the "help me choose an LCD" thread - Page 70

Thanks I was thinking about a Sony EX500, any other sets that you think will be in my range during the SuperBowl sales.

Thanks for the reply. Funny you should mention the Sharp, as I just stumbled over that model (the 60E78UN and 88UN, also) and have been reading some great reviews.

I was all set with the Vizio and then started talking myself into something with less "new" tech and frills. Though, I think I am being too cynical.

happyhour, just make sure you stay away from Sharps yellow subpixel Quattron sets. I dont know if the 88UN is one, though, I do know the 78UN is not Quattron.

BTW, I pretty much agree with this..


Non passive 3D wont last, passive 3D will, but is less intrusive on the sets as a 2D monitor. Edge Lit makes for really slim chasis, but they havent worked the bugs out on that one yet. Id prefer to have Full Array LED, myself. The Internet Apps are not that great, you have much more flexibility with off board solutions (though integrated WiFi & Ethernet connectivity may be useful)....and it remains to be seen how much support they are going to give old discontinued products. But that is kindof a speculation on what the manufacturers are going to do...and they have upgraded older products already so. But you will have much more flexibility and customization, plus upgradability with Set Top Boxes and Nettop or Laptop HTPCs. Im not a big fan of the Internet Apps in BluRays either, for similar reasons. The PS3 however has been continuously upgraded firmware and software wise...and includes gaming ability and plays back BluRays...and improvements to its Internet Streaming connectivity...XBox Likewise, with XBMC, but lacks BluRay and I dont like that XBox Live BS requried for Streaming either, an extra cost.

1. Budget- $1000-1300
2. Seating distance- 6-8ft
3. Size/placement limitations- none
4. Uses and sources- Plex from mac mini, hdtv some eps3
5. Room lighting- controllable

What I've been looking at (samsungs):

46C6300 LED
LN46C750

My thoughts:

Whites seem brighter on the the LED
Don't care about 3D
240hz vs 120hz (concerned about giving up the extra 120 on the LED)
Form factor not a concern
Price is the same from online dealers
Samsung apps not a selling point
Off angle not a concern

I have not been able to find the 750 in person so can only base it off the c650. Wondering if there is a big PQ difference between the two. I have seen the LED set up close and I do like the vividness, but wondering if the 750 can achieve that as well through settings.

I'm currently haveing a hard time trying to decide between two TV's. The Sony 55EX500 and the Vizio XVT553SV. There is only a $300 price difference between the two, so price is not a concern.

The full-array LED backlighting with local dimming is driving me twards the Vizio. But the Vizio brand name and the "new technology" of LED is making me a bit nervous. Also there seems like there is alot more to go wrong, or break on the Vizio.

I like the "more proven" tech of CCFL back-lighting and the Sony brand. But I don't like the fact that the CCFL tech is dated, and can't produce the black levels of the full-array local dimming LED.

But all the apps, and internet software udates, and just the bells and whistles of the Vizio are really cool also....I don't know wich one to pick! Are my gripes with the Vizio really something to be concerned with?

I wouldnt worry about the Vizio brand name.

But you have made valid points. But I think you are overstating the a lot more to go wrong aspect of Local Dimming LED. LED is rock solid and its Full Array so no problems with backlight screen uniformity....and local dimming is a really basic light control mechanically, computerally, and electronically....even if the alogrythm is pretty sophisticated. Though you are certainly correct that it is another thing that can go wrong. But all the other Bells and Whistles add things that can go wrong too.

That Sony has the best CCFL black levels of any set ever produced, and beats most LED backlit sets, (though no locally dimmed models). CCFL just works.

You cant go too wrong either way.

You sound like you would enjoy the technology in the Vizio, so get that one.

Best set ever, or best LCD ever? I have a Pio Elite 101


bob

CCFL backlit LCD

Hi all,

I'm looking to replace my old Panasonic PT-501C14 since the bulb is starting to act up. Went to my local warehouse store and they have the LG 42LE5350 and Panasonic TC-42LD24 in the same price range. Which is a better TV? I use the TV mostly to watch sports, movies, and play video games.

Thanks in advance,
chiburger

Hey guys,

Just a quick question. In what section, if any, can we talk and ask about prices on TV sets?

Always thanks Escape Velocity for the Replies!

How does the XVT553SV compare with XVTPRO550SV

XVTPRO550SV is vaporware, never materialized. Though they might just be renamed and released this year.

Private Messages, I can recommend SlickDeals.net for information on HDTVs that go on sale.

I dont have too much in particular to say, but I would choose the 750.

EV, thanks for the rec. What about the 554? Pros, cons?

554 just came out. It will take some time to work out any problems and issues with the new models. One of the reasons that buying in the 2nd half of the year, is a good idea, as well as the pre Holiday Sales, also Summer Sales and August pre Football Season sales.

You can read the spec and feature list and compare them yourself.

I have no interest in 3D so, I would probably favor the less expensive 553, these days.

At this stage in the game I definitely think if someone is interested in LED, then they should go with the full array. The only major potential issue I have read about is blooming. However, edge-lit customers appear to be quite dismayed at the clouding and bleeding that they have been seeing on all types of manufacturers models.

I honestly think you are paying $200-$300 more just for the internet apps on a television set. For me, it just seems like one more new piece of technology that hasn't been smoothed out enough yet for my liking. Believe me, I want the access (my house is wired for cat6 ethernet), but not necessarily built into my set at this time. For $100 I can buy a Roku or something of the ilk and probably be perfectly fine with that.

In 1977 my father bought an initial model year Ford Fairmont. Fresh off the assembly line that car was a rolling pile of problems. My dad swore he would never purchase a vehicle the first year it rolls off the line. I think that always stuck with me and have always avoided first gen products and technology.

Obviously, 3D, internet apps, LED, etc. isn't going away and companies are racing to provide more and more features. And I realize that there will never be the perfect television (or at least it's in the eye of the beholder). However, I am just fine with biding my time until I personal feel comfortable with something, especially when $X,XXX are involved.

With all that said, I will probably end up with the Vizio.... (But that 78UN has my attention...thanks for letting me know about the 88).

I just did a quick research and teh 88UN seems to not be Quattron. It has a X-Gen Sharp panel though.

Looks pretty good.

Im debating between a few LCD's if anybody can help me out

Vizio E470VL
LG LD550 47"
Toshiba 46UX600U
Vizio M470NV
UN46C6300SFXZA I can get this one for a little more $ but if its worth it ill buy it.

Was thinking about the Sony KDL710 but read to many problems with the panels

All of them are pretty much in the same price range. Will be doing mostly gaming, movies, some TV from Dish HD box.

Gotcha thanks. Which one would you recommend that has a glossy glass surface (not matte). My sister is obsessed with the glossiness of Samsung.

With Comparable specs to the XVT553SV

Links to specs ... hopefully it'll help. (Remove space after http://)
LG- http:// service.velaro.com/transfer/spec-42LE5350.pdf

Panasonic - http:// www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Televisions/All-VIERA-Flat-Panel-HDTVs/model.TC-42LD24.S_11002_7000000000000005702#tabsection

I need to upgrade from my 32" Westinghouse LCD. Looking to to spend under $800 for an LCD TV. Size I'd like would be 46 or 47". It will be located in my family room basement so light is not an issue. Sitting around 10' away from the TV and will use it for watching HD TV and HD sports.

I've found quite a few in this price range but I have no idea what is good and what's not. Thank you for any suggestions you can provide.

Hello guys , well I just moved to my new home that came with a media room and now trying to decide on the tv and would love some help
Media room is 14by23
LCD like samsung or Sony
3d : yes!
Budget. $3000 +
What size would fit me better?
Thanks inadvance!

Looking for LCD , I've always loved how samsung and

The LG LD550 would be tops from your list.

The Sony EX500 and HX701 are also good choices.

The Vizio E470VL's PQ is subpar. The Vizio M470NV doesnt get very bright so contrast and performance during daytime suffer.

Samsung 46C630
Sony 46EX500

Depends on how far away and varied seating will be.

I dont do 3D recommendations.

Sony, Samsung and LG all have some nice products in the upper range with glossy screens.

Hello everyone I'm new here but have rattled my brain for a while now reading through countless threads about tv's. There is so much to tv's that the average person does not realize. So now after taking in all this wonderful information I'm confused on what to buy.
I have a 40" Sammy 720p older LCD, want to upgrade to a 46" LCD or perhaps an LED with a budget of $900 not including taxes and other fees.

My conclusions brought me to a few Samsung's within that price point and a few Sony's
Here are the main two contenders:

LN46C630K1F - from BB

KDL46EX500 - from BB

and was considering this LED, KDL46EX710 but I didnt get great impressions from reading the dedicated thread, I also didnt understand some of the terms such as "flashlighting"?

Your help is appreciated. Steer me in the right direction and if there are any other good options. I more than likely will be buying from BB

Uses will consist of PS3/Netflix/Blu-ray/DVD's and Satellite (HD). Minor computer monitor use and the average distance will be about 13-14ft. away at most.

Is there any model line from LG that guarantees an IPS panel?

thx

bob

007,

Those are 2 GREAT choices.

I would favor the Sony EX500 over the C630 for video gaming and computer monitor usage. The Samsung C630 has slightly better PQ than the Sony, but the Sony is also Top Notch in the marketplace.

Samsung has better functionality on the USB port than the Sony, but the Sony has decent functionality. Also an Ethernet input which the Sony does not have...although no integrated WiFi nor Internet Apps...neither does the Sony.

Samsung has a backlit remote, which I like better than Sony's non backlit remote.

Samsung has more aesthetically pleasing menu system than the Sony, but the Sony is functional.

Samsung has more advanced tools for tweaking the picture, however the Sony has plenty.

Sony has better Audio Quality.

Sony's side inputs are on the Left, facing the screen. Samsungs on the Right.

Both have excellent video processing and scaling of Standard Definition signals.