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post #211 of 5140
Hi everyone!

My family is looking to buy a tv after owning the same one for over 15 years. The biggest concern i have for them is to find something that is good quality and can last them as long as possible considering it has taken them this long to buy one in the first place.

They have decided on:
46" LCD
less than or around $1000

It doesn't have to be a 120Hz, just a good value and quality with a good picture. A few that I have looked at include:

LG 47LH40 and 47LH30
Samsung LN46C550 LN46C630 and LN46C530

Thanks for the help in advance!
post #212 of 5140
Okay folks. I am now down to two models for my new flat panel TV:

Samsung LN40C630
Sony KDL-40EX500

I might consider the VIZIO M420NV if Costco or Wal-Mart get them in stock ASAP.

So all you Samsung or Sony fans out there, which one should I choose?
post #213 of 5140
1. Budget = $9-1300

2. Seating distance = ~8'

3. Size/placement limitations = 46-47" seems to be the size range my wife is willing to compromise up to! Been looking as Samsung so far.

4. Uses and sources = hooked up to a HTPC with a Blu-ray player & SD tuner cards, SD recorded shows & movies, general web browsing. No gaming/consoles.

5. Room lighting = Adjustable with window shades, we usually close the blinds during the day to watch TV now on a ~27 Sony WEGA tube TV.


I saw a 46" Samsung at Fry's the other day playing Quantum of Solace and it looked like a live video feed, the sales guy said it was a 2009 650 series. Would this be a 'B' version...? I've read a little bit here today and am a bit confused over the panel types and which is supposed to be better.

He also showed me what he said was a 2010 650 model, but it didn't seem quite as good as the 2009 650 set. Are the 2010 models all 'C' versions? They had some Samsung LED models there too but they were on a different aisles so it was difficult to compare them, should I be looking at them too?

I also have a Costco membership, but I'm not opposed to ordering online if shipping is reasonable.
post #214 of 5140
Looking for an LED Samsung to replace my 42" LG

1. Budget : ~$2000
2. Seating distance : Max of 10 ft from TV
3. Size/placement limitations : No limitations
4. Uses and sources : Sports, Xbox 360, Netflix, Dish Network
5. Room lighting : Dark room, 1 window. Ceiling fan.

MY ROOM/LIGHTING/DISTANCE Picture 1 Picture 2 Picture 3

I'm looking into getting a new TV within the next month or so and thought I would get some ideas here on AVSForum. LED's seem like the way to go these days so let's start from there. I prefer Samsung and LG brand, and from what I hear, they're by far the best on the market.

Currently I own the LG 42LH40. It's been a good TV for the year that I've had it now since last March. I got it for $999.99 at Best Buy... here is my setup. Setup 1 .... Setup 2


One last question: I will be selling the 42LH40 to a friend who wants it. What's a reasonable asking price from him? There are no dead pixels or anything, this thing is like brand new. The wear on it is near minimal, as I don't watch more than 2 hours a day on it. I was thinking $650?

Your thoughts are appreciated. I'm not very fluent in this type of technology, but I do know the important stuff.
post #215 of 5140
Hey everyone! So I'll be moving into a new apartment soon and I've finally convinced my wife that since we'll be getting new furniture that we should also get a nice new HDTV for the living room lol. Anyways after doing a little bit of research on my own I've figured out that I need some help. I want to get the best I can get with my limited budget and I hope you guys can help me. Thank you soooo much in advance for any and all help!

1. Budget- $750 (before taxes) Keep in mind a set from Sears or K-mart will get me a 10% discount since my wife works there

2. Seating distance- Roughly 9 feet.

3. Size/placement limitations- I'm thinking 42-46" will be good for us.

4. Uses and sources- HD cable, sports, Blu-Ray, and Xbox 360. So I'm thinking at least 120HZ will be needed.

5. Room lighting- There will be some light but not an overwhelming amount.

Some of the sets I've been considering: LG LH40, Vizio SV420M and VT420M, Toshiba 650U, Insignia Advanced NS-L42X-10A.

I don't know if one of those will be my best option or if something entirely different will. Once again thanks a million!
post #216 of 5140
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Originally Posted by Aznsilvrboy View Post

1. Budget
About $1000

2. Seating distance
The distance between the wall I plan to mount it on and the ledge of my bed is about 4.5 feet, but I'll be sitting on the bed with my back against the other wall, so the expected/maximum viewing distance is around 7 to 8 feet.

3. Size/placement limitations
It will be wall mounted in my small room. Can probably fit up to a 42" - 46" tv.

4. Uses and sources
Primarily gaming (PS3), watch videos/movies off my computer, and streaming Youtube/Yahoo etc directly from the TV (So I need wi-fi connectivity).

5. Room lighting
My room is definitely not very bright, but I'm used to it. My lights emit yellow light. Sometimes I might use the TV in a darker setting (watching videos/movies)

Others: I'm a total noob when it comes to TVs, so I have no idea how many HDMI ports I'll need and how high the refresh rate should be and etc. Also I do not have a home theatre system in my room, so this TV will need to have good sound as well. I also read that LED (edge-lit LED?) TV's have better picture quality than regular LCDs, so I'd like that if possible. Basically I just want everything to best as best as possible within my budget. Thanks in advance.

I've found a liking to 2 TVs: Sony Bravia KDL40NX700 vs Samsung UN40C6500:

http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/ser...n100473n100735

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/t...etail&tab=spec

I think the Samsung will be a bit more expensive, in the same price range. Which one is better?
post #217 of 5140
I was very interested in the Vizio VF551XVT buy my wife can't seem to get over the huge silver bar along the front. So I took her through the local FutureShop and we found a couple of alternatives, both of which seem to get pretty favorable reviews. Any thoughts from the community here as to which might be a better choice? Thanks to a sale they are exactly the same price.

Sony KDL52EX703 (seems to be a FutureShop version of the KDL52EX700)
Samsung UB55B7000

I was originally interested in the 2 sets below, which are about $1000 cheaper than the ones above, but the wife didn't seem to have a problem with the higher price. Anyone recommend these over the ones above?

Samsung LN52B610
LG 55LH40

We watch a lot of HDTV off our PVR and I game quite a bit with my Xbox 360, if that matters. Many thanks!
post #218 of 5140
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Originally Posted by rcoreyd View Post

1. Budget- $750 (before taxes) Keep in mind a set from Sears or K-mart will get me a 10% discount since my wife works there

2. Seating distance- Roughly 9 feet.

Sine Sears sells Sony LCD panels, I'd recommend the KDL-40EX500 if your wife can get a discount on that panel. I set it up last night and I really like it for its nice balance of color (the colors don't "pop out at you" to excess like you get with Samsung LCD panels).
post #219 of 5140
Need your help with an LCD recommendation

1. Budget

$1,500 - $2,000 though I'd pay less if you have a great idea under this price point.

2. Seating distance

11 feet - I guess this means I need at least a 50inch and likely would do better with 55 right?

3. Size/placement limitations

mounted above the fireplace

4. Uses and sources

Primarily watching cable TV - mostly HD sources and Blue Ray movies at night. For sound I'll be putting in a definitive technology Mythos SSA50 soundbar sothat isn't an issue.

5. Room lighting

Big Window off the family room to the backyard


I'm not super brand loyal but I've got a smaller Samsung in my office and a Sony upstairs in the kids play room.
post #220 of 5140
Need a recommendation based on the following. I can handle either LCD, LED, or plasma. No more DLP's as I have a 61" JVC currently.

1. Budget
I am looking to spend no more than $2,250.

2. Seating distance
I currently sit about 12 feet from the TV

3. Size/placement limitations
Nothing bigger than 65 inches as that would make the room ackward

4. Uses and sources
Everyday TV but mainly Sports, Primetime TV, and PS3

5. Room lighting
Lighting in the room is bright most of day but have shades to block out.


I appreciate any suggestions as I can't decide. I have looked at 58 inch Samsung Plasma, the new Sony's look nice, etc...

thanks

Shanywing
post #221 of 5140
Looking at sub 800.00 models in the 40 to 46 inch range . Which brand and model seems to be best overall in PQ with deep blacks, great shadow detail, least artifacts and motion issues, most natural look. Will be used in a typical living room with somewhat uncontrolled but not bad lighting in the day and of course a dim controlled area at night. Movies, TV, DVD (maybe blu ray later on) no gaming.

Just asking so I can check them out in the store for a possible in home demo. Im looking at a plasma as well, the samsung c450 in 42" but I wanted to know what LCD I could look at to compare. Im not partial to the tech. but wanted to be able to compare just the same.
post #222 of 5140
Hello all, looking for a nice 32" 1080p TV for family room. TV will be used for a little bit of everything, except as a computer monitor. Multiple people may be viewing the TV at any one time from multiple viewing angles, so that is a real priority.

Budget- ~$650

Seating distance- Anywhere from 3.5' to 9'; multiple viewing angles

Size/placement limitation- 32"

Uses and sources- HD programming, SD programming, Blu-rays, DVDs, a bit of XBox 360 and Wii gaming on the side. Must have at least 3 HDMI ports, must be 1080p.

Room lighting- Natural light always in room during daylight hours; two lamps on either side of TV.

I already have a few sets in mind; don't really know anything about them.

Panasonic TC-L32S1
Samsung LN32B550
LG 32LH40
Vizio SV320XVT

Any recommendations on those listed above, or other models?

Thanks!
post #223 of 5140
still debating on the 46c630 and the 46ex500. was watching them side by side yesterday for about 20 minutes at the local video only. they had the viera feed demo going through, think it's 1080i? seemed like the sony was a little crisper (slightly), and darker on the shadow detail. whereas the 46c630 was brighter, and almost had a white sheen to the picture.

one scene had a car wheel well, the sony i could just see a black wheel well with minimal details, but crisp. the samsung i could see inside the wheel well with some detail, but it was more blur'd. kept on feeling like i would miss things with the sony due to it's harsh shadow detail, but then realized it was most likely a store setting.

im liking the samsung styling, they both have swivel bezel's this year...the brushed metal bottom piece on the ex500 kinda throws me off, and im aware of the black bezel (costco ex501) is sold out, and their prices are not negotiable. the back of the stand on the sony is curved, while the samsung is a rectangle (i like straight edges).

after watching some bolt and tinker bell, the sony still pops more. sometimes there was no difference, but then during really detailed scenes the sony slightly took the edge. either way i think it will come down to styling.

any suggestions, they are so close? i can get the ex500 for 35$ cheaper ha! i know it's not much of a difference, but i can't decide! i think it will come down to cosmetic rather than anything else. sales rep said the 46ex500 is selling more than the 46c630 samsung this year.
post #224 of 5140
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Originally Posted by advans13 View Post

still debating on the 46c630 and the 46ex500. was watching them side by side yesterday for about 20 minutes at the local video only. they had the viera feed demo going through, think it's 1080i? seemed like the sony was a little crisper (slightly), and darker on the shadow detail. whereas the 46c630 was brighter, and almost had a white sheen to the picture.

one scene had a car wheel well, the sony i could just see a black wheel well with minimal details, but crisp. the samsung i could see inside the wheel well with some detail, but it was more blur'd. kept on feeling like i would miss things with the sony due to it's harsh shadow detail, but then realized it was most likely a store setting.

im liking the samsung styling, they both have swivel bezel's this year...the brushed metal bottom piece on the ex500 kinda throws me off, and im aware of the black bezel (costco ex501) is sold out, and their prices are not negotiable. the back of the stand on the sony is curved, while the samsung is a rectangle (i like straight edges).

after watching some bolt and tinker bell, the sony still pops more. sometimes there was no difference, but then during really detailed scenes the sony slightly took the edge. either way i think it will come down to styling.

any suggestions, they are so close? i can get the ex500 for 35$ cheaper ha! i know it's not much of a difference, but i can't decide! i think it will come down to cosmetic rather than anything else. sales rep said the 46ex500 is selling more than the 46c630 samsung this year.

I'd go with the Samsung, just because it has a brighter screen (IMO), but for only a $35 difference, you can't go wrong with either one.
post #225 of 5140
Great thread. It is a big help for those beginners that want to have a quality T.V but also an affordable one. If you are choosing your television you must also include the design of your house and will it match the surroundings of your house.
post #226 of 5140
Ok so my in laws bought a brand new CRT like 36"?? tv when they first moved down here...10 years ago. My father in laws 50th is coming up and I am trying to help the mother find a tv. She doesn't know anything about pricing or technology or whatever and is totally relying on me here. My current plan is to talk to her about why she needs LCD or LEDLCD (well lit room generally speaking) but what I don't really know is the value difference in LED or no LED. Keep in mind these people haven't been looking at HD at all so anything is going to blow their minds, and it is a room with a big window to the backyard so its well lit during the day and usually in the evenings with normal lighting. But I also want to get her the best bang for the buck and from what I saw at bestbuy today the LEDs are noticeably sexier than the LCDs. Is this in my head? are they really going to be worth the extra cost in the given situation?

and now...


1. Budget: ??? she is clueless lets say 750-2k as i cant see her spending that much but i want her to understand the spectrum
2. Seating distance: approximately 15'
3. Size/placement limitations: none really
4. Uses and sources: cable tv and movies
5. Room lighting: well lit by sun during day, lamps in evening
post #227 of 5140
I'm struggling to decide between two 60" screens, could really use some help.

Im looking at the Sharp 60 77UN or the Sony 60 EX500. Right now my local BJ's has the Sharp on clearance for about $400 less than the Sony. To me they look pretty similiar but I know Sharp has had some banding issues recently. Any suggestions?
post #228 of 5140
Need recommendation based on the folowing. Leaning towards LCD/LED for weight and heat issues. Would consider a plasma, but I had some issues with image retention on a previous Sammy plasma.

1. Budget: 1.5k-2k - I'd be willing to go higher with good reason.
2. Seating distance: 6'-8'
3. Size/placement limitations: 52"-55"
4. Uses and sources: Primarily FPS gaming (360 and PS3) and Bluray/SD Movies (PS3).
5. Room lighting: Evening light but window faces east. Most time spent using will be evening/night with dim lighting or lights off.
post #229 of 5140
Okay, I'm looking to narrow down between two choices; I don't totally understand the difference between these two TV's.

Samsung UN32C4000 32 Inch 720p 60 Hz LED
Samsung LN32C450 32 Inch 720p 60 Hz LCD

I moving (for about a year or two) into an apartment with a really small living room area; I'm going to be about 6 feet away from the TV when viewing. Eventually I'll be in a bigger space and will get a bigger TV, and use this one as a secondary TV.

I will be using the TV with a sound bar (again, small space; I'll upgrade to surround sound in a year or two when I move), a PS3, an Xbox 360, a Wii, and a TiVo with HD capability. A cable box will be needed too.

Will there be any problem running all of these systems on one of these TV's (especially regarding the inputs)?

Any arguments against getting this type or size of TV for my space/use?

And why is the first TV about $100 more than the second one?

Thanks everybody.
post #230 of 5140
Quote:
Originally Posted by advans13 View Post

still debating on the 46c630 and the 46ex500. was watching them side by side yesterday for about 20 minutes at the local video only. they had the viera feed demo going through, think it's 1080i? seemed like the sony was a little crisper (slightly), and darker on the shadow detail. whereas the 46c630 was brighter, and almost had a white sheen to the picture.

one scene had a car wheel well, the sony i could just see a black wheel well with minimal details, but crisp. the samsung i could see inside the wheel well with some detail, but it was more blur'd. kept on feeling like i would miss things with the sony due to it's harsh shadow detail, but then realized it was most likely a store setting.

im liking the samsung styling, they both have swivel bezel's this year...the brushed metal bottom piece on the ex500 kinda throws me off, and im aware of the black bezel (costco ex501) is sold out, and their prices are not negotiable. the back of the stand on the sony is curved, while the samsung is a rectangle (i like straight edges).

after watching some bolt and tinker bell, the sony still pops more. sometimes there was no difference, but then during really detailed scenes the sony slightly took the edge. either way i think it will come down to styling.

any suggestions, they are so close? i can get the ex500 for 35$ cheaper ha! i know it's not much of a difference, but i can't decide! i think it will come down to cosmetic rather than anything else. sales rep said the 46ex500 is selling more than the 46c630 samsung this year.

Like you, I am struggling to determine which will be the better bang for my buck between these 46 inchers...the Sony EX500 or the Sammy C630. I watch SD and HD TV, as well as some gaming and BluRays on the PS3. You can't tell anything with store lighting and picture settings. If you have purchased either of these since your last post, please give me an update as to which you chose and if you are happy with your decision.

Thanks
John
post #231 of 5140
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustJohn View Post

Like you, I am struggling to determine which will be the better bang for my buck between these 46 inchers...the Sony EX500 or the Sammy C630. I watch SD and HD TV, as well as some gaming and BluRays on the PS3. You can't tell anything with store lighting and picture settings. If you have purchased either of these since your last post, please give me an update as to which you chose and if you are happy with your decision.

I'll take the KDL-46EX500. Based on actually seeing one and now owning a new KDL-40EX500, the colors on the Sony don't stand out so garishly like you do with Samsung sets, and best of all the optical audio output on the EX500 series will pass the full surround sound signal to an external stereo receiver for decoding.
post #232 of 5140
Alright, I'm looking for a holdover set to replace a 50 inch 720p Samsung plasma that has way too many problems with it that I pretty much have to return it. (severe IR, a Loud buzz, and black spacers between each horizontal row of pixels that I can see up to 14 feet away) The plasma was also a holdover set as well as I was waiting for the 60inch and up sets to hit the market and stabalize (price settles and any bugs get revealed) and I wanted a set to hold me over until then after all the crap sets that I have been through. (I got lucky with the Panasonic plasma black rising and got a refund mere days before they went into stonewall mode)

Currently I am looking at the Samsung 40b630 and the Sony 40ex500 but I haven't really looked into small LCDs in years so I am really out of the loop on them.

1. Budget - $800 max

2. Seating distance - adjustable from 6 feet to 12 feet

3. Size/placement limitations - none

4. Uses and sources - Mainly PS3 and blu-ray

5. Room lighting - open windows with plenty of sun in the day, a single 60w d6500 bulb at night.
post #233 of 5140
Quote:
Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

Alright, I'm looking for a holdover set to replace a 50 inch 720p Samsung plasma that has way too many problems with it that I pretty much have to return it. (severe IR, a Loud buzz, and black spacers between each horizontal row of pixels that I can see up to 14 feet away) The plasma was also a holdover set as well as I was waiting for the 60inch and up sets to hit the market and stabalize (price settles and any bugs get revealed) and I wanted a set to hold me over until then after all the crap sets that I have been through. (I got lucky with the Panasonic plasma black rising and got a refund mere days before they went into stonewall mode)

Currently I am looking at the Samsung 40b630 and the Sony 40ex500 but I haven't really looked into small LCDs in years so I am really out of the loop on them.

1. Budget - $800 max

2. Seating distance - adjustable from 6 feet to 12 feet

3. Size/placement limitations - none

4. Uses and sources - Mainly PS3 and blu-ray

5. Room lighting - open windows with plenty of sun in the day, a single 60w d6500 bulb at night.

you want better PQ than sony and more features per dollar, look at vizio...
post #234 of 5140
Please help I cannot find a TV to buy. Its driving me nutty.

I want

HDTV LCD or LED
Qwerty Remote Keyboard
USB port for media playback
internet apps with youtube

the only one that has all this is the samsung c9000 but i dont want to spend that kind of money. is there any other that i am missing thats cheaper?

thanks!
post #235 of 5140
1. Budget = Under $1,000, but preferably under $750

2. Seating distance = 7' to 8'

3. Size/placement limitations = 40"

4. Uses and sources = Mostly be used to play PS3, Mainly MLB '10: The Show (Best Baseball Game Ever!) and watch blu-ray movies using the PS3. Also will be used to watch Directv HD, but rarely.

5. Room lighting = Bright room, lots of windows, have shades for them and curtains for sliding door, but still can be bright with them shut. At night its very Dark, but will be used a lot during the day.

There are so many options and i don't know which is best for picture quality and bang for my buck. I've looked at the 40EX400 and 40EX500 by Sony. I like the $600 range of the EX400 but its at 60hz. Is 120hz really worth the extra $150? Thats about all the diff. is. Also, Samsung has a 2 new models to compete with Sony, the LN40C630 and LN40C530. Same prices but which is better? Please help!!!
post #236 of 5140
1. Budget = Under $1500

2. Seating distance = 5-6'

3. Size/placement limitations = 32"-40" (I have a 32, would love a 37)

4. Uses and sources = Gaming mostly, so lag input is a concern. Then blu-ray viewing, then TV (some HD, mostly SD). The PQ on cable is not my concern.

5. Room lighting = Bright room, lots of windows, have shades, but prefer not to watch in the dark.

I want to bump up just past a 32, and really 40" is probably pushing it at my viewing distance, so I think 37" might be my limit. But I want low input lag and really good black levels. I don't mind paying for quality, and I was wondering if there are any local dimming backlit or edge lit LED TV's in the 37" range that I should be on the lookout for.
post #237 of 5140
Hey, need a new tv heres what I got
Buget = 600-800 bones

seat distance= approx 10 ft

size= 37-42in range

uses= 1 gaming 2 movies 3 pc

lighting= medium light to dark

Just looking for some ideas on quality LCDs at that price thanks.
post #238 of 5140
Hi All,

So I'm actually stuck between a plasma or LCD. The LED TVs are just too pricey for me.
I'm hoping that someone can point me in the correct direction

1. Budget I'd like to spend no more than $1500
2. Seating distance Approximately 6'
3. Size/placement limitations 46"-50" 1080p
4. Uses and sources Movies from PS3 and PC. Gaming on PS3
5. Room lighting Not sure yet, moving into new apartment in three months

My issue right now is that no one technology seems to be able to do it all. People say that for movies and sports, plasma is the best. Contrast and black levels are superior. However, some say that plasmas are not that great for gaming. There are just so many pros and cons of both that it's absolutely confusing to even pick out a technology! Then when you do pick a technology, you realize that there's 4 different series with multiple versions within each series. Where and how am I supposed to start??

All I want to do is just play games on a PS3, watch TV and movies, and watch shows/anime from my PC.

Some considerations I've been reading reviews on...

Plasma
Panasonic TC-P50G10
Samsung PN50B850

LCD
Samsung's LN46XXXXX series. Not sure why there are so many of them. Really seems to be Dynamic Contrast Ratio and little widgets marketing jumbo between each series?
Samsung UN46B7000 - Seems to be some flaws that some say are deal breakers.
Not sure what other brands produce good sets. I have to admit, Samsung's aesthetic designs are making this a biased decision. What else is out there?
Also, why is Samsung's website not showing their 8 and 9 series LCD tv?
post #239 of 5140
bencho,

If you're talking six feet viewing distance I'd recommend staying with a 40 to 42 inch flat panel. In that case, I'd take the Sony KDL-40EX500 over the Samsung LN40C630 (which I nearly bought) for two reasons:

1) Nicer picture quality on the KDL-40EX500--the colors on the LN40C630 "pop out" too vividly even with a lot of control fiddling.

2) If you plug a Blu-ray player, upconverting DVD player, DVR or set top box with HDMI interconnections on the KDL-EX500, the optical audio out will pass through the surround sound signals to an external receiver.
post #240 of 5140
Hi!

A week ago I bought a Sharp LC40E77UN LCD TV and this was the worst decision I took in my life. LCD will NEVER be as fast as Plasma even with 240 Hz motion flow. And what about the black level? No LCD can beat a Plasma. I did calibrate my TV and it is not as sharp as a Plasma. I can still see motion blur while watching cable TV. With blue-ray no issue but still black are not as sharp as a Plasma TV.

Now about the screen burn on a Plasma, Plasma use phosphor like CRT TV and I was not able to burn any CRT TV since I own a TV and I am 42 years old. So tell me what is the real advantage of buying LCD? No screen reflect? Common I saw screen reflect on LCD TV too, not as much as a Plasma but still there is reflect.

What about the fact that people are saying that plasma will loose in dark level after a few years of use, well you know 60,000 hours for a TV equal 30 years of use average and nobody will keep a TV that long so.... I would say that you would be able to use a Plasma for 15 years before seeing any changes in black level.

Now unless you have a real important information that would prevent me to go to Plasma, I will sell my new LCD TV even if I will loose money. I can not stand it anymore and I own it only since a week.

Thank you!
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