Official New Sony S370/S470 Owners Thread - Page 93

We got 2 370 boxes (for two diff. homes) well over a year ago because we have one old Panny plasma with component only input and had read that HD would be disabled on newer players on copyrighted discs.
Would this also apply to streaming?
Will we eventually lose HD on newer discs? (and streaming?)

I don' t know about streaming. As far as disks, it's up to the studio and if they decide to put an analog kill code in.

On the next generation (x80), component is permanently limited to 480p, at least for BD (I don't know about streaming.)

On current players, there is no component output at all. Some players don't even have composite or analog audio outputs.

If that's the case, ARE there any decent Blu-ray players that can play DVD's with upscaling that won't have the video blackout issue (or at least minimize it) through HDMI?

for dvd playback across hdmi, unless you have software that is able to remove and re-encode the dvd source, the likelihood of stopping judder effect with hdmi isn't going to happen no bd player i have seen at present has been able to go from 60fps down to a native 24fps frame rate..

It's not a BD player, but my HD-A20 does a decent job most of the time on 24fps DVD playback. Seems like there should be a BD player that could do that, perhaps the Oppos?

How is the latest Firmware release? I stopped upgrading around the time that they introduced a bug that slowed the loading time of all disks if you had a thumb drive plugged in.

Any flaws with the current "final" release?

/j

BD-370 won't play Titanic

I have tried two different copies of Titanic BD (non 3D) in my BD-370. It just gets to the part where it is loading the menus and the film strip animation just keeps on playing and the menus never come up. I checked for any updates from the players menu and it says it is at the latest version.

Has anyone seen this problem?

Thanks

John

Anyone?

Thanks!
/j

I just tried to play "The Artist" (via Netflix) on my 370. It just sits at a black screen. I tried on a BDP-S380 in the bedroom, and it did start. I guess I'll finally swap the two.

I guess we can hope they come out with a firmware update soon

I have never tried loading with an USB drive in so could not say. Sorry

Streaming? DVD? Blu-Ray?

I happened to rent this disc on BR this week. When it comes I'll see if it works for me.

What firmware are you running?
/j

OK, this seems a bit confusing. I swapped the players, and it STILL didn't work on the main system!! My first thought was that some new BD Java security was not compatible with passing through my receiver. I then tried it on the bedroom TV, and it also didn't work. As a test, I removed the thumb drive and Ethernet connection. It worked on the 370!! I then repeated that on the 380, and it worked! I then re-tried the drives and Ethernet, and it still seems to work, although that was a few hours after my first tries.

I don't know what happened. Maybe it was trying to find an Internet connection to check for menu or other updates, and something wasn't working.

Otherwise, the only other nasty thing about this title is that it has NO bookmarking. Nothing automatic or manual.

The 370 and 380 both are using the latest available firmware. The main system goes through a receiver (Onkyo TX-NR609) to my TV (Sony KV-46EX700). The bedroom setup is just a simple HDMI connection to a Samsung LN19A450.

The 380 has a bug where it sometimes doesn't initialize it's Ethernet connection. I have to unplug/plug the cable, or go through the Network menus and just step through the wired Network setup. That's why it probably worked initially, as it couldn't access the network. It's not just me, as others have reported the same issue in the 380 forum.

I tried the Artist on my S370. With a drive plugged into the rear USB jack, it hangs (I let it sit for 5 minutes). With the drive removed - it prompts me that there's no storage space for the stuff it wants to download from the Internet, I click OK, and it comes up fine.

My firmware is the last version before the bug where they stopped prompting you before auto-downloading stuff on disk load. For my version (and, I believe, for the latest version, where the bug is fixed), it's supposed to prompt you first. Obviously there's something funky with this particular disk where, rather than prompting you, it tries to do something and hangs up. As long as you don't care about the downloaded stuff, you're fine.

Question for you - when it worked the 2nd time with the drive inserted, how long did it take to start up and what prompts did you get? Maybe I should finally upgrade...

/j

I did some more experimenting. On both the 370 and 380, it wouldn't start with the Internet enabled. On both of them, going into the player settings and changing BD Internet access to 'Not Allow' works. Both have the latest firmware.

As a side note: "The Artist" is now also available on Netflix streaming.

I did finish the movie (I saw it in the original theater release, too.)

When you do that - does it ever prompt you to "connect to Internet?"

/j

The disk or player didn't give any error message when I tried to play it.

thanks -

I always thought we had two 370 decks. I just looked. Our Oakland deck is a 470. What is diff between 370 and 470 decks. I will recheck model number on our other deck next week in Miami. They were both bought about 20 months ago.

The 470 supports 3D. The 570 adds 1G of FlashROM so you don't need an external drive.

Thanks, Andy -
As I recall, we got these decks because I had read newer decks (starting in 2011?) would not process HD via component. We mainly use them for streaming, but do play a couple discs (blu-ray) a month. Our older 50" Panny plasma in Okld.only does component. Our 50" Panny in Miami does do HDMI.

Be aware that newer disks can also include a code that would disable HD on analog outputs.

Thanks for the reminder. Will make sure the few discs we get from Netflix in Okld are old. I assume this "code" wouldn't be in place when streaming?

I don't know about streaming. On the x70 and x80 series, Netflix is limited to 720p and DD 2.0. I don't know if they would bother limiting that. I don't know about other services.

Anyone have issues playing the new spiderman.? I got the disc from blockbuster (in the mail), got a message that i couldn't play the disc. I tried another disc and it worked fine. Im running the latest firmware

What kind of message did you get? Is the player Internet connected? You can go into the menus and disable the ability for BD's to have Internet access. That helped with "The Artist", which would lock up.

or just pull the memory stick (S370) that worked for me
/j

We played the Artist Blu-Ray from Netflix on our 470 w. no problem. We are connected to Panny Plasma via component. 470 is "hardwired" to internet.

Double-check your player settings to see if you disabled the ability for BD's to access the Internet. It's also possible the 470's firmware is just slightly different due to the 3D support.