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post #2461 of 4421
2/21/11 at 3:19pm
Hi everyone. I've been lurking about for a couple months, finally decided to join.

My budget is $2,000
46-52 desired
Extensive Xbox 360 gaming, ESPN/CNBC watching. Will get PS3 for Blu-rays.
Ambient light is pretty high during the day. My current HP-LC3760N (matte, 60 Hz, 720p) is watchable on a sunny day if I'm watching a bright image (basketball court), but I know to wait until dusk to watch a program with darker images.

I haven't seen one LED-lit model in my price range that performs well for gamers in bright rooms. The 2 plasmas I like, Samsung C8000 & Panasonic VT25, still make me wonder about burn-in and the effectiveness of the anti-glare glass panels vs. my current matte panel. The LG LD550 (CCFL LCD) is on the list as well, and that looks like the safest move to make. I will keep reading through the thread, but I would love some advice. I don't really need a new TV, I just want a bigger one. However, I don't want it to perform worse than my current TV in any category.

Seems like your options are limited unless you watch only Blu-rays in a pitch-black cave. Waddup wit that?
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post #2462 of 4421
2/21/11 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by jcgator View Post

My budget is $2,000
46-52” desired

Welcome! You should decide what size you want. You have a great selection in a 46", but 52" rules out some excellent 55" TV's for under $1500. Most LCD's are pretty bright, so I am surprised you couldn't find an LED. In a CCFL, the Samsung C610/630 can go really bright, and perform great in a cave as well.
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post #2463 of 4421
2/21/11 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by Big Foot View Post

Welcome! You should decide what size you want. You have a great selection in a 46", but 52" rules out some excellent 55" TV's for under $1500. Most LCD's are pretty bright, so I am surprised you couldn't find an LED. In a CCFL, the Samsung C610/630 can go really bright, and perform great in a cave as well.

Thanks Big Foot! The forum is a little intimidating, but I wish I joined years ago.

46" is the optimal size for my room, but I'm willing to move my couch back a few feet to accommodate a 52". Getting some good recommendations for something in that range is preferred, but I see how it may be a bit too broad. It'd be terrific to get a few examples from that great selection of 46" TVs. Just trying to make sure I haven't missed anything in the process of my extensive search.

In terms of the ambient light, I am most concerned about glare, not necessarily the maximum brightness of the set. I was under the impression that panel brightness could mitigate some glare-related effects, but the actual composition of the panel (glass vs. matte, for example) was the key to determining how bad glare would be in a bright room. Am I looking at this the right way?

Thanks again
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post #2464 of 4421
2/21/11 at 7:36pm
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Originally Posted by jcgator View Post

Hi everyone. I've been lurking about for a couple months, finally decided to join.

The LG LD550 (CCFL LCD) is on the list as well, and that looks like the safest move to make. I will keep reading through the thread, but I would love some advice. I don't really need a new TV, I just want a bigger one. However, I don't want it to perform worse than my current TV in any category.

I have the LG 47LD520. Not exactly the same model you're considering but comparable is a lot of ways. It has the S-IPS panel (which is supposed to be really good for gamers), matte screen, and looks terrific. We have the LG on a media console and sit about 10 feet away so the size is just right for us. As far as ambient light goes, at night I keep the table lamps off unless someone want to read and have an ambient light setup behind the tv which makes a BIG difference for night time viewing (15W CFL bulb, 5500K temp). Day time viewing is fine as well because we can just turn on the energy saving feature which works fine.
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post #2465 of 4421
2/21/11 at 7:42pm
Just got a 55 in UNC6500. Everything is good, except the response time. Even in game mode, it's not as good as my 37 in Viewsonic. My viewsonic is probably one of the most responsive TVs I've ever used. Even though the picture is not elite I'd rather game on that. This Samsung's gaming performance is unacceptable for a TV at $1,500 and I will be returning. What would you guys recommend for a 55 in LED that is more responsive than this C6500. I'm willing to spend up to $2,000.
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post #2466 of 4421
2/22/11 at 9:24am
I've been researching lots of 46" and 47" TV options to replace my big, beautiful Pioneer Elite PRO-730HD in my living room, and it's come down to 2 main options, the Samsung LN46C630 and the LG 47LD520. I was heavily leaning towards the Samsung until I walked into my local Fry's yesterday. They currently have the LG 47LD520 on sale for 599 (until Thursday). The cheapest I had previously seen it was 740 online, and I think Fry's regular price on it is 799. At 599, it's even cheaper than the 42" version at Fry's. So it looks like a no-brainer to me now.

If you have a local Fry's store near you, go check out the LG 47LD520. At 599, it really can't be beat.
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post #2467 of 4421
2/22/11 at 9:39am
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Originally Posted by csamos View Post

If you have a local Fry's store near you, go check out the LG 47LD520. At 599, it really can't be beat.
I've had the 47LD520 since early January and am very satisfied with it.
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post #2468 of 4421
2/22/11 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post
I've had the 47LD520 since early January and am very satisfied with it.
One thing I really like about it is the extensive calibration controls available in the user menu, including 10 point white balance controls and a full color management system. I can't wait to calibrate mine once I have it up on the wall.
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post #2469 of 4421
2/22/11 at 12:20pm
Budget: $3500
Size desired: 55" - 65"

I watch quite a bit of SD television and some HD. Would like something that displays SD pretty well. I loved my SXRD but it broke for good this time. Any advice is appreciated.
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post #2470 of 4421
2/22/11 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by csamos View Post

One thing I really like about it is the extensive calibration controls available in the user menu, including 10 point white balance controls and a full color management system. I can't wait to calibrate mine once I have it up on the wall.

Once your setup, come on over to the LG xx550,xx520,xx650 group. Lots of calibration settings and solid help.
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post #2471 of 4421
2/22/11 at 2:57pm
Size - 42 or 46" LCD
Distance Away - ~8-10 FT
Price - Hoping to spend under $8 or 900

I currently have a 32" Samsung 720P and would like to upgrade it since I've had it for approximately 3 yrs now. I have been eying up the LGs (42LD450 or 550), but just can't seem to pull the trigger. I was all set on the 450 model until I went to get it, and the store no longer had any. Now that I've had more time to think about it, I'm kind of torn between the 60Hz and 120Hz, and if it's really worth spending the extra money. My main concern is with blu-ray, and if there is a noticeable difference when watching it.

I'm also open to other manufacturers. Those two models seemed to be the most reasonably priced for what you get as far as PQ and user settings (as long as you get the right panel).

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks!
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post #2472 of 4421
2/22/11 at 4:00pm
Hi,

Been away for a long time. This site was so helpful in searching for a large plasma several years ago that I would never buy anything before posting here.

I'm replacing an old TV in our bedroom with a new LCD. It's going in a cabinet so I'm restricted to a 32". I have no experience with LCD or a 32" screen.

Budget- $500

Viewing distance 6-10ft.

Uses- Pretty much sports (Football, Golf, etc). PQ is the most
important quality to me. My kids will use it from time to time for DVD's and TV, but no gaming. PC capability isn't needed.

Room Lighting varies, but generally not too bright. (Oregon weather does that).

TIA,

Craig
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post #2473 of 4421
2/22/11 at 7:16pm
1. Budget - Under $2500
2. Seating distance - 8 to 10 ft.
3. Size/placement limitations - Thinking 50"
4. Uses and sources - Mostly HDTV, occasional BR, very occasional gaming (PS3)
5. Room lighting - Not too bright. Easily darkened.

The only "issue" is occasional extreme side viewing. The LR is wide and narrow, with a couch directly opposite the TV position, and a couch perpendicular to the left of the TV. I understand plasma will give me better off axis viewing possibilities, but I'd prefer to go LCD to mitigate my eco-footprint a bit. In browsing BB, it seems to me that LCD off axis viewing is much improved since the olden days. Definitely interested in "net apps" for Netflix etc.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance,
-Stephen
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post #2474 of 4421
2/22/11 at 8:33pm
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Originally Posted by Cahn2126 View Post

Just got a 55 in UNC6500. Everything is good, except the response time. Even in game mode, it's not as good as my 37 in Viewsonic. My viewsonic is probably one of the most responsive TVs I've ever used. Even though the picture is not elite I'd rather game on that. This Samsung's gaming performance is unacceptable for a TV at $1,500 and I will be returning. What would you guys recommend for a 55 in LED that is more responsive than this C6500. I'm willing to spend up to $2,000.

IF a 52 will do I would suggest the SHARP 920un. That is going to be my next purchase. Supposedly it is the cream of the crop as far as response time goes unless you want the hassles of plasma. I seen a 810 tonight and it was awesome. That would make the 920 super awesome.
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post #2475 of 4421
2/22/11 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by admixer View Post

1. Budget - Under $2500
2. Seating distance - 8 to 10 ft.
3. Size/placement limitations - Thinking 50"
4. Uses and sources - Mostly HDTV, occasional BR, very occasional gaming (PS3)
5. Room lighting - Not too bright. Easily darkened.

The only "issue" is occasional extreme side viewing. The LR is wide and narrow, with a couch directly opposite the TV position, and a couch perpendicular to the left of the TV. I understand plasma will give me better off axis viewing possibilities, but I'd prefer to go LCD to mitigate my eco-footprint a bit. In browsing BB, it seems to me that LCD off axis viewing is much improved since the olden days. Definitely interested in "net apps" for Netflix etc.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance,
-Stephen

LG 47LD520. S-IPS panel (if you know what to look for), very good off-axis viewing, excellent PQ, etc. The only drawback, for you, is that this model (the same one I have) is not a "smart set" (no inet capability), but for me , I think it's better to get a Blu-ray player that has net apps. Much more flexibility, options, and for the price, you still save money as opposed to getting an integrated set. And, as formats, chipsets, etc. change, you can always replace the player to keep current.
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post #2476 of 4421
2/22/11 at 9:22pm
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Originally Posted by the skeptik View Post

IF a 52 will do I would suggest the SHARP 920un. That is going to be my next purchase. Supposedly it is the cream of the crop as far as response time goes unless you want the hassles of plasma. I seen a 810 tonight and it was awesome. That would make the 920 super awesome.

You just read my mind as I was going to ask about this set as well.
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post #2477 of 4421
2/22/11 at 9:22pm
A 52 in a fine. I'm going tomorrow to make the exchange. I just hope they have some of hte 920s left
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post #2478 of 4421
2/22/11 at 11:57pm
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Originally Posted by Calrak View Post

I went with the 554 from costco. I have not messed with settings yet, but I like the picture. I would note that the sound seems to change volume on me without touching the remote. Further, it has a warm plastic smell - does that go away after use? Lastly, occationally, there seems to be broken white lines on the top of the picture or right side - not all the time mind you, but from time to time.

I'm not sure if this is the right tread or not, but thought I would share my experience thus far.

Calrak, you should probably advance to the Official 554 owners thread. Youll get better feedback there.

Sometimes white lines at the very top are closed captioning data. Though Ive never heard of them on the side. You can move the Vertical positioning up a couple of pixels to get rid of that. However Im not convinced that is what you are describing.

Good Luck!
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post #2479 of 4421
2/22/11 at 11:58pm
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Originally Posted by Guinness1983 View Post

Anyone recommend a good 26" set? I was initially looking at the lg 32le5300 but i'm not sure about the PQ on it. Mostly for ps3/xbox and watching avi. and mkv. files.

Also, do 26's support that 24 movie playback thing for bluray's?

That LG is nice, if you get the IPS panel, but that size seems to be mostly not IPS panels now.

I recommend Samsung sets smaller than 32" or Vizios.
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post #2480 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:01am
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Originally Posted by Fazerin View Post

Hello everybody. I have been doing some research on a new HDTV set and yesterday I was at Nebraska Furniture Mart and purchased a Sharp Aquos LC-60LE810UN 60" Edge LED for $1879. I liked how it look compared to the other HDTV's it was next too. They are not delivering it until Tuesday so I can always cancel or push back the delivery date. Is there a better HDTV that you get instead?

1. Budget
Up to $2000 +/- couple hundreds
2. Seating distance
10 ft
3. Size/placement limitations
I'm looking for 60" if have to +/- couple of inches
4. Uses and sources
HDTV on Uverse
Xbox 360 Kinect,
Blue Ray (even those I dont have one yet but I'm sure I will one after this purchase)
5. Room lighting
Tv will be in a basement with a window that is 3'x3' behind it.

Thank You

I really dont recommend those Quattron sets...as getting the color right can be difficult.
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post #2481 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:03am
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Originally Posted by jtrang View Post

Hey everybody, I'm planning to buy my 1st HDTV soon. I have narrowed it down to LN55C650 and LN46C750 and would appreciate it if someone can offer their opinions on what to choose from. I'm planning to use the TV for watching sports, gaming, and shows and it will be placed in a bedroom. Watching distance will be about 10-15 ft away from screen.

I can get the LN55C650 for $1196.00 or the LN46C750 for $1056.01. Which would be the best to get for the best picture quality and pricing? I'm tempted to get the LN46C750 because it's a newer model, it has 3D ready, and it has a 240HZ. The LN55C650 has everything the LN46C750 has except no 3D ready, lower contrast black ratio, the screen is 55" and it has a 120HZ for only $140 more.

Which to get? Thanks!

Id go for the larger size, without question. The 650 has great PQ, blacks, etc....in other words, its got it where it counts. Plus Samsung Internet Apps
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post #2482 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:04am
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Originally Posted by waruma View Post

Hello!

Looking to buy in a few weeks.
Budget $2000
size 55"
LCD/and or LED
240hz
distance about 12 feet.
Room light not an issue


Uses: I'll mainly be gaming on XBOX, PS3, Wii and watching movies/tv content directly from my computer
(I'm not a FP shooter person, but love rhythm games so a TV without lag is an very important)
I was about to pull the trigger on the Sammy UN55C8000 but then got spooked with all the lag input warnings.


Any suggestions for a top end 55 inch gaming TV?
Heard the LG - 55LE8500 or Sony KDL55NX810 might be an alternative. Open to any and all suggestions.

Thanks in advance EV!

W

You heard right.

Sorry for the slow response.
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post #2483 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:08am
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Originally Posted by hardware_failure View Post

Budget
$1000
Seating distance
Varied
Size/placement limitations
~42 inch, wall mounted
Uses
BUSINESS / PUBLIC VIEWING for a drs office
promotional videos
loops of powerpoint type stuff
Sometimes news TV stations
Sources
Mounted or hidden ITX PC, cable box
Room lighting
Lots of background light. Typical fluorescent lighted office.

Other needs
Thin bezel required. Thin profile desired but not a deal breaker. Screen burn is a concern. Durability is also a concern but dont have the budget for $5000+ public tvs with thick scratch resistance glass etc.

Thanks!

You probably want good off angle viewing and a matte (or semi matte is all that is available).

The Vizios are good budget sets and use the LG S-IPS panels which are known to have good viewing angles and great color reproduction. They are also semi matte.

Recommendations

LG 42LD450
Vizio E420VL

You should also look into plasma. Its glass front might be more kid proof.
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post #2484 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:10am
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Originally Posted by Ovreagr View Post

Ok, one more try taking the budget out of the equation and greater size range!

Budget: $$$
Seating distance: ~10 ft.
Size/placement limitations: ~42"-47"
Uses and sources: HD cable TV and PS3
Room lighting: Will be in a bright room w/ windows facing TV

Would like low input lag for gaming
Need good viewing angles
LED/LCD only if it is full array w/ local dimming

Thanks again EV!


The Vizio XVT 3 series in 42" and 47" are pretty good.
Sony EX500 would do well too.
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post #2485 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:16am
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Originally Posted by miketyson View Post

Budget
- $1,000 +/- a few hundred if it's absolutely worth it

Seating Distance
- 8-12 feet (different seats in living room)

Size/placement limitations
- Not looking to wall-mount any time soon whatsoever.
- You tell me what size I should go for based on my budget and seating distance (I'm guessing between 40-50"?)

Uses and sources:
- 90% watching movies (current blu-ray player is Samsung BD-C5500)
- 10% watching tv (comcast cable. primarily hockey, food network, random other stuff)
- My DVD collection is all standard-def DVD's. I plan on sloooooowly upgrading my collection to blu-ray, so I need something that will make both blu-ray and standard def. DVD's look good.

Lighting
- Room isn't too bright. It's going to sit in front of two windows that face east. Therefore, sun will pour in behind it all morning, but we always keep those blinds closed. Once sun is on other side of house, it barely comes in this room. At night, room is usually lit by one small 60w lamp when watching TV. Would prefer matte finish.


Basically I'm looking for something that's great for watching movies (good blur reduction, good contrast ratio and deep blacks) and will also look good when I want to watch some hockey or whatever might be on TV. Now I've heard a bit about 120hz HDTV's and how they make movies look very polished and TV-like, so most people take it off 120hz when movie-watching. I've also heard the 120hz works wonders when watching sports (especially hockey). So if this is the case, I'd like a set that allows me to switch from 120hz to a lower number and back again. Some people attribute it to certain companies' attempts at smoothing or anti-juddering or whatever the jargon or terms are. Basically, I want my movies to look like they should, and my TV to look like it should.

I'd prefer 1080 so hopefully my specifications yield some 1080 options. Energy efficient is nice. And as always, something that will last and be reliable. And hey. I know there's no price talk or site linking allowed, but if the TV has financing options available somewhere, or it's about to become cheaper because of new models about to be released, that would absolutely help. So just give me a nudge to let me know and I'll go out and scavenge.

Thanks much.

You should look into 47" to 55" sets with 120Hz and semi matte screens (they dont make any true matte screens anymore.)

Vizio XVT 3 series available at Costco. 47 and 55
Sony EX500 46 and 55
LG LD520 47 and 55
Vizio E470VL and E550VL
Sanyo DP52440 52

Overall I say get the larger set, you will enjoy it more. 47" theoretically will be better for your DVDs, however I blow them up to 92" on a 854x480 projector and they look good, mostly. Sometimes the source DVD masters suffer from Edge Enhancement that degrades the picture, because they were mastered with 25" CRTs in mind, however there isnt much that can be down about that. The occassional objectionable DVD quality is preferred to having a smaller picture for you BluRays and HD television and whatnot.
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post #2486 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:25am
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Originally Posted by cadmium View Post

Sorry for posting this in the main forum

I'm getting close to doing a complete upgrade on my existing home theater setup, new TV, receiver. (I'm currently rocking a pre-hdmi 1080i RPTV with major overscan issues).

I have an idea of what I want but I need some suggestions to help guide me through the many options.

My current wish list:

TV
  • Currently Leaning towards LCD
  • +/-55" Screen Size, 1080p
  • Wall Mountable
  • 240hz (assuming LCD)
  • Local Dimming (assuming LCD)
  • 1:1 Pixel Ratio for HD content /be able to turn overscan off
  • 3D Support (nice to have, but not a deal breaker)
  • Network and App support (netflix, vudu, etc. Nice to have, but not a deal breaker)
  • Discreet code support
  • Excellent picture quality is desirable

I'm looking to spend probably no more than $2k, with a total HT budget of around $4k.

My current devices & Media:
Tivo - HD TV, Downloaded Media
Xbox 360 - HD Games, Standard DVDs
Wii - Standard-def games
PS3 - HD Games, BluRay Media

I'd love to get brand and model recommendations, as well as any general advice on what I should look for. I'll probably be pulling the trigger on this around spring time, if that matters.

Unfortunately for you most local dimming sets are Edge Lit LED, instead of Full Array.

There are new models coming out that Im not familiar with, and you should probably research those new models.

You should definitely give the Vizio XVT3D604SV a looksee. Its out at Sams.

The Vizio 55" in both the 3 and the 4 series are worth a look.

You have a very specific list of goodies that you want and it should be easy to whittle things down. But those Vizios are bargains...with excellent PQ.
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post #2487 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:28am
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Originally Posted by Dimention View Post

Looking for LCD LED or Plasma to the sunlit room. Busted 55LE8500 LG and LG 60PK950 due to the mirror. Eliminated the Sony KDL-52NX800 because it is a mirror in it.

Can anyone suggest two models at a similar price LCD and Plasma 55'-60 '?

I would like to make this the version of the 2D and the budget is similar to the above.

The light from 08:00AM to 20:00PM bursts through a window on the left side.

Sorry for my english

What?

That LE8500 is expensive. I wouldnt venture to recommend anything to put in your room that explodes expensive LCDs. Buy an air conditioner and a large fan.
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post #2488 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:29am
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Originally Posted by holcombr View Post

What happenned to all the Sony 46" lcd sets. I went into Costco and all they have is the 32 - 40" sets that is under $800.00.
They have big sets. They are 3D and led and $1200.00 and up..............
I DON'T WANT THAT...........
Did I wait to long to find one???
I will be buying from Costco Best Buy, Walmart, or Sears

You should be able to find some Sony 46" sets at those locations.
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post #2489 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:31am
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Originally Posted by Dash525 View Post

1. Budget - $1000
2. Seating distance - about 6-8 feet
3. size/placement limitations - 47" max on stand
4. uses and sources - Hd and bluray 50% xbox 360 40% computer 10%
5. room lighting - Dark

Hello all. I've come close to picking out some tv's but need some input. I've pretty much ruled out plasma because of burn in. Looking at sony 40 and 46 ex500 and LG 42ld550 and 47ld650. I've read that lg has low input lag and sony has some issues with ghosting. Any recommendations on these or other televisions would be great. I have a Dell 24 inch moniter and i'm really tired of it.

I'm really glad I found these forums and thanks for any help

Cant do much better than those recommendations.

The LG LD520 is basically the same as the 550 without Internet Apps and WiFi.

There is no perfect TV. Pick your poison.

Sony will have better blacks, processing, and PQ....has nice Samsung/Sony S-PVA panel.

LG will have better viewing angles, and lower input lag...has nice LG IPS panel.

If gaming is more important, and not just gaming but competative FPS gaming, then get the LG.

If video PQ is more important get the Sony. It has Game and PC modes and the lag isnt too bad anyways. This is the one I would choose.
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post #2490 of 4421
2/23/11 at 12:36am
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Originally Posted by MrHuk View Post

1. Budget - £300 - 450 (absolute max)
2. Seating distance - About 4 - 5 feet
3. Size/placement limitations - No more than 42", it'll be on a stand
4. Uses and sources - Sky+ HD mostly, Bluray & Xbox 360.
5. Room lighting - Dark

I was looking at the Sony Bravia 40" EX403, I'm wondering if this is the best option for my budget?

Also, I currently have the Samsung 37" LE37R87BDX/XEU which is 720p and lacks a lot of the Bravia's features, so I'm guessing the Sony would be a noticeable upgrade both in picture quality and functionality?

Thanks for any help.

If you could swing it, I would get the EX500. However, Im not up on the UK market and wouldnt dare try to make value/budget recommendations for it.
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