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post #2761 of 2844
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Originally Posted by mystic_sniper28 View Post

sadly you're dealing with a frame rate speed issue...
hdmi isn't the best solution for dvd playback, firmwre will only fix bug issues with gui

If that's the case, ARE there any decent Blu-ray players that can play DVD's with upscaling that won't have the video blackout issue (or at least minimize it) through HDMI?
post #2762 of 2844
for dvd playback across hdmi, unless you have software that is able to remove and re-encode the dvd source, the likelihood of stopping judder effect with hdmi isn't going to happen no bd player i have seen at present has been able to go from 60fps down to a native 24fps frame rate..
post #2763 of 2844
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Originally Posted by mystic_sniper28 View Post

for dvd playback across hdmi, unless you have software that is able to remove and re-encode the dvd source, the likelihood of stopping judder effect with hdmi isn't going to happen no bd player i have seen at present has been able to go from 60fps down to a native 24fps frame rate..

It's not a BD player, but my HD-A20 does a decent job most of the time on 24fps DVD playback. Seems like there should be a BD player that could do that, perhaps the Oppos?
post #2764 of 2844
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

I don't think Sony is updating the firmware on the x70 series anymore. It's been well over a year. I both a 370 and a 380. The 380 was updated a month or so ago, but I assume it too will be ignored now that the x90's are out, and probably the next generation coming out soon, if not already.
The issue isn't the firmware, but the disks themselves. They can now contain a code that tells the player to disable analog outputs, or restrict them to SD. And, of course, DVD's will not upconvert on the component outputs under any circumstances. The best you'll get for them is 480p.

How is the latest Firmware release? I stopped upgrading around the time that they introduced a bug that slowed the loading time of all disks if you had a thumb drive plugged in.

Any flaws with the current "final" release?

/j
post #2765 of 2844
BD-370 won't play Titanic

I have tried two different copies of Titanic BD (non 3D) in my BD-370. It just gets to the part where it is loading the menus and the film strip animation just keeps on playing and the menus never come up. I checked for any updates from the players menu and it says it is at the latest version.

Has anyone seen this problem?

Thanks

John
post #2766 of 2844
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Originally Posted by jeffw_00 View Post

How is the latest Firmware release? I stopped upgrading around the time that they introduced a bug that slowed the loading time of all disks if you had a thumb drive plugged in.
Any flaws with the current "final" release?
/j

Anyone?

Thanks!
/j
post #2767 of 2844
I just tried to play "The Artist" (via Netflix) on my 370. It just sits at a black screen. I tried on a BDP-S380 in the bedroom, and it did start. I guess I'll finally swap the two.
post #2768 of 2844
I guess we can hope they come out with a firmware update soon
post #2769 of 2844
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Originally Posted by jeffw_00 View Post

Anyone?
Thanks!
/j

I have never tried loading with an USB drive in so could not say. Sorry
post #2770 of 2844
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

I just tried to play "The Artist" (via Netflix) on my 370. It just sits at a black screen. I tried on a BDP-S380 in the bedroom, and it did start. I guess I'll finally swap the two.

Streaming? DVD? Blu-Ray?

I happened to rent this disc on BR this week. When it comes I'll see if it works for me.

What firmware are you running?
/j
post #2771 of 2844
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

I just tried to play "The Artist" (via Netflix) on my 370. It just sits at a black screen. I tried on a BDP-S380 in the bedroom, and it did start. I guess I'll finally swap the two.
OK, this seems a bit confusing. I swapped the players, and it STILL didn't work on the main system!! My first thought was that some new BD Java security was not compatible with passing through my receiver. I then tried it on the bedroom TV, and it also didn't work. As a test, I removed the thumb drive and Ethernet connection. It worked on the 370!! I then repeated that on the 380, and it worked! I then re-tried the drives and Ethernet, and it still seems to work, although that was a few hours after my first tries.

I don't know what happened. Maybe it was trying to find an Internet connection to check for menu or other updates, and something wasn't working.

Otherwise, the only other nasty thing about this title is that it has NO bookmarking. Nothing automatic or manual.

The 370 and 380 both are using the latest available firmware. The main system goes through a receiver (Onkyo TX-NR609) to my TV (Sony KV-46EX700). The bedroom setup is just a simple HDMI connection to a Samsung LN19A450.

The 380 has a bug where it sometimes doesn't initialize it's Ethernet connection. I have to unplug/plug the cable, or go through the Network menus and just step through the wired Network setup. That's why it probably worked initially, as it couldn't access the network. It's not just me, as others have reported the same issue in the 380 forum.
post #2772 of 2844
I tried the Artist on my S370. With a drive plugged into the rear USB jack, it hangs (I let it sit for 5 minutes). With the drive removed - it prompts me that there's no storage space for the stuff it wants to download from the Internet, I click OK, and it comes up fine.

My firmware is the last version before the bug where they stopped prompting you before auto-downloading stuff on disk load. For my version (and, I believe, for the latest version, where the bug is fixed), it's supposed to prompt you first. Obviously there's something funky with this particular disk where, rather than prompting you, it tries to do something and hangs up. As long as you don't care about the downloaded stuff, you're fine.

Question for you - when it worked the 2nd time with the drive inserted, how long did it take to start up and what prompts did you get? Maybe I should finally upgrade...

/j
post #2773 of 2844
I did some more experimenting. On both the 370 and 380, it wouldn't start with the Internet enabled. On both of them, going into the player settings and changing BD Internet access to 'Not Allow' works. Both have the latest firmware.
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As a side note: "The Artist" is now also available on Netflix streaming.

I did finish the movie (I saw it in the original theater release, too.)
post #2775 of 2844
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

I did some more experimenting. On both the 370 and 380, it wouldn't start with the Internet enabled. On both of them, going into the player settings and changing BD Internet access to 'Not Allow' works. Both have the latest firmware.

When you do that - does it ever prompt you to "connect to Internet?"

/j
post #2776 of 2844
The disk or player didn't give any error message when I tried to play it.
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thanks -
post #2778 of 2844
I always thought we had two 370 decks. I just looked. Our Oakland deck is a 470. What is diff between 370 and 470 decks. I will recheck model number on our other deck next week in Miami. They were both bought about 20 months ago.
post #2779 of 2844
The 470 supports 3D. The 570 adds 1G of FlashROM so you don't need an external drive.
post #2780 of 2844
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

The 470 supports 3D. The 570 adds 1G of FlashROM so you don't need an external drive.

Thanks, Andy -
As I recall, we got these decks because I had read newer decks (starting in 2011?) would not process HD via component. We mainly use them for streaming, but do play a couple discs (blu-ray) a month. Our older 50" Panny plasma in Okld.only does component. Our 50" Panny in Miami does do HDMI.
post #2781 of 2844
Be aware that newer disks can also include a code that would disable HD on analog outputs.
post #2782 of 2844
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

Be aware that newer disks can also include a code that would disable HD on analog outputs.

Thanks for the reminder. Will make sure the few discs we get from Netflix in Okld are old. I assume this "code" wouldn't be in place when streaming?
post #2783 of 2844
I don't know about streaming. On the x70 and x80 series, Netflix is limited to 720p and DD 2.0. I don't know if they would bother limiting that. I don't know about other services.
post #2784 of 2844
Anyone have issues playing the new spiderman.? I got the disc from blockbuster (in the mail), got a message that i couldn't play the disc. I tried another disc and it worked fine. Im running the latest firmware
post #2785 of 2844
What kind of message did you get? Is the player Internet connected? You can go into the menus and disable the ability for BD's to have Internet access. That helped with "The Artist", which would lock up.
post #2786 of 2844
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

What kind of message did you get? Is the player Internet connected? You can go into the menus and disable the ability for BD's to have Internet access. That helped with "The Artist", which would lock up.

or just pull the memory stick (S370) that worked for me
/j
post #2787 of 2844
We played the Artist Blu-Ray from Netflix on our 470 w. no problem. We are connected to Panny Plasma via component. 470 is "hardwired" to internet.
post #2788 of 2844
Double-check your player settings to see if you disabled the ability for BD's to access the Internet. It's also possible the 470's firmware is just slightly different due to the 3D support.
post #2789 of 2844
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Originally Posted by andyross63 View Post

Double-check your player settings to see if you disabled the ability for BD's to access the Internet. It's also possible the 470's firmware is just slightly different due to the 3D support.

The player is hardwired to the internet. Ive never used the bd live feature.

I think it might be a disc issue. I get the error while the disc is trying to load.
post #2790 of 2844
Just upgraded the firmware to M03.R.769. Is it me or did this make all discs look very grainy with a lot of picture noise?
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