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post #2971 of 6383
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Originally Posted by Mamasboy View Post

I asked a while back if swapping out the hard drive was possible and got the answer below from @GizmoDVD. Then later @cmh928 gave some scary instructions that involved swapping spinning hard drives. However, now that I read the post again, it sounds like the swapping was to pull data of the old drive.

If upgrading is as simple as installing a larger green 5900 drive I'll be upgrade to one TB asap. Has anyone else upgraded their internal drive?

I have a feeling if these units were hugely popular there would be all kinds of cool hacking done on them. The user base is just too small for any hacking, but I can live with a hard drive upgrade from the tiny 250 gig.

see old hard drive swapping posts below:

I did it. If you want to swap in a new drive and not copy Existing Data it is very easy, you don't have to worry about spinning the drive and all that jibber jabber. It is a straight forward swap.

As I understand it The Hard drives are encoded to each individual player so another computer or player can not read the data, that why that talk about spinning the drive up and essentially unlocking the Data was talked about.

I got a $50 1 TB 3.5 Green Drive (thats the size in the Player, apparently a 2.5 laptop dive will work as well), swapped it in, then the player had to reformat it and prepare it for use (lock it to the player). Once format was at 100% I unplugged the player and rebooted. So far so good, but its only been a week. I uploaded a ton of stuff to the player this weekend and it did it all without complaint.
post #2972 of 6383
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Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post

I did it. If you want to swap in a new drive and not copy Existing Data it is very easy, you don't have to worry about spinning the drive and all that jibber jabber. It is a straight forward swap.

As I understand it The Hard drives are encoded to each individual player so another computer or player can not read the data, that why that talk about spinning the drive up and essentially unlocking the Data was talked about.

I got a $50 1 TB 3.5 Green Drive (thats the size in the Player, apparently a 2.5 laptop dive will work as well), swapped it in, then the player had to reformat it and prepare it for use (lock it to the player). Once format was at 100% I unplugged the player and rebooted. So far so good, but its only been a week. I uploaded a ton of stuff to the player this weekend and it did it all without complaint.

Very cool. All I have on the current hard drive is 56 gig of music copied from my PC, nothing that can't be replaced on the new drive. With a larger 2 gb drive, I could actually use the drive for storing MKV versions of my blu rays. I should be able to get 200+ movies on it.

Question, do movies on the internal hardrive display nicely like music does with gracenote?
post #2973 of 6383
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Originally Posted by TeeHex905 View Post

I think I made those points pretty clear in my post, I won't and don't pretend to know what happens when you try to connect the BD590 to a Windows box - don't have one handy to play with.

I must admit that I only skimmed your post because so many people have had the same problem as you, but were using Windows 7. So, I thought you were having the same problem.
post #2974 of 6383
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Originally Posted by Mamasboy View Post

Very cool. All I have on the current hard drive is 56 gig of music copied from my PC, nothing that can't be replaced on the new drive. With a larger 2 gb drive, I could actually use the drive for storing MKV versions of my blu rays. I should be able to get 200+ movies on it.

Question, do movies on the internal hardrive display nicely like music does with gracenote?

I haven't used gracenote yet, I plan to add our music to the player tonight or tomorrow.
But no, on the video side of things it is just a plain interface, like browsing folder content on a connected computer. A very boring interface compared to the music browser.

My James Bond movies and Star Wars movies have little cover jpgs in the folder and the player doesn't recognize them or display them in movie mode.

BTW here is the Hard Drive I got Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Green SATA
They had a sale a them a few weeks ago.

Easy swap, took me less than 10 min.

3 screws hold the cover on,
4 screws hold the HD bracket to the frame of the player,
and 4 hold the HD to the bracket

I should have written down the power usage.

The player recognizes the HD is new/unformatted when you browse the movie area (maybe it will do it for any feature were it reads the HD) it will ask you to format it, once it hit 100% I couldn't get it to respond to the remote so I just unpluged it, it booted up fine and so far has worked great.
post #2975 of 6383
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Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
I haven't used gracenote yet, I plan to add our music to the player tonight or tomorrow.
But no, on the video side of things it is just a plain interface, like browsing folder content on a connected computer. A very boring interface compared to the music browser.

My James Bond movies and Star Wars movies have little cover jpgs in the folder and the player doesn't recognize them or display them in movie mode.

BTW here is the Hard Drive I got Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Green SATA
They had a sale a them a few weeks ago.

Easy swap, took me less than 10 min.

3 screws hold the cover on,
4 screws hold the HD bracket to the frame of the player,
and 4 hold the HD to the bracket

I should have written down the power usage.

The player recognizes the HD is new/unformatted when you browse the movie area (maybe it will do it for any feature were it reads the HD) it will ask you to format it, once it hit 100% I couldn't get it to respond to the remote so I just unpluged it, it booted up fine and so far has worked great.
Adding a larger hard drive was a question I asked before I bought this unit. Based on the answers I thought there was little hope.

I already ordered a green Western Digital WD20EADS 2 tb and will be adding it in a few days. Can't wait to start loading it up with movies.
post #2976 of 6383
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Originally Posted by Mamasboy View Post
Adding a larger hard drive was a question I asked before I bought this unit. Based on the answers I thought there was little hope.

I already ordered a green Western Digital WD20EADS 2 tb and will be adding it in a few days. Can't wait to start loading it up with movies.
Cool! let me know how it works.

I wanted to go with 2tb but was afraid it might draw too much power. The original write used a 1tb green drive so thats what I went with.
post #2977 of 6383
New firmware tonight for my USA BD-570, will let everyone know what's new.

-Ken
post #2978 of 6383
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Originally Posted by kenvt View Post
New firmware tonight for my USA BD-570, will let everyone know what's new.

-Ken
What version of firmware?
post #2979 of 6383
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Originally Posted by DeAd MiKe 187 View Post

What version of firmware?

Sorry don't know and can't get to it right now, but I can tell you it wasn't there yesterday.

-Ken
post #2980 of 6383
Hi My current SW version is 283.C seems like a new version 323 is out but it fails during the update process....is there a way to upgrade via the USB?
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I downloaded a new update either friday or saturday (don't remember which day) and it failed the install then failed the re-download numerous time before success. After install I looked for any changes and didn't find any obvious changes, I'm hoping the BD570 gets the 9 new apps that the TVs are getting.
post #2982 of 6383
BTW I think I recall seeing 323 in the software version. Looking forward to seeing if anyone else finds any differences in the update.
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I just checked my software version and it is in fact 323.c. I found no visible enhancements to this update, but then I'm just missing something. Anxious to see everyone else's findings.
post #2984 of 6383
Just put in an order for the 570 but the drive upgrade on the 590 is very intriguing. I have a 2TB WD20EARS that I could put in a 590. I currently have a HTPC that has 4TB of storage with 2TB dedicated to Blu-Ray ISOS. I'm thinking of converting them to MKV and putting them onto a 590. Hmmmm, what to do........
post #2985 of 6383
hi.. I'm new here and have been looking at these LG BD players. I was just wondering if anyone has compared the internals of the 570 and 590. Do they have the same main board? It seems the only difference between them is the hard drive. I know many times I've found similar models like this to have identical hardware.

So, my ultimate question: Does the 570 have the same SATA connector found in the 590. If so, I wonder if a hard drive could be added, then flashed with the 590 firmware.

Sorry if this has been asked and answered before. I havn't had chance to read all 100 pages of this thread yet.. lol Only about 20 so far.

Thanks,
EB
post #2986 of 6383
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Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
Cool! let me know how it works.

I wanted to go with 2tb but was afraid it might draw too much power. The original write used a 1tb green drive so thats what I went with.
I was thinking the same thing, but if it does not work properly I can always drop it in my computer for more storage.
post #2987 of 6383
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Originally Posted by pegb856 View Post
I downloaded a new update either friday or saturday (don't remember which day) and it failed the install then failed the re-download numerous time before success. After install I looked for any changes and didn't find any obvious changes, I'm hoping the BD570 gets the 9 new apps that the TVs are getting.
I'll echo the above. I got the message that new firmware was available. The download took about 20 minutes, and then it went to the update screen and hung there for maybe 45 minutes. I assumed that the update failed for some reason, and pulled the plug and repeated the process. I ended up pulling the plug on failed updates twice more before I then decided to just let it sit on the update screen as long as it wanted. When I checked back several hours later, the unit had powered itself off. Upon powering up, I noticed that I had the new firmware.

The moral of the story seems to be to let the "update" screen stay up as long as it wants to. As someone who is familiar with reprogramming FPGA's, I can't imagine that the firmware update really takes hours versus minutes. But I just want to use the player, not debug why the updates take so long.

RT
post #2988 of 6383
Updated my BD550, took longer than usual to download and forever to install, what the heck did they push out in that one, can't say I noticed much of anything. Was hoping for a new Netflix interface, meh...

Was there always a search function in the Divx channel? Thought that might be new, it also feels different, maybe like it doesn't instant play as fast when your scrolling around now, which always drove me nuts, not that its much better if any.

Watched Toy Story 3 last night, beautiful and wonderful movie, but it kept skipping ahead about five or six different places on the disc consistently. If I scan back, it did it again at the exact spot, usually jumping ahead to the next chapter, I'd have to scan past the glitch spot to get it to continue. BD-live off, 24Hz on. Never tried it at 60Hz, shouldn't have to! What do ya think bad disk?
post #2989 of 6383
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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf... View Post

Updated my BD550, took longer than usual to download and forever to install, what the heck did they push out in that one, can't say I noticed much of anything. Was hoping for a new Netflix interface, meh...

Was there always a search function in the Divx channel? Thought that might be new, it also feels different, maybe like it doesn't instant play as fast when your scrolling around now, which always drove me nuts, not that its much better if any.

Watched Toy Story 3 last night, beautiful and wonderful movie, but it kept skipping ahead about five or six different places on the disc consistently. If I scan back, it did it again at the exact spot, usually jumping ahead to the next chapter, I'd have to scan past the glitch spot to get it to continue. BD-live off, 24Hz on. Never tried it at 60Hz, shouldn't have to! What do ya think bad disk?

Your disc is fine, the player is not.

I believe that everyone that plays TS3 (and some other discs) at 24p have this issue. I can tell you that the first skip you saw was when the cowgirl was being dropped into the plastic trash bag.

I'm going to try downgrading to the .211c firmware tonight after first trying a 'hard reset' that was suggested during and LG chat (not holding my breath on that one). I have a week or so to get this working before my 30-day return period expires.
post #2990 of 6383
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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf... View Post

Updated my BD550, took longer than usual to download and forever to install, what the heck did they push out in that one, can't say I noticed much of anything. Was hoping for a new Netflix interface, meh...

I really hope they didn't put Cinavia (the new evil audio watermark DRM) back. They took it out in the .300C firmware because it was causing a lot of problems. I really hope that it never makes it back...
post #2991 of 6383
Going to get the BD570 for my dads birthday (Decemer 13th). Can't wait to show him all the features. I kinda want to go for the 590 but if I go that high money wise, I might as well get a ps3 for him.
post #2992 of 6383
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Originally Posted by suikostinger View Post

Going to get the BD570 for my dads birthday (Decemer 13th). Can't wait to show him all the features. I kinda want to go for the 590 but if I go that high money wise, I might as well get a ps3 for him.

I don't know if there is that much of an advantage to the bd590 but they are out there for around $200 w/free shipping. I actually thought we'd see a super Black Friday deal on them,,,
post #2993 of 6383
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Originally Posted by suikostinger View Post

I kinda want to go for the 590 but if I go that high money wise, I might as well get a ps3 for him.

In hindsight, for $80 more the PS3 probably would have been the way to go for me. It seems to do everything the LG590 can do and more. If the PS3 gets Google TV I may have to buy one anyway.

Still, at $218 the LG590 is the best mini home media center money can buy.
post #2994 of 6383
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Originally Posted by Mamasboy View Post

In hindsight, for $80 more the PS3 probably would have been the way to go for me. It seems to do everything the LG590 can do and more. If the PS3 gets Google TV I may have to buy one anyway.

Still, at $218 the LG590 is the best mini home media center money can buy.

The thing is. The birthday present is from my mom and sister. I do the research for them and try to get the best one. My mom was going to spend $80 on him and my sister $50. So $140 is over their price range in the first place. No way I could get $80 more out of them. I picked up the c6500 yesterday and sent it back yesterday. I HATED the thing. Was very slow (literally took 5 minutes to load Avatar). Couldn't connect to the net wireless or wired until I got a USB and did the firmware update. (No password on his internet). Every time I booted up the BD I had to reconnect which took a long time and I couldn't get the thing to work with Nero. I have the 32le5400 TV, so I know LG loves Nero, which is what he has on his computer also.
post #2995 of 6383
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Originally Posted by suikostinger View Post

The thing is. The birthday present is from my mom and sister. I do the research for them and try to get the best one. My mom was going to spend $80 on him and my sister $50. So $140 is over their price range in the first place. No way I could get $80 more out of them. I picked up the c6500 yesterday and sent it back yesterday. I HATED the thing. Was very slow (literally took 5 minutes to load Avatar). Couldn't connect to the net wireless or wired until I got a USB and did the firmware update. (No password on his internet). Every time I booted up the BD I had to reconnect which took a long time and I couldn't get the thing to work with Nero. I have the 32le5400 TV, so I know LG loves Nero, which is what he has on his computer also.

You probably should go with the BD570 then which would be in your price range. It's much cheaper and if he wants storage at the unit in the future it has a USB port to connect an external hard drive that he can always buy if needed.
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I was hoping the new update to my BD570 would fix the skipping of Avatar Extended Edition at certain scenes but it did not. I tried the disc on a Samsung BD player and it was fine. Anyone else experiencing the same?
post #2997 of 6383
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Originally Posted by kholdstares View Post

I was hoping the new update to my BD570 would fix the skipping of Avatar Extended Edition at certain scenes but it did not. I tried the disc on a Samsung BD player and it was fine. Anyone else experiencing the same?

Makes me wonder what the purpose of this update was, since none of us can find anything that was fixed.
post #2998 of 6383
As a summary - yes, the update does take FOREVER to download and then FOREVER AND A DAY to update. And when it is updating, the blue scroll hangs for extended periods so it appears to be frozen, but it likely is not -don't lose patience. Just go have a snack or something while it does its thing. And most frustratingly, there does not appear to be any news apps or other enhancements or fixes. I noticed over at an Amazon forum someone mentioned a new app, but they never say what it was . . .could it be a 3D enhancement? Doubtful. What I am betting on is just a wiggy update that will soon be replaced.
post #2999 of 6383
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Originally Posted by mcoletti View Post

Your disc is fine, the player is not.

I believe that everyone that plays TS3 (and some other discs) at 24p have this issue. I can tell you that the first skip you saw was when the cowgirl was being dropped into the plastic trash bag.

I'm going to try downgrading to the .211c firmware tonight after first trying a 'hard reset' that was suggested during and LG chat (not holding my breath on that one). I have a week or so to get this working before my 30-day return period expires.

Haa!, that's exactly the first skip, what a shame, I've had this happen in a few other BD's though not nearly as much as this. Thought it may be something to do with the 24Hz, wonder what the hell causes it and if they're even working on a fix?

So maybe the firmware is botched then?

Saw this on the Amazon forum, "I just bought a BD 570. No problem with connecting to my home wireless network. It came with the s/w version of BD.8.31.228.c and prompted me for a firware update to the s/w BD.8.31.323.c. I tried to download the update twice and both times failed at the end of the download. Called LG 1-800 and I was told there was an issue with the latest update. The rep also said it would be fixed in about a week. Anyone has a similar problem? I think I might have gotten a defective one and thinking about to return it and get a Sony instead." - http://www.amazon.com/Firmware-updat...&cdSort=newest
post #3000 of 6383
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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf... View Post


Haa!, that's exactly the first skip, what a shame, I've had this happen in a few other BD's though not nearly as much as this. Thought it may be something to do with the 24Hz, wonder what the hell causes it and if they're even working on a fix?

So maybe the firmware is botched then?

Saw this on the Amazon forum, "I just bought a BD 570. No problem with connecting to my home wireless network. It came with the s/w version of BD.8.31.228.c and prompted me for a firware update to the s/w BD.8.31.323.c. I tried to download the update twice and both times failed at the end of the download. Called LG 1-800 and I was told there was an issue with the latest update. The rep also said it would be fixed in about a week. Anyone has a similar problem? I think I might have gotten a defective one and thinking about to return it and get a Sony instead." - http://www.amazon.com/Firmware-updat...&cdSort=newest

My 550 has shown that an update is available for the last couple of days but has been unable to process the download. Glad to hear that it is their problem ( I.e. Not my 550)
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