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post #2011 of 4426
1/8/11 at 7:17pm
I am in need of a 1080p TV that I can also use as a computer monitor. I Looking for something 32" and under. Preferably 120Hz input, but no biggie.
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post #2012 of 4426
1/8/11 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by preludejtstyle View Post

I am in need of a 1080p TV that I can also use as a computer monitor. I Looking for something 32" and under. Preferably 120Hz input, but no biggie.

LG 32LD450, make sure you get one with an IPS panel.
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post #2013 of 4426
1/8/11 at 9:21pm
1. Budget- $800

2. Seating distance- 8-12ft.

3. Size/placement limitations- 46-47in. no placement limitations.

4. Uses and sources- HDTV, Blu Ray, some gaming (Wii)

5. Room lighting- won't be a problem.

Will be my first LCD and foray into the HD world.

Some that I've been looking at

LG 47LD520
Sony KDL46EX500
Toshiba 46G300U
Vizio E470VL
Samsung LN46C530 and LN46C600
Philips 46PFL5505D

Would you choose any of these or do you have any other suggestions?
Thank you.
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post #2014 of 4426
1/8/11 at 11:55pm
1.how is the lag on the pn50c8000, i am going to be using it mainly for gaming. i cant find much information on this.
2.also when are the new 2011 samsungs coming out? should i just wait for them? if not how would purchasing a refurb for the 8000 work out? is there a chance ill get some burnt out panel? there a few company's on a auction site selling them with a lot of 10 or so but they are all manufacturer refurbs.
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post #2015 of 4426
1/9/11 at 12:58am
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Originally Posted by stillerhd View Post

1. Budget- $800

2. Seating distance- 8-12ft.

3. Size/placement limitations- 46-47in. no placement limitations.

4. Uses and sources- HDTV, Blu Ray, some gaming (Wii)

5. Room lighting- won't be a problem.

Will be my first LCD and foray into the HD world.

Some that I've been looking at

LG 47LD520
Sony KDL46EX500
Toshiba 46G300U
Vizio E470VL
Samsung LN46C530 and LN46C600
Philips 46PFL5505D

Would you choose any of these or do you have any other suggestions?
Thank you.

Sony 46EX500 would be my recommendation.

The Samsung 46C630 would be my first choice if video quality was your only purpose. Its input lag is poor for gaming.

The LG LD520 would be my 3rd recommendation from that list. But its video PQ isnt as good as the Sony EX500.
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post #2016 of 4426
1/9/11 at 3:36pm
Thanks EV, will be looking into your suggestions.
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post #2017 of 4426
1/9/11 at 9:25pm
1. Budget: 2000 - 2500
2. Seating distance - 8 feet
3. Size/placement limitations: wont be wall mounted. My tv stand is 32" high (yes I have a TV stand and no tv ;-)
4. Uses and sources: gaming, x-box, ps3, wii. Will be watching tv from avi sources (from computer) and blu-ray/dvd's mainly. Not planning to get cable tv...okay with 3d if it's within the budget... not a priority...)
5. Room lighting: overhead, one source. no worries on outside glare.
6. Buying timeline (6 months)

The one I have my eye on as the price is going down is the Samsung UNC558000.

What do you think?

Thanks so much!
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post #2018 of 4426
1/10/11 at 6:54am
Hey guys, got some christmas money left over and am looking to upgrade my 23in Samsung.

1. Budget ~$450 for the TV
2. Seating distance 8-10 ft
3. Size/placement limitations - preferably 37in, but not any larger (don't want the tv to take over the room)
4. Uses and sources - Netflix streaming, Hulu streaming, Xbox 360, possibly OTA-HD and Blu-ray, no cable
5. Room lighting - large windows on adjacent walls, tv in that corner to avoid glare

I am looking at the Panasonic TC-L37U22 37-Inch 1080p LCD, which fits right into my price range. Any thoughts on that, or other suggestions?
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post #2019 of 4426
1/10/11 at 7:02am
1. Budget up to $1000 before tax

2. Seating distance 7-12 Feet

3. Size/placement limitations None

4. Uses and sources XBOX 360, HD Programming via cable, Movies

5. Room lighting Bright Room

I am considering the Samsung UN46c5000 or the Sony KDL46-EX711
Both are LED but I keep hearing about Flashlighting with LED's. Should I be concerned?
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post #2020 of 4426
1/10/11 at 8:16am
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Originally Posted by fxef79 View Post
I'm replacing my 10+ year 27" RCA CRT which is now so fuzzy that I can't even read most of the text in Forza3 and Halo3, or in some scrolling "tickers" at the bottom of some news channels. I'm debating between the Panasonic TC-L42U25 (Amazon, today only, $499) and the Sony Bravia KDL-40EX401 (Sam's Club, $548). This is the "whole house" usage living room TV... Me, wife, and my 2 kids are 10 and 11.

1. Budget: 500-600 - but you knew that from my two choices.

2. Seating distance: The room is 14' wide x 20' long, TV on the short wall. Seating distance is mainly 8'-12' - some seating is as much as 45 degrees from center. While gaming seating would be centered and 5-7ft.

3. Size/placement limitations: inside an existing armoire, absolute MAX width is 42.5". Base of the TV will be about 30" from the floor.

4. Uses and sources: 33% TV, 33% gaming on Xbox360 (not sure whether I'll use component or HDMI), the other 33% will be either DVD from an upconverting Panasonic home theater system (i don't have a BD player yet, and likely won't for at least a year), or streamed video from miscellaneous Internet sources. We are NOT big sports watchers, but we do enjoy fast-moving action movies.

5. Room lighting: 9' wide of windows on the wall directly opposite the TV, and 9' of windows on the right side wall (as you are facing the TV). Artificial lighting is a single bulb incandescent fixture in the center of the ceiling, and occasionally two lamps on either side of the armoire (and therefore behind the plane of the TV).

Gaming lag is important, but so is PQ (I know... i'm really straining it by saying PQ is important with a $500 budget!). I personally would dearly love to get plasma, but it's out of the question because the kids will NOT be reliable to prevent long-term DVD Menus, paused games, etc.

I'm really torn on the 60Hz vs 120Hz issue. Obviously 120 is supposed to be better, but then there's the reports that it makes gaming lag worse, as well as the dreaded Soap Opera Effect. Recently I watched a brand new LED 55" Samsung 3D TV get installed for my boss... before he arrived we had it tuned in to the movie "Single White Female". I seriously didn't recognize the movie at first because of the super "artificial" feeling I got from the video smoothing. I HATED it.

I value the Sony for it's better contrast ratio, and overall there's a lot more positive information out there about this unit. As well, it's +1 HDMI and +1 component video connections. Further, it will play mpg through USB. However the Panasonic also has generally strong reviews, is +2" in size, and 120Hz. However far lower contrast ratio. As well, I can't find reliable information on just what kind of panel it has. Finally, I would prefer a unit that has as much calibration configuration options as possible - I pretty much hate every manufacturer's pre-sets.

Help!

Well, I pulled the trigger on the Panasonic. 120Hz + IPS viewing angle + some reports of lower gaming lag + extra 2" + HDMI CEC compatible with my Panasonic audio/theater system... I'm hoping will all outweigh the possible better black levels on the Sony.
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post #2021 of 4426
1/10/11 at 8:58am
What is the best 50" - 55"LCD panel with 24p for use in a black room? Blu-Ray and xbox sources.
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post #2022 of 4426
1/10/11 at 9:05am
Now that Superbowl Season is coming up I am sure there will be a lot of great deals on TV's.

Based upon my original Criteria, I was looking at the XVT3D554SV and the XVT553SV and the ln55c650


but with things starting to go on Sale should I be looking at something better just for a few hundred more? Still would like to stay below $1700 or so.
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post #2023 of 4426
1/10/11 at 10:15am
I was pretty close to being set on a 55" for my basement once its finished but now we've changed our minds on where to put the TV and will be sitting further (~13 ft instead of ~8ft) and want to go with a 60" for that distance. Any help?

1. Budget- $2200
2. Seating distance- 10-14 ft.

3. Size/placement limitations- 60 in. no placement limitations.

4. Uses and sources- HDTV, Blu Ray, some gaming (PS3/Wii)

5. Room lighting- recessed dimmable, shouldn't be an issue

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Some that I've been looking at

Sharp LC60E78UN (seems like a BB only model but has good reviews online and on this board) - great price
Sony KDL60EX500 - great reviews and supposedly better for equal light (CCFL) and gaming response.
Sony KDL60EX700 (ex701 for Sam's Club variant) which they have for a GREAT price at my local club. Edge LED worries me for PQ and gaming lag
Samsung UN60C6300 - price is high end of budget and LED worries

Thanks!
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post #2024 of 4426
1/10/11 at 10:32am
I wish I could find a better price on the C8000 55 LED from Samsung. Looks like I have to wait till the 28th for my TV now. Too bad we can't know when prices are going to go down again. They seem to be creeping back up.
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post #2025 of 4426
1/10/11 at 11:14am
Samsung is directly refunding my purchase price for my UN55C6500 due to the fact they can't eliminate the awful color smearing I have experienced on two sets.
I'd like to replace it with a Sony HX800 or 55LX6500, or a 55lx9500 (the price difference between the two isn't that much), but I am open to suggestions. Both of those are around the same price online and with what I will receive as my refund when they come to pick the television up.

Can anyone offer me suggestions between the three, or a different model to look at? My only requirements are the TV needs to be LED and 52+ inches and under $2300 retail. I have no use for 3d so it's not a requirement. Samsung is not an option after my experience with them.
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post #2026 of 4426
1/10/11 at 1:11pm
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Sharp LC60E78UN (seems like a BB only model but has good reviews online and on this board) - great price
Sony KDL60EX500 - great reviews and supposedly better for equal light (CCFL) and gaming response.

Both of these are great for PQ and your purposes. The EX500 is more well known, but the Sharp is great too.
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post #2027 of 4426
1/10/11 at 1:32pm
1. Budget- $800
2. Seating distance- 8-12 ft
3. Size/placement limitations- none
4. Uses and sources- HDTV, Blu Ray, some gaming (PS3/Wii)
5. Room lighting- windows, lamps

What I've been looking at:
Televisions available from costco for amex/costco warranty/return bonus
Vizio E470VL
LG 46LD550
Vizio M470VT

PQ is more important to me than gaming lag
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post #2028 of 4426
1/10/11 at 4:52pm
I've been away from the TV/display scene since I bought my 50-inch Panasonic 5UY plasma quite a number of years ago. I'm looking for recommendations on an excellent quality LED TV to replace the old faithful (which will be moved into another area). Some criteria:
  1. budget 2500-3000, can stretch a bit
  2. 55 inch diagonal, approximately 8 foot viewing distance
  3. moderately bright room (two curtained windows about 12 feet behind the viewers) with some reflection from the windows, so a non-glossy display is probably best
  4. wall mount, don't need super-thin
  5. primarily used for TV/Blue Ray viewing, plus casual gaming
  6. speakers not important as will feed Yamaha RX-V3900
  7. should probably consider 3D
  8. full array backlighting seems desirable
  9. not afraid to purchase via mail order
I've looked a bit at the Samsung UN55C8000, but that's about it. I'm a little ambivalent about a Sony purchase as I'm still torqued about their rootkit stunt for audio CD "rights management".

Any suggestions appreciated!
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post #2029 of 4426
1/10/11 at 5:17pm
Based on the past two weeks of research I am leaning towards the Vizio XVT553, even with the reported blooming and power-up issues some purchasers have apparently been experiencing. It just seems like a fantastic value.

However, I figure I would ask if anyone has any suggestions on a 55" or larger LED, CCFL LCD, or plasma that is non-3D and does not have internet apps. I really don't have any burning desire for 3D and can easily just buy a Roku or other set top device for streaming (I am happy with my Netflix sub). I am quite a bit leery of edge-lit LEDs, but not 100% opposed.

I guess I am curious about recommendations for more "vanilla" televisions compared to the current stock that have all these bells and whistles. Just a really nice television that would be hooked up to a Kenwood receiver, blu-ray, and Comcast HD DVR. Maybe I am just cynical, but I consider all these 3D, internet app laden, edge-lit televisions as first generation, and I try and stay away from first gen products.

But maybe the Vizio is still the way to go. My only other flat screen is a 37" Vizio I received as a gift about four years ago. I never had any issues with the set, so why not go with them again, I suppose. Plus, I plan on finishing the basement Spring 2012 and will need to get another television and much of this "new" tech will have been worked out.

Any thoughts are appreciated.
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post #2030 of 4426
1/10/11 at 7:39pm
Hi , my toshiba 46xv540 panel has became defective and since it's under warranty il be getting it change for a new TV between these to models and would like to know which one has a better image quality.


The Sharp LC46LE820UN has 4 colour and a 10 bit panel which to offer more colour than the Samsung and also the speakers are 35W compare to the 20W of the Samsung. I have a Wii and a 360 and the 4 ms would definitely help.


The Samsung UN46C7000 has an ultra clear panel with reduce reflection and a light sensor which will help since the TV is in a room where there's a lot of light (there's 8 windows in the room) versus the Sharp that has only the high brightness ratio feature. It has 240hz and 3D but the 240hz is not yet available and whether i have 3D or not doesn't bother me.

I went at the store (The Brick) and both TV's had the same number of inputs and the image quality of both look very similar but the Sharp and the Samsung section were not close to each other and also the Samsung section was brighter than the Sharp section so it was hard to compare.


I would like to know what people think about these TV's and how they compare to each other , thanks.
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post #2031 of 4426
1/10/11 at 8:53pm
I love my sony 55hx800 that I just purchased for the living room. I am now in search of one for the bedroom..

size: 40-42
budget max: 700
distance: 10ft
purpose: blu-ray, verizon fios for sports, movies, shows etc.., ps3/xbox

I will probably need a dark curtain for the bedroom, because the window will be facing the tv. I also like led, but I am on a budget. Would it be a big difference from lcd? The one in the living room is led and it's great!
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post #2032 of 4426
1/10/11 at 11:27pm
Hello, seeking to purchase a 55" TV and at this point, and am considering the Samsung LN55C650 or LG 55LE5500 as they seem to have pretty good reviews for the most part, although I'm open to other recommendations. Couple of things to note:

1) Don't want to spend more than $1300-$1400, figure Super Bowl/New Model releases will push the prices down shortly
2) Intended for living room with a fair amount of light
3) Casual gaming, including FPS on Xbox 360. Read about input lag on the Samsung, is it unplayable? What about re-labeling the input "fix"? How does the LG compare?
4) Panel lottery concerns. Does the LG have this as well?
5) Prefer to have Internet Apps. Do the apps get updated and can new apps be added or would I be stuck with what the TV comes with?

Thanks
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post #2033 of 4426
1/11/11 at 10:32am
Budget- $800-1300
2. Seating distance- 12-13 ft
3. Size/placement limitations- 55" max
4. Uses and sources- HDTV, Blu Ray, DVD's, SD TV shows and movies (avi's), no gaming
5. Room lighting- lots of windows

I have narrowed my search down to a Sony 46EX500 or 55EX500 after reading reviews and auditioning several of them at stores (Ultimate and Best Buy). I really like this model but I'm having a hard time justifying spending the money on one, especially the 46 (which would make the wife happier), given my seating distance. According to the info I have found, at 12-13 ft, I might not even be able to tell the difference between it and a SDTV much less take advantage of 1080p (CarltonBale.com)

Can anyone with that has similar constraints comment on their satisfaction with they setup? Maybe I'm putting to much stock in the viewing distance chart put together by Carlton Bale and would be happy with a 46" TV.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks
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post #2034 of 4426
1/11/11 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by Trampus View Post

Budget- $800-1300
2. Seating distance- 12-13 ft
3. Size/placement limitations- 55" max
4. Uses and sources- HDTV, Blu Ray, DVD's, SD TV shows and movies (avi's), no gaming
5. Room lighting- lots of windows

I have narrowed my search down to a Sony 46EX500 or 55EX500 after reading reviews and auditioning several of them at stores (Ultimate and Best Buy). I really like this model but I'm having a hard time justifying spending the money on one, especially the 46 (which would make the wife happier), given my seating distance. According to the info I have found, at 12-13 ft, I might not even be able to tell the difference between it and a SDTV much less take advantage of 1080p (CarltonBale.com)

Can anyone with that has similar constraints comment on their satisfaction with they setup? Maybe I'm putting to much stock in the viewing distance chart put together by Carlton Bale and would be happy with a 46" TV.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks

Dont know what you are on about, the size of the screen or the resolution of the screen.

But at that distance, most people would prefer the 55"
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post #2035 of 4426
1/11/11 at 12:18pm
1. 1600 maybe alittle more
2. 8 to 12 feet
3. 50 inches
4. HDTV, blue-ray, ps3
5. 2 side windows, ceiling light

Have 2 yrs old daughter and she is ruff on my Sony tube
Want hardly any blur with sports and fast action if I have to pay alittle more will. Thanks
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post #2036 of 4426
1/11/11 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by Trampus View Post

Budget- $800-1300
2. Seating distance- 12-13 ft
3. Size/placement limitations- 55" max
4. Uses and sources- HDTV, Blu Ray, DVD's, SD TV shows and movies (avi's), no gaming
5. Room lighting- lots of windows

I have narrowed my search down to a Sony 46EX500 or 55EX500 after reading reviews and auditioning several of them at stores (Ultimate and Best Buy). I really like this model but I'm having a hard time justifying spending the money on one, especially the 46 (which would make the wife happier), given my seating distance. According to the info I have found, at 12-13 ft, I might not even be able to tell the difference between it and a SDTV much less take advantage of 1080p (CarltonBale.com)

Can anyone with that has similar constraints comment on their satisfaction with they setup? Maybe I'm putting to much stock in the viewing distance chart put together by Carlton Bale and would be happy with a 46" TV.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks

^^^^

Trampus,

By no means am I an expert, but my research over the years has led me to believe that at a distance of 12-13 feet, you would probably want a television in the range of 58" - 65". However, I do think you could get away with a 55" set at 12 feet, but that is as small as I would go at your stated distance. I think going any smaller will reduce the impact and immediacy of the viewing experience.

Also, in a room with lots of windows (that also lack blinds or drapes) you may want to lean towards either an LED LCD or CCFL LED.

I don't have any knowledge about the televisions you listed. However, you should look into the Vizio XVT553SV (there is a great forum on AVS decicated to the XVTs). I am about to pull the trigger on the Vizio. It is a little above your price range, but the XVT553 has been receiving a lot of solid reviews.
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post #2037 of 4426
1/11/11 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

Dont know what you are on about, the size of the screen or the resolution of the screen.

But at that distance, most people would prefer the 55"

Sorry if I didn't explain it very well EscapeVelocity. What I mean is that at a certain distance from a screen, 480, 720, and 1080 would all look pretty much the same because you are so far away from it. In my case, why would I pay extra money to get a 1080 TV when my eyes can't tell the difference between it and a 720 TV.

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Originally Posted by happyhour1973 View Post

^^^^

Trampus,

By no means am I an expert, but my research over the years has led me to believe that at a distance of 12-13 feet, you would probably want a television in the range of 58" - 65". However, I do think you could get away with a 55" set at 12 feet, but that is as small as I would go at your stated distance. I think going any smaller will reduce the impact and immediacy of the viewing experience.

Also, in a room with lots of windows (that also lack blinds or drapes) you may want to lean towards either an LED LCD or CCFL LED.

I don't have any knowledge about the televisions you listed. However, you should look into the Vizio XVT553SV (there is a great forum on AVS decicated to the XVTs). I am about to pull the trigger on the Vizio. It is a little above your price range, but the XVT553 has been receiving a lot of solid reviews.

Reducing the impact and immediacy of the viewing experience is exactly what I'm afraid of with getting a 46" TV. You and Escape are pretty much saying the same thing so I guess that rules out the 46". The wife said she felt overwhelmed when she was standing in front of the 55" but we were only about 8-9' away from it when she said that. Maybe I'll have her look at that size again but at 12-13' since that is our seating distance.

Thanks guys.
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post #2038 of 4426
1/11/11 at 2:15pm
Yeah, 720p 50" Plasma would be fine at that distance. There arent any 720p LCD sets on the market currently so that is a non issue, really. More resolution is always better, dont let anybody tell you otherwise. What is acceptable is a different story.

But yeah, you will want to get a larger set at 15 ft. viewing distance. 55" is a good price/performance level. At larger screen sizes the prices starts rising. 55" is a high production number sweet spot. Although the 60" Sony EX500 and Sharp 78UN are pretty good values.

Vizio XVT553SV
Samsung 55C630
Sony 55EX500

are all highly recommended. All 3 also come in 46/47" sizes.

A 720p 50" Samsung or Panasonic Plasma would be fine too.
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post #2039 of 4426
1/11/11 at 2:17pm
need a second tv for upstairs living room for kids to use.....hdtv is likely all it will be used for, maybe Wii

It is a bright room and both these have matte screen as far as I can determine

any preference?
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post #2040 of 4426
1/11/11 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by weirfan View Post

need a second tv for upstairs living room for kids to use.....hdtv is likely all it will be used for, maybe Wii

It is a bright room and both these have matte screen as far as I can determine

any preference?

The Sony will be a bit better in a bright room and is a little better as a gaming machine because of its lower input lag times (relative to the Sammy C630).

They both have fantastic Picture Quality, top notch available. However I would give a slight edge to Samsung here. But the Sony is top notch as well.
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