signal via HDMI to my Denon AVR-1909 and let it decoded the audio I should set this to "off"?
The manual is pretty poor at explaining this.
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post #214 of 2805
3/14/10 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

I created a BDP-350 device on my Harmony and there is a command "TIME" on the database. It has no effect on the S570.

Wow, I thought for sure it would work. If I still had my BDP-S560 (which had the TIME function(but not EJECT) I'd try it on my BDP-370, but I no longer have the 560.
BTW from researching the online manuals the 560 uses remote RMT-B104A while the 350 uses RMT-B102A and lastly the 370 uses RMT-B107A.
Maybe the 560 code would work for TIME on the 370? I'm really surprised the 350 remote code didn't work on the 370 Did any of the other operations work with your S570? eg. PLAY or STOP?
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post #215 of 2805
3/14/10 at 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Wow, I thought for sure it would work. If I still had my BDP-S560 (which had the TIME function(but not EJECT) I'd try it on my BDP-370, but I no longer have the 560.
BTW from researching the online manuals the 560 uses remote RMT-B104A while the 350 uses RMT-B102A and lastly the 370 uses RMT-B107A.
Maybe the 560 code would work for TIME on the 370? I'm really surprised the 350 remote code didn't work on the 370 Did any of the other operations work with your S570? eg. PLAY or STOP?

Yes, all other commands work just fine. Keep in mind that I used the "TIME" command from the bdp-350 stored on the Harmony database. I din't use the real remote of the 350.
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post #216 of 2805
3/14/10 at 10:44pm
Are any of you new S370 owners also owners of last year's S360 by any chance?

I picked up the S360 for $99 since all stores were just trying to sell them off. I was waffling on getting the S360 or S370, but couldn't pass up the price. It's my first player and no need for streaming (have Xbox360) or 3D... ok decision or bad choice?
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post #217 of 2805
3/15/10 at 5:27am
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Originally Posted by StoneyPA View Post

Are any of you new S370 owners also owners of last year's S360 by any chance?

I picked up the S360 for $99 since all stores were just trying to sell them off. I was waffling on getting the S360 or S370, but couldn't pass up the price. It's my first player and no need for streaming (have Xbox360) or 3D... ok decision or bad choice?

I own the 570 (replacing a BDP-S350) and when I first turned it on, I had to download a firmware update and I have about 20 different streaming options. I also have an XBOX 360 and I think it was worth it. Your call though...
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post #218 of 2805
3/15/10 at 8:24am
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Originally Posted by MrRoy View Post

I own the 570 (replacing a BDP-S350) and when I first turned it on, I had to download a firmware update and I have about 20 different streaming options. I also have an XBOX 360 and I think it was worth it. Your call though...

Thanks for your say on this MrRoy. So in your opinion, the extra $70 is worth it for the S370 despite that I'm 99% sure that I will not use any streaming (unless Netflix REALLY upgrades the service)?

I just want a basic unit to watch DVD and BR. I've only been using an upscaling DVD player (Sony NS77H), so as long as the DVD upscaling is at least equivalent and I've got the ability to play BR, I'd be satisfied to start.

So my main question is... will the S370 PQ be noticeably, or at all, better than the S360 for either DVD or BR? I know from reading on here that the startup time WILL be quicker, but if I can wait for a computer to boot-up in 30 seconds, then I should be able to handle this wait - I think?!?
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post #219 of 2805
3/15/10 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by StoneyPA View Post

Thanks for your say on this MrRoy. So in your opinion, the extra $70 is worth it for the S370 despite that I'm 99% sure that I will not use any streaming (unless Netflix REALLY upgrades the service)?

I just want a basic unit to watch DVD and BR. I've only been using an upscaling DVD player (Sony NS77H), so as long as the DVD upscaling is at least equivalent and I've got the ability to play BR, I'd be satisfied to start.

So my main question is... will the S370 PQ be noticeably, or at all, better than the S360 for either DVD or BR? I know from reading on here that the startup time WILL be quicker, but if I can wait for a computer to boot-up in 30 seconds, then I should be able to handle this wait - I think?!?

JUST for Netflix, then I would probably say no. I cannot compare PQ from the 370 to the 360, I am sorry. If you are looking for a BR player, the 360 is a good choice.
I was tempted with the 560 for $150, but I played the "gun rule" (rather have it and not need it than not have it and then need it) with the 3D option.
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post #220 of 2805
3/15/10 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by spyfy View Post

Try this. Will enable the player to bitstream the audio.

I figured the PCM issue out. Instead of an option for Direct you just turn the "Mix" option to off and it sends the audio out to the receiver to decode. It's under Audio Settings-BD Audio MIX Setting. Options are On/Off. Set to off.

I just got the 370 (actually costo's version of it) and I can't seem to get anything but 2-channel stereo from Netflix.

I have an older receiver with no HDMI and I connect to it using the optical digital. I do get DD 5.1 from BD so I think everything is hooked up fine. I tried toggling the Mix setting mentioned in the above prior post -- no effect. I've also mucked around with the other settings. I realize not all Netflix content is provided in 5.1 but I have focused on newer HD content on Netlfix.

Any ideas or known Netflix content with 5.1 that I should try?

Also, I think I have a good network connection (Netflix HD picture looks great!) I don't know how to display any connection diagnostics (i.e. the 6 Mbps, etc. speeds reported elsewhere in the forum). How can I eliminate the network connection as a suspect?

Thank you -- great forum!
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post #221 of 2805
3/15/10 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by StoneyPA View Post

Thanks for your say on this MrRoy. So in your opinion, the extra $70 is worth it for the S370 despite that I'm 99% sure that I will not use any streaming (unless Netflix REALLY upgrades the service)?

I just want a basic unit to watch DVD and BR. I've only been using an upscaling DVD player (Sony NS77H), so as long as the DVD upscaling is at least equivalent and I've got the ability to play BR, I'd be satisfied to start.

So my main question is... will the S370 PQ be noticeably, or at all, better than the S360 for either DVD or BR? I know from reading on here that the startup time WILL be quicker, but if I can wait for a computer to boot-up in 30 seconds, then I should be able to handle this wait - I think?!?

I haven't had a 360 but I did own a 560 and a 370. As you said the startup time of the 370 is faster but not incredibly so, I also really liked the slim profile of the 370 vs. the chubby 560(and similar 360). AFA PQ I did notice noticeably better composite output and DVD upconverting via HDMI on the 560. Originally I thought they were close but upon further testing of more discs it became evident. I'm not guaranteeing the 360 would be the same but my guess is it might. I also haven't used a 77H but the 370 was noticeably softer than my 710H(DVD player) on both composite and HDMI.
Both BR players were very good with BR discs.
The 360 lacks the EJECT on remote but adds the TIME button which allows you to display remaining time, chapter time and chapter elapsed time, none of which the 370 has. If those features are important to you should keep your 360, which if I saw for $99 I'd pick it up in a NY minute
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post #222 of 2805
3/15/10 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by larry_az View Post

I just got the 370 (actually costo's version of it) and I can't seem to get anything but 2-channel stereo from Netflix.

I have an older receiver with no HDMI and I connect to it using the optical digital. I do get DD 5.1 from BD so I think everything is hooked up fine. I tried toggling the Mix setting mentioned in the above prior post -- no effect. I've also mucked around with the other settings. I realize not all Netflix content is provided in 5.1 but I have focused on newer HD content on Netlfix.

Any ideas or known Netflix content with 5.1 that I should try?

Also, I think I have a good network connection (Netflix HD picture looks great!) I don't know how to display any connection diagnostics (i.e. the 6 Mbps, etc. speeds reported elsewhere in the forum). How can I eliminate the network connection as a suspect?

Thank you -- great forum!

All Netflix content at this time is 2ch stereo. They have plans to go 5.1 at some point but for now you are getting all you are gonna get in the sound department.
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post #223 of 2805
3/15/10 at 3:50pm
Having issues with netflix streaming. When watching HD content, my player freezes and starts buffering or something. This lasts a minute of so, then the show continues. It happened a couple of times on the same show, but haven't had any issues with SD stuff. I'm hard wired in, and get about 11mps. I've only watched 2 HD shows (Elmo and some other kids' thing). Could it be just a one off? I still have the box.
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post #224 of 2805
3/15/10 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by spyfy View Post

All Netflix content at this time is 2ch stereo. They have plans to go 5.1 at some point but for now you are getting all you are gonna get in the sound department.

Thanks for the quick response -- I must have confused one of the earlier posts thinking that 5.1 was supported.

How is everyone figuring out what their connection speeds are -- is there some sort of cleverly hidden (or blatantly obvious!) diagnostic screen that I've missed?
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post #225 of 2805
3/15/10 at 4:27pm
I had problems with the netflix using the 370 player. its very choppy and jumpy. I dont have that problem with either my roku or ps3. its a problem on the sony end. I would recommend calling sony or using the sony support www.sonystyle.com

let them know about the problem. the more people say something about it.. the better chance of getting it fixed.

Jacob
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post #226 of 2805
3/15/10 at 5:42pm
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

You didn't mention what is your internet speed. Anything below 6 Mbps can cause a reduction on the picture quality.

I have Comcast and I ran SpeedTest:
20.5Mbps download
2.81Mbps upload

Will I be able to use Netflix/Amazon streaming video/movies?

Thanks
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post #227 of 2805
3/15/10 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by doakh View Post

I have Comcast and I ran SpeedTest:
20.5Mbps download
2.81Mbps upload

Will I be able to use Netflix/Amazon streaming video/movies?

Thanks

Yes, anything better than 6 Mbps will allow full speed on Netflix and Amazon. Only the download speed is important in this case.
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post #228 of 2805
3/15/10 at 9:13pm
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

Yes, anything better than 6 Mbps will allow full speed on Netflix and Amazon. Only the download speed is important in this case.

Is there a way you can tell what speed you're getting (from the player)?
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post #229 of 2805
3/15/10 at 9:20pm
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Originally Posted by smjbh5 View Post

Is there a way you can tell what speed you're getting (from the player)?

Not with these players but I also have a PS3 linked to the same network and the maximum bitrate I can see is 5.5 mbps . The average bitrate is about 2.5-3 mbps. The Netflix and Amazon HD have about the same bitrate. The PS3 can display the bitrates in real time. Obviously you must be sure that you are not limiting the speed with your internet connection. I have 18 Mbps download speed with U-Verse. Picture quality is the same with the PS3 and the Sony S570.
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post #230 of 2805
3/16/10 at 4:43am
Just got my Sony S470 yesterday......found that Blu-Ray 2012 would not play.....I checked the Firmware it was m03.R.197.......so upgraded it to ver 315.......and it played 2012 just fine.........so be sure you check the ver.
Sure is a small unit............works just great........very happy with it.
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post #231 of 2805
3/16/10 at 6:27am
So does anyone have hex codes for the S470? I still use my Pronto Pro and these codes would sure be of great help.
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post #232 of 2805
3/16/10 at 8:20am
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Originally Posted by Eric Samonte View Post

So does anyone have hex codes for the S470? I still use my Pronto Pro and these codes would sure be of great help.

All sony blu-rays use the same codes. If you can't find codes at remotecentral, you can use THESE with MakeHex to create the pronto hex.
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post #233 of 2805
3/16/10 at 8:24am
Just got an s370, and very happy so far.

I have been experimenting with DVD's ripped on Handbrake and played from USB stick. Just making mpeg4 (w/ m4v ext) with AppleTV preset works really well. No studdering and good picture, but sound is a minor problem. The m4v file that it creates does contain an 5.1 audio track and works properly with AppleTV, but the s370 appears to only see the 1st audio track (which by default is AAC stereo w/ dolby pro logic encoding for compatibility across many players). If I rip it with only the 5.1 audio track it plays fine on the s370, but then will not play with sound on most PC players.

Anyway - I am happy that the m4v right out of Handbrake works well. I might experiment some more and see if I have the 5.1 track as track 1 and aac as track 2 it will work across the board. Any thoughts on how one might force the s370 to play a particular track?

on another note, my receiver (yamaha rx2400) does not have HDMI so I use an HDMI switch box that gives me a digital audio out to the receiver. I have not figured out how to get anything other than stereo out of that setup. I was hoping that I could just switch HDMI, and not have to also switch the receiver inputs, but right now that is the only way I can get 5.1 to my receiver. any thought on this?
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post #234 of 2805
3/16/10 at 8:54am
link for costomer service if you have any tech problems with the sony blu ray player.
for people having problems with netflix. please contact sony and let them know.

thanks

Jacob

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/contact-land.pl

239-768-7547
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post #235 of 2805
3/16/10 at 10:55am
Netflix and streaming in general is actually working pretty well for me over my 6Mbps connection. Those of you with issues, have you updated firmware? When I got mine just a couple of weeks ago there was a firmware update that improved Netflix performance.
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post #236 of 2805
3/16/10 at 10:57am
I did the update and still have the same problem.

Jacob
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post #237 of 2805
3/16/10 at 12:17pm
I am considering the BDP-BX37 from Costco and from what I understand, it is similar to the S370. I called Sony and they said this unit can use almost any WiFi USB dongle but I wanted to find out from the forum if anyone has tried a USB dongle from other than Sony.

Thanks
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post #238 of 2805
3/16/10 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by mas985 View Post

I am considering the BDP-BX37 from Costco and from what I understand, it is similar to the S370. I called Sony and they said this unit can use almost any WiFi USB dongle but I wanted to find out from the forum if anyone has tried a USB dongle from other than Sony.

Thanks

My s370 manual says it's the manual for both so you are correct on that. Wish I could help with the Wifi dongle.
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post #239 of 2805
3/16/10 at 5:51pm
I have the same firmware (m03.R.197) listed a few posts back from the guy who had to update to watch "2012" so decided to upgrade. I don't have anyway to connect to the internet yet so I downloaded it to my PC desktop then realized that I didn't know how I was supposed to upgrade it. I know the Panny BD-60 has to be done with a CD-R only but I can't find anywhere (manual, search here or on the sony site) which tells me if i'm supposed to use the USB port, CD or DVD to get the new 315 firmware upgrade. Can someone help me out with how you have been doing it? Thanks
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post #240 of 2805
3/16/10 at 6:01pm
Sorry but I have another question too for any Bravia owners,
I have a Sony Bravia 46s5100 that has what sony calls "Cinemotion" which is supposed to be for 1080p/24fps playback. I currently have it set to OFF on all my inputs because I don't understand what it's really for. Right now with my current s370 setup when watching a blu-ray the display shows I'm running 1080p/60p (don't recall what it shows on a DVD playback) and the picture is fine. Should I be using this Cinemotion and set up the s370 to do the 24fps? I'm not sure how to tell if something is video or film based and frankly this whole thing confuses the hell out of me. Hopefully I can figure it out on mine then I'll know what to do for my father in laws Panny Plasma and Panny BD-60 too. I have to go upgrade his firmware and do his settings this weekend. Please help me.
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