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post #4111 of 5142
I didn't even realize this thread was here until after I started my other thread, sorry about that. I currently have a 46PZ850U and I'd love to get a 46 to 50" that's newer with more bells and whistles (smart TV etc..) but I'm not sure what to buy that will give me as good or even better PQ. PQ is paramount to me and I'm coming from a Plasma so I'm not sure if LED's offer the same level of PQ as Plasma. I would love to get an LED as I do like that they run much much cooler and draw less power than plasma but like I said PQ is paramount to me. At the time I bought this TV, LCD's just weren't there yet in terms of PQ but it's been some years now and I"m wondering if I can get a great LED set without compromising on PQ... any thoughts gents?

Budget: $1500ish
Distance from TV: 8 to 10 feet
Uses: 1080P content via HTPC (HDMI connected), PS3, Xbox 360
post #4112 of 5142
So I was hoping to get a little help with picking out an LED (or even a plasma) with one large caveat, it absolutely has to have a swivel base. I recently purchased a UN55EH6001 from best buy on the post black friday sale for $870. As for PQ, I'm not 100% impressed with it after calibration, the colors feel a bit washed out. I have a bit more available in my budget and am looking for a little direction. My previous 42in Samsung plasma had a swivel base, and I really didn't realize how important it was to me in my living room till it was gone. I have an open kitchen and we constantly swivel it towards the kitchen while we are cooking or eating at the table. I've tried a third party swivel base that the TV sits on, but it never stayed even and the weight of the tv moved the base too much, just didn't work.

The set is in a very bright room, floor to ceiling windows that are perpendicular to the tv about 6 feet away. I also have overhead track lighting with 14ft ceilings, however we never use it during the day, and at night its usually dimmed heavily.

Budget: $1300
Distance - 14 ft
Size - 55 or 60
Uses - Directv though HDMI, xbox 360, a LOT of sports/football watching.
Caveat - Must have a swivel base.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
post #4113 of 5142
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Originally Posted by dperls View Post

So I was hoping to get a little help with picking out an LED (or even a plasma) with one large caveat, it absolutely has to have a swivel base. I recently purchased a UN55EH6001 from best buy on the post black friday sale for $870. As for PQ, I'm not 100% impressed with it after calibration, the colors feel a bit washed out. I have a bit more available in my budget and am looking for a little direction. My previous 42in Samsung plasma had a swivel base, and I really didn't realize how important it was to me in my living room till it was gone. I have an open kitchen and we constantly swivel it towards the kitchen while we are cooking or eating at the table. I've tried a third party swivel base that the TV sits on, but it never stayed even and the weight of the tv moved the base too much, just didn't work.
The set is in a very bright room, floor to ceiling windows that are perpendicular to the tv about 6 feet away. I also have overhead track lighting with 14ft ceilings, however we never use it during the day, and at night its usually dimmed heavily.
Budget: $1300
Distance - 14 ft
Size - 55 or 60
Uses - Directv though HDMI, xbox 360, a LOT of sports/football watching.
Caveat - Must have a swivel base.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Swivel bases have gone from the lower end of the market due to cost cutting measures. Usually only the very top end models will still have them. If you are near a wall though, I can highly recommend a wall mount that not only tilts and swivels but extends from the wall on an cantilevered arm. With these I recommend that you purchase a more robust mount than they are rated for.....as an extra measure of safety.
post #4114 of 5142
Hi everyone and TIA

Needs
1. MATTE Finish.
I'm trying to minimize eye strain (no glossy panel, no glass in front of the LCD, no reflections, no coating over glass for supposed "matte" finish). I know many LCD panels are "matte" but you can still make out details in the room surprisingly well. It needs to be as easy on the eyes as TVs would be. This is the most important factor.
The one TV I've seen (so far) that has extremely impressed me with it's matte finish is Sharp LC-52LE640U my only problem is it's $1000 frown.gif

2. TV Size: 42 - 60 inches
I prefer somewhere in-between but I'm not even sure. I'm only familiar with 42 inch TV sets (I have 2) and I don't know how it would feel to bring anything larger. At the moment I have all the space to move closer further, but in the future I may be more constricted to a smaller space.

3. Quality of Internals and Picture Quality
I'm looking at this as a long term investment and want it to last for a very long time, that means I am willing to pay a little extra for something more reliable.


Budget
I want to spend 500-800
If I have no choice I can consider stretching that a little further.


Summary
There's no immediate rush for this to happen. I was hoping to gain some solid knowledge about quality panels and specific TV models that suit the needs I listed above. This way I can be aware of my options and hopefully find one of those specific TV's on a good sale.

Currently I own two Panasonic plasmas. Amazing detail and clarity no pixelation or other annoying glitches. But they both have glare, one is somehow far worse than the other! But moving forward reflections and glare are unacceptable. I want a TV that will work in all lighting situations and doesn't compromise first reliability and if it's better for my eyes even if it's at the cost of a little PQ.

So far the Sharp TV I listed above seems perfect, I'm not sure if I should consider a smaller size thinking ahead. Could care less about smart features and won't use them.

Also what's the difference between the Sharp 5 series and 6 series. The one linked above is a 6 series but there are cheaper 5 series in the same sizes.
post #4115 of 5142
Okay I definitely need help. You guys looked helpful and seem to have good information so I thought I'd ask here. I've read numerous buying guides that go over the terms and what specs to look for. The problem is actually finding the one that has the specs I want in my price range. And since I'm disabled and have no car, I can't really go into stores and browse.

I'm looking for a 1080p HDTV under or right around $500 with at least 3 HDMI inputs and other basic connectors like audio and maybe USB, etc. I've been mostly looking at tvs in the 40" - 45" range. I don't necessarily need extras like internet connectivity and things like that.

We are gamers here. That's probably 75% or more of what the tv will be used for. But my son also wants to be able to stream videos (like avi's, mp4's, mkv's) through a game console or directly from an external hard drive if that's available.


I'll try to answer the 5 questions from the O.P. here as best I can.

1> Around the $500 range.

2> 9 to 10 feet.

3> I plan to mount the tv. I don't have a tv stand. I've got an entertainment center but it's too small for an hdtv. It's meant for the old tube kind, which is what I've got now... an old 27" tv.

4> As I said, we're gamers so we need inputs for consoles. Currently we have a PS2, a Wii, an XBOX 360, and I'm planning to purchase a Wii U soon. And eventually I plan to get a PS3. So I'd like to at least have 3 HDMI inputs. Is there a device like a switcher that lets you plug in multiple HDMI sources and switch between them? I have an old one that uses the old A/V inputs.

5> The room isn't overly bright. I usually have the curtains drawn though they aren't the thickest of curtains. They do let some light in but it's not super bright.


Thank you guys for any help. If you need any other info from me, just let me know. =)
post #4116 of 5142
Thanks to all ahead of time for their time in helping me. I used this forum to help me a few years ago when I bought my Pioneer.

1. Budget
$200-$400, prefer to stay on the low side (as it will be used by young kids).

2. Seating distance
About 5-8 ft as this will be primarily a gaming system for the kids.

3. Size/placement limitations
Other than costs, I have no size/placement restrictions.

4. Uses and sources
The sources will be a WII and a BluRay (not purchased yet) and depending on the sound quality of the TV, maybe some sort of soundbar etc.
The TV will be primary used as a gaming screen and watching TV shows (Nick, CN, and other kids shows) over cable.

5. Room lighting
The room is well lit with double windows (south facing) behind the TV. There are also two overhead lights that can be turned off independently.

I am leaning towards the UN32EH4000 as it is readily available.
Any other options are welcomed.
post #4117 of 5142
I just sold off my my Sony KDL42EX620. I thought the picture was pretty solid, but I felt like I wanted a larger screen. Here's what I'm looking for:

1. Budget: $1000 to $2000
2. Distance: At most 8-9 feet. More likely 6-7.
3. Limitations: Cannot wall-mount, and will be placed in a corner.
4. Uses: Primarily gaming (PS3), but also movies, and possibly hooked up as a PC monitor
5. Room lighting: Moderate. The TV will sit just off from underneath an overhead light that shines on a nearby wall, and next to a window with blinds and curtains.

Essentially I'm looking for a moderate upgrade in both size and picture quality. Ideally I'd like a 50-inch with built-in WiFi. I'm hesitant about switching over to plasma, though. The Samsung high-end plasmas looked pretty good in terms of specs and price, but I'm nervous about screen glare and the "buzzing" reports on their units. What I'd really like to get is a higher-end Sony like the KDL55HX850. I really wouldn't mind paying for the HX850, but I'm just afraid that a 55 inch TV would be too large for my space. The best-quality Sony at 50 inches is the EX645. The price on that is perfect and I suppose it would be a step-up from what I just sold off. Any thoughts on how a screen like that would perform if hooked up to a PC?

And while I liked my last Sony, I'm not married to them. I'd consider another brand in the 50 inch size if it had the features and picture quality I'm after.

I'd really appreciate any suggestions.
post #4118 of 5142
So it's time for a new TV and I would love to get some recommendations.

1. Budget : $1000 (Bearing in mind that there will be boxing day sales soon)

2. Seating distance 8 feet

3. Size/placement limitations 46"

4. Uses and sources Bluray - PS3 - HDTV

Need 2 HDMI + an optical out. Wifi for streaming media from my PC would be a nice bonus, but not mandatory.

5. Room lighting medium to low light.


Been looking at the Samsung UN46ES6100FXZC but all the stores I've been to are using that particular model to display the difference between calibrated/uncalibrated picture and are only displaying static images. At this point I'm really unsure if I want a 120Hz TV over a 60Hz. I've noticed that roughly half the 120Hz TVs on sale are difficult to watch. The motion of people and the camera just seems odd and unnatural.Super smooth, yet jerky at the same time. I originally thought this was simply a characteristic of 120Hz TVs, but I only really noticed the problem with half the 120Hz TVs on display. The other half seemed to be smoother and clearer than a normal 60Hz TV but didn't have the odd jerkiness to it.
post #4119 of 5142
Hello everyone, I'm so frustrated with purchasing a TV. I bought a samsung 32 inch led only to return it because it kept shutting off. I replaced it with a 32 inch sony led but this one has motion judder ( I don't know the proper term ) when playing PS3 Games.

1. Budget - $ 500 or less
2. Seating distance - Less than 8 Feet
3. Size/placement limitations - Probably going on the wall
4. Uses and sources - Small bedroom TV mostly going to be used for PS3 Gaming
5. Room lighting - Black as the night

So should I get LCD or LED, I know there aren't too many smaller screen sizes for a plasma TV. Any help would be appreciated. I just don't want to purchase another TV on my own just to end up returning it. Just a good TV for gaming is what I want. 32 inch is preferable
post #4120 of 5142
Are there any 2D only 65" TVs that have the PQ of the 65ES8000? (Even earlier-series Samsungs that are still available, for example.)
post #4121 of 5142
didn't see this thread before.

led on a $700-800 budget?

getting a new tv soon, in the next week or so.... upgrading from a samsung 40 inch lcd 60hz 8 year old set.

wanted to go with plasma but for my needs it looks like led is the best choice...

looking for something in the 37-50 inch range.
laying down on a bed about 7-10 feet away

the use of the tv is a dual one, one being as a strictly bluray/dvd/non-hd source material viewer from discs, the second being a secondary monitor that plays video from my pc... mostly non-hd material such as something downloaded from youtube or a webisode from a website, or standard definition tv.... by dragging the video over from the primary monitor to the bigger screen to watch the video on media player classic home cinema.

would like 3-d for the futureproofing aspect and it's probably better to have it rather than not.

"smart tv" is not that important.

a headphone jack would be great, sound isn't that high of a priority.

the tv will be used ALOT for a wide variety of source material, probably moreso standard than high definition but 1080p/120hz i think is definitely a must.

any guidance is greatly appreciated, since i had my heart set on plasma i'm a bit lost on where to go with led.
all of the plasma burn in issues and complications seems like too much of a headache and doesn't meet my overall needs.

thank you! for any help given.

a quick check on best buys website showed:
LG
42inch lcd | 549 | 42CS570
42inch led | 699 | 42LS5700
42inch led | 799 | 42LM6200
47inch led | 579 | 47LS4500
47inch lcd | 650 | 47CS570
47inch led | 849 | 47LS5700
47inch led | 899 | 47LM6200
47inch led | 1099 | 42LM6200
50inch led | 699 | 50LS4000
55inch led | 849 | 55LS4500
55inch led | 899 | 55LM4600


PANASONIC
42inch led | 650 | TC-L42E50
42inch led | 799 | TC-L42ET5
47inch led | 729 | TC-L47E50
50inch plasma | 599 | TC-P50U50
50inch plasma | 699 | TC-P50UT50
55inch plasma | 899 | TC-P55UT50

PHILLIPS
42inch led | 649 | 42PFL5907/F7
46inch led | 849 | 46PFL5907/F7
50inch led | 949 | 50PFL5907
55inch lcd | 779 | 55PFL3907/F7

samsung
40inch led | 567 | UN40EH6000FXZA
40inch led | 579 | UN40EH6030FXZA
40inch led | 599 | UN40ES6003FXZA
40inch led | 749 | UN40ES6100
40inch led | 899 | UN40ES6500FXZA
46inch led | 749 | UN46EH6000FXZA
46inch led | 799 | UN46ES6100FXZA
46inch led | 999 | UN46ES6500FXZ
50inch led | 999 | UN50EH6000FXZA
51inch pla | 699 | PN51E530A3FXZA
51inch pla | 849 | PN51E550D1FXZA
55inch led | 999 | UN55EH6030FXZA
60inch pla | 999 | PN60E530A3FXZA


SHARP
40inch led | 449.99 | LC-40LE433U
42inch led | 699.99 | LC-42LE540U
46inch led | 999.99 | LC46LE540U
52inch led | 999.99 | LC-52LE640U
60inch led | 999.99 | LC-60LE600U
60inch lcd | 900 | LC-60E69U

SONY
40inch led | 799 | KDL40EX640
46inch led | 899 | KDL46EX645
46inch led | 1099 | KDL46HX750
50inch led | 1099 | KDL50EX645

i included the 1k dollar ones but i don't really want to go that high.

1 question would be is only the very expensive huge sharp tvs worth buying? cuz one of the smaller ones seemed to fit the requirements of what i'm looking for.
also is phillips worth the risk of getting over the big staple name brands? cuz same as the sharp they met the requirements.

how soon will 2013 tvs be out?

i swear buying a tv has been the hardest thing i've shopped for in a long time, every review says something different... every person says something different, some hate active 3-d/some love it... how does one decide what to get?

i can't really go to the store and look at stuff there.

all i need is a place to start.. if anyone can help. what's the safest route to go with the least amount of headache involved?
post #4122 of 5142
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Originally Posted by watcher6 View Post

didn't see this thread before.
led on a $700-800 budget?
getting a new tv soon, in the next week or so.... upgrading from a samsung 40 inch lcd 60hz 8 year old set.
wanted to go with plasma but for my needs it looks like led is the best choice...
looking for something in the 37-50 inch range.
laying down on a bed about 7-10 feet away
the use of the tv is a dual one, one being as a strictly bluray/dvd/non-hd source material viewer from discs, the second being a secondary monitor that plays video from my pc... mostly non-hd material such as something downloaded from youtube or a webisode from a website, or standard definition tv.... by dragging the video over from the primary monitor to the bigger screen to watch the video on media player classic home cinema.
would like 3-d for the futureproofing aspect and it's probably better to have it rather than not.
"smart tv" is not that important.
a headphone jack would be great, sound isn't that high of a priority.
the tv will be used ALOT for a wide variety of source material, probably moreso standard than high definition but 1080p/120hz i think is definitely a must.
any guidance is greatly appreciated, since i had my heart set on plasma i'm a bit lost on where to go with led.
all of the plasma burn in issues and complications seems like too much of a headache and doesn't meet my overall needs.
thank you! for any help given.


Bestbuy's prices are routinely crummy right now. Stick with Amazon for the time being, or at least have BB pricematch the amazon price.

I'd suggest 2 tv for you:


Neither seem to have that headphone jack though.
Edited by tgm1024 - 1/2/13 at 8:14am
post #4123 of 5142
BB prices do suck right now. I am kicking myself for not looking closer at a LC-60LE640U when a shop in town had it for $900.

Here is what I am looking for:

1. Budget - trying to stay around or under $1500 but will look at a great deal for a bit more
2. Seating - about 8-10 feet
3. Size/placement limitations - wall mount only & I want an thin / ultra-thin design
4. Uses and sources - Movies, TV, and Gaming
5. Room lighting - pretty dark and no direct sunlight onto the screen

If 3D is in there, great but I do no not necessarily need it. I am looking at 60-65" screens. I love the Samsung 7000 series but not the prices.

I've looked the the Sharp above, Vizio models E601i-A3, the M650VSE, and the M3D651V. I'll listen to any models people suggest. As a further reference, the "fat" Samsungs (6000) are out - but I think I hit on that in #3.

Thanks!
post #4124 of 5142
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Originally Posted by jmbreci View Post

BB prices do suck right now. I am kicking myself for not looking closer at a LC-60LE640U when a shop in town had it for $900.
Here is what I am looking for:
1. Budget - trying to stay around or under $1500 but will look at a great deal for a bit more
2. Seating - about 8-10 feet
3. Size/placement limitations - wall mount only & I want an thin / ultra-thin design
4. Uses and sources - Movies, TV, and Gaming
5. Room lighting - pretty dark and no direct sunlight onto the screen
If you're in a dark room, a plasma would work very well. It's not razor thin, but no where near as thick as you'd expect if you haven't seen one in a while. Plus, it's an emissive technology and very very smooth on motion.

Quote:
If 3D is in there, great but I do no not necessarily need it. I am looking at 60-65" screens. I love the Samsung 7000 series but not the prices.
I've looked the the Sharp above, Vizio models E601i-A3, the M650VSE, and the M3D651V. I'll listen to any models people suggest. As a further reference, the "fat" Samsungs (6000) are out - but I think I hit on that in #3.
Thanks!

For $1500, you can get the 55" I've been checking on: LG's 55LM7600. Sweeet looking, slim (enough), but only 55". For me, 55 is wizbang, but not for you apparently. FWIW (not much), I've hated every Visio model I've ever seen. Something very blurry about motion on them I can't put my finger on.
Edited by tgm1024 - 1/1/13 at 6:29pm
post #4125 of 5142
Hello, I am looking to purchase a new tv this month and would appreciate any help or recommendations. I currently have a 46" Toshiba and am looking for something a little bigger.

1. Budget - I'd like to keep it around $1000 or less but could go up to $1500 for the right tv
2. Seating Distance - 11 Feet
3. Size/Placement Limitations - None really, looking for something in the 55-60" range
4. Uses and Sources - Blu Ray, HD Cable box, Gaming (PS3), Netflix Streaming (thru PS3)
5. Room Lighting - Too bright to even consider plasma, a few windows and lights on at night. I know plasma won't work but am not sure about a glossy lcd screen. My Toshiba has a matte screen that works well but I don't want to limit myself here.

I want 120hz or 240hz, either one is fine. I just need to be able to turn something off to get rid of SOE when watching blu rays.

I would like 3D but it isn't a deal breaker. I am much more concerned with picture quality and reliability. I do not want to waste time returning something or speaking with customer service.

This is one I have been looking at:
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/55-panasonic-led-lcd-1080p-120hz-hdtv/prod6250124.ip?navAction=push
(this is the Sams Club version of the Panasonic TC-L55E50)

Sams also has some in my price range from Samsung/Vizio/LG.

Sound quality does not matter, I will be getting surround or a sound bar.

Internet Apps are great but I can do everything I need (blu ray/netflix/mlb.tv) through my PS3 so I'm not too worried about that.

Any help here would be appreciated. I am spending a lot of money and I want to be happy with my purchase.
post #4126 of 5142
Sorry I did not see this thread prior to starting.a.search for a tv. Here's what I'm looking for.

Budget- $1000-1500. Sweet spot would be $1300.

Size - 55" - 60". Would lean towards 60" for the right price.

Seating distance is around 10' - 11'

Uses- Sports, Cable.tv, currently do not have blu-ray. Daughter has Wii. Would like to have PC port to be able.to hook up laptop to play videos & music off HD. I have an older stereo and the only way i could hook it.up would be through rca jacks or would purchase sound bar.

Room lighting - My living room is.bright during the day with 3 windows to the left of where the tv would sit and my living room overlooks water.

Considered the Vizio e601i-a3 but it seems to be hit or miss depending on the reviews.

Smart TV or 3D are not dealbreakers since a laptop would be used to surf and would rathwr put that $$ towards a.better quality tv. Haven't decided if it will be wallmounted. Not sure if 120hz vs 240hz is a factor.

Any suggestions are appreciated.
post #4127 of 5142
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Bestbuy's prices are routinely crummy right now. Stick with Amazon for the time being, or at least have BB pricematch the amazon price.
I'd suggest 2 tv for you:
Panasonic 55" E50 for $849. http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-L55E50-55-Inch-LED-LCD/dp/B00752R9SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357085031&sr=8-1&keywords=55+e50
Panasonic 47" ET5 for $849 (3D---passive) http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-L47ET5-47-Inch-LED-LCD-Polarized/dp/B00752RAZY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1357085126&sr=1-1&keywords=panasonic+et5
LG
Neither seem to have that headphone jack though.

cool, thanks for the suggestions, i didn't think panasonic was as good with lcd as it is with plasma... but that's a good place to start.. the 47 inch looks close to what i'm looking for.

yeah it seems very few of them have headphone jacks.
i only saw a couple that had headphones.. if it doesn't have headphones i can work around it i guess.

i think the main concern is a good tv first, then headphone jack second.

do you know if the panasonic plasma ut50 is a way better tv than that 47 inch or not (i'm still kinda wanting the ut50 in the back of my mind)? like say would it be worth the worries over burn in to go with that over the 47 inch led because it's that much better sorta thing?
Edited by watcher6 - 1/1/13 at 11:07pm
post #4128 of 5142
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Originally Posted by watcher6 View Post

cool, thanks for the suggestions, i didn't think panasonic was as good with lcd as it is with plasma... but that's a good place to start.. the 47 inch looks close to what i'm looking for.
yeah it seems very few of them have headphone jacks.
i only saw a couple that had headphones.. if it doesn't have headphones i can work around it i guess.
i think the main concern is a good tv first, then headphone jack second.
do you know if the panasonic plasma ut50 is a way better tv than that 47 inch or not (i'm still kinda wanting the ut50 in the back of my mind)? like say would it be worth the worries over burn in to go with that over the 47 inch led because it's that much better sorta thing?

Absolutely no one agrees on questions similar to "this plasma vs. that LCD".....it depends on whether or not the plasma is bright enough for your room, and whether or not you're likely to see IR, and whether or not the motion issues of the LCD are ok for you, etc. I can't get a good read from this at all. THAT SAID, HOWEVER, so many people swear up down left and right that they've never encountered any IR on the latest "known brand" (like Panasonic) plasmas. Strictly speaking, from a picture quality aspect alone, plasma stomps all LCD (except a scant UBER expensive few like the Sharp Elite) into the ground. Even so though, even I, who is very demanding on PQ, am shopping for an LED-LCD. So you have to close your eyes hard and drive directly into the intersection for this decision. Not easy.
post #4129 of 5142
I need some help. I have a window with vertical blinds that will be directly behind my TV. I need a excellent quality 55" LCD TV that has a "matte" or, "anti-glare" screen. I perfer passive 3D but, I can make either technology work. Can someone please recommend some models to me?

Thanks!

Frank





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post #4130 of 5142
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Absolutely no one agrees on questions similar to "this plasma vs. that LCD".....it depends on whether or not the plasma is bright enough for your room, and whether or not you're likely to see IR, and whether or not the motion issues of the LCD are ok for you, etc. I can't get a good read from this at all. THAT SAID, HOWEVER, so many people swear up down left and right that they've never encountered any IR on the latest "known brand" (like Panasonic) plasmas. Strictly speaking, from a picture quality aspect alone, plasma stomps all LCD (except a scant UBER expensive few like the Sharp Elite) into the ground. Even so though, even I, who is very demanding on PQ, am shopping for an LED-LCD. So you have to close your eyes hard and drive directly into the intersection for this decision. Not easy.

tell me about it, i've been wrestling with the decision all week.

my initial instincts said to go with the plasma ut50 and every review i read on it had great things to say, i think i'm just gonna take the chance and go for it., i have a dark room and mainly watch tv at night so the only problem i have to worry about is ir/burn in..

if i had like 2k i'd go ahead and go for the high end led but i don't have that kind of budget.

hopefully it works out, thanks for your help.
post #4131 of 5142
Help me choose an HDTV. My head is starting to spin with research overload. Every time I think I get it narrowed down the next thing I read sends me spinning.
I get it, There is no perfect model especially on a budget. But I could use some advice on what might be best option.

1. Budget: (As little as possible and still be a good choice.) My original choice was going to be the Vizio M3D550KD because of CNET review and price. But that exact model is not available and the new similar one seems to have changed and may not be as good. I would like to spend less but looks like we are now in the 1500.00 – 2000.00 budget range. I would be more comfortable 1000.00 – 1500.00 but I am not sure what’s in that range based on what I have read. (Then again will my eyes see the difference anyway other than screen size.)
2. Seating distance: The new TV will be mounted on the wall in a new room that is now under construction. It is being bumped out from 8 x 13.5 to 13.5 feet wide and 20 feet long. I guess primary seating distance will be about 11 feet from TV wall. There will also be seating on the left and right of TV (Horse shoe) around the screen with hallway behind the right side couch. (There will be a lot of windows. See lighting)
3. Size placement limitations. I am having both of the long walls wired for cable so that I will have the choice of either side. I am also adding speaker wires that run to opposite side so I can use them for surrounds.
4. Uses and sources. Is this a man cave or my wife’s new soap opera venue. I would like to say WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) doesn't matter but of course it does. I watch sports (Football mostly) and a lot of discovery and science channels. I am also big Sci-Fi fan so blu-ray DVD. The wife watches sitcoms and Chic Flick movies. But when it comes to PQ I don’t think it matters to her. Styling and size is where the WAF comes in. We have FIOS cable and may look into streaming service such as HULU or Netflix.
5. Room Lighting: The room will be very bright. Especially in the morning. In the morning sun will be direct on windows. By the afternoon it will still be bright but not direct light. On one of the short walls ( Let’s call it the left wall ) there are four windows (Basically the hole wall is windows). There is also one window directly on each side of the four windows on both long walls. The right short wall has no windows. It has a solid door that is an exit to garage. If facing this right side short wall there is also a doorway on right to the rest of the house and a door on the left with a window to outside on the long walls. There is also another window next to the door that leads to the outside. So the wall on the right is basically a hallway with one wall. So the left is all windows (There will be a small table and chairs against the windows . These will be a able to see TV but are not primary viewing). The right is a one wall hallway. Currently I am planning on mounting the TV on the long wall between the two windows and door to outside. This wall space is 8 feet 4 inches between the windows. ( I assume that it is better on the same wall than across from windows) It is an option to mount TV directly across from windows on opposite wall. Primary seating will be directly across (Dual Recliners about 11 feet) from TV. There will also be a couch on right which will form the other side of hallway (parallel to right wall). Most viewing other than morning shows (Mostly listening) will be in the afternoon and evening. The sun will be either overhead or on the other side of the house by then. It will still have a lot of light with that many windows just not shining directly on the room at that time. I understand morning viewing may require some shades but normally they will be open. I would hate to think they have to be closed just to see the TV when sun was out.

I have gone to BB to look at different TV which has only added to my indicesion. Plasma no plasma (Bright room) LED LCD, IPS, edge lit. LG, Panasonic, Samsung. Jeez Samsung alone must have 100 LED models. Who can tell whats what. So based on my reading and looking at BB these are the models I am considering.

If I were to go with a plasma Panasonic 60st50 or 60GT50 vs Samsung PN60E7000 both costing top of range. Is the room to bright for a plasma? Is it to bright for any TV there for shades will have to be closed.
Then there is burn in issue (Samsung better ?) and some complaints about buzzing (Panasonic better?)

For LED I am even more confused. But I was thinking about these two LG models. 55lm7600 which has good reviews or the 60lm7200 which is bigger but does it have the PQ of the 55 inch. There no review on that model . I guess its for BB only.
Can’t figure out whats what for Samsung that’s in price range and has good reviews. I am leaning towards 60 inch but don’t want to sacrifice to much PQ. Plus I like the LG styling. I also liked the 55 inch Panasonic LED but the LG has better reviews.
The two 55 inch LED have IPS panels. From what little info I can find looks like the LG 60lm7200 does not. Does it even matter? And then there is reflections. Gloss - Matte whats what.
Do I need 60 inch or 55 be better (PQ and cost). Is bigger better? Would 65 inch be better no matter what the PQ and what would even be close to budget for that size.

It’s good I won’t be ready for a couple of weeks to buy. At this point I am leery about buying anything.
Thanks in advance for any advice that will help me decide.
post #4132 of 5142
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Originally Posted by dsgordon View Post

Help me choose an HDTV. My head is starting to spin with research overload. Every time I think I get it narrowed down the next thing I read sends me spinning.
I get it, There is no perfect model especially on a budget. But I could use some advice on what might be best option.
1. Budget: (As little as possible and still be a good choice.) My original choice was going to be the Vizio M3D550KD because of CNET review and price. But that exact model is not available and the new similar one seems to have changed and may not be as good. I would like to spend less but looks like we are now in the 1500.00 – 2000.00 budget range. I would be more comfortable 1000.00 – 1500.00 but I am not sure what’s in that range based on what I have read. (Then again will my eyes see the difference anyway other than screen size.)
2. Seating distance: The new TV will be mounted on the wall in a new room that is now under construction. It is being bumped out from 8 x 13.5 to 13.5 feet wide and 20 feet long. I guess primary seating distance will be about 11 feet from TV wall. There will also be seating on the left and right of TV (Horse shoe) around the screen with hallway behind the right side couch. (There will be a lot of windows. See lighting)
3. Size placement limitations. I am having both of the long walls wired for cable so that I will have the choice of either side. I am also adding speaker wires that run to opposite side so I can use them for surrounds.
4. Uses and sources. Is this a man cave or my wife’s new soap opera venue. I would like to say WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) doesn't matter but of course it does. I watch sports (Football mostly) and a lot of discovery and science channels. I am also big Sci-Fi fan so blu-ray DVD. The wife watches sitcoms and Chic Flick movies. But when it comes to PQ I don’t think it matters to her. Styling and size is where the WAF comes in. We have FIOS cable and may look into streaming service such as HULU or Netflix.
5. Room Lighting: The room will be very bright. Especially in the morning. In the morning sun will be direct on windows. By the afternoon it will still be bright but not direct light. On one of the short walls ( Let’s call it the left wall ) there are four windows (Basically the hole wall is windows). There is also one window directly on each side of the four windows on both long walls. The right short wall has no windows. It has a solid door that is an exit to garage. If facing this right side short wall there is also a doorway on right to the rest of the house and a door on the left with a window to outside on the long walls. There is also another window next to the door that leads to the outside. So the wall on the right is basically a hallway with one wall. So the left is all windows (There will be a small table and chairs against the windows . These will be a able to see TV but are not primary viewing). The right is a one wall hallway. Currently I am planning on mounting the TV on the long wall between the two windows and door to outside. This wall space is 8 feet 4 inches between the windows. ( I assume that it is better on the same wall than across from windows) It is an option to mount TV directly across from windows on opposite wall. Primary seating will be directly across (Dual Recliners about 11 feet) from TV. There will also be a couch on right which will form the other side of hallway (parallel to right wall). Most viewing other than morning shows (Mostly listening) will be in the afternoon and evening. The sun will be either overhead or on the other side of the house by then. It will still have a lot of light with that many windows just not shining directly on the room at that time. I understand morning viewing may require some shades but normally they will be open. I would hate to think they have to be closed just to see the TV when sun was out.
I have gone to BB to look at different TV which has only added to my indicesion. Plasma no plasma (Bright room) LED LCD, IPS, edge lit. LG, Panasonic, Samsung. Jeez Samsung alone must have 100 LED models. Who can tell whats what. So based on my reading and looking at BB these are the models I am considering.
If I were to go with a plasma Panasonic 60st50 or 60GT50 vs Samsung PN60E7000 both costing top of range. Is the room to bright for a plasma? Is it to bright for any TV there for shades will have to be closed.
Then there is burn in issue (Samsung better ?) and some complaints about buzzing (Panasonic better?)
For LED I am even more confused. But I was thinking about these two LG models. 55lm7600 which has good reviews or the 60lm7200 which is bigger but does it have the PQ of the 55 inch. There no review on that model . I guess its for BB only.
Can’t figure out whats what for Samsung that’s in price range and has good reviews. I am leaning towards 60 inch but don’t want to sacrifice to much PQ. Plus I like the LG styling. I also liked the 55 inch Panasonic LED but the LG has better reviews.
The two 55 inch LED have IPS panels. From what little info I can find looks like the LG 60lm7200 does not. Does it even matter? And then there is reflections. Gloss - Matte whats what.
Do I need 60 inch or 55 be better (PQ and cost). Is bigger better? Would 65 inch be better no matter what the PQ and what would even be close to budget for that size.
It’s good I won’t be ready for a couple of weeks to buy. At this point I am leery about buying anything.
Thanks in advance for any advice that will help me decide.

i won't even pretend to try and help you cuz i'm a total newb and know very little but it cracked me up about samsung having 100 models that's exactly what i was thinking to myself when researching...
from what i read/researched if you have a very bright room you only want a plasma (if you go plasma) with a good filter but again i'm a total newbie with little knowledge so i'll stay out of it haha.

i sympathize with you though.. buying a tv is a pain in the butt.
post #4133 of 5142
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If you're in a dark room, a plasma would work very well. It's not razor thin, but no where near as thick as you'd expect if you haven't seen one in a while. Plus, it's an emissive technology and very very smooth on motion.
For $1500, you can get the 55" I've been checking on: LG's 55LM7600. Sweeet looking, slim (enough), but only 55". For me, 55 is wizbang, but not for you apparently. FWIW (not much), I've hated every Visio model I've ever seen. Something very blurry about motion on them I can't put my finger on.

I appreciate and understand your points of view. My issue with the 55" is that I am replacing a 50" and want to go up in size. The 55 just is not a jump that I'd notice. That and my max size that I can fit in the space, without putting the ends of the TV in front of the speakers, is 65". That's really why I am down to a 60 or 65. I've seen plenty of 55" screens that I really like but I'll just keep my 50" until I find a 60 or 65 to fit the bill.

I was the same way when I looked at Vizio's several years ago. Everywhere I went that had them had the red hue to the picture. I tried changing the setting to no avail. I had written them off until I saw that 47" one last spring. They seem to have changed for the better.

What I have seen, and really liked, is the 7000 series Samsungs. Unfortunately they are above what I want to spend. If I had my Stewie time machine I would probably go back to last Saturday and get the UN60ES7150 for $1999 + $200 GC at Costco....but I did not realize what a good deal it was at the time (in a hurry) and passed it by. Of course that ended on Saturday and now it is $500 more with no GC.
post #4134 of 5142
Looking for a TV for my bedroom. Has to fit in a 40" wide cabinet. So I am looking at 40 and max 42" TVs. Budget around $700 - $800. I need internet but am thinking of getting a Panasonic DVD player for that and instead concentrate on a good TV. Can someone recommend a good TV that meets those specs?.
post #4135 of 5142
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Originally Posted by abrahavt View Post

Looking for a TV for my bedroom. Has to fit in a 40" wide cabinet. So I am looking at 40 and max 42" TVs.
(You know of course that the measurements of a tv are screen *without* the bezel, and on diagonal, right?) Make sure to always check out the width of the screen as published by the manufacturer. It'll tell you what you can put in what. That said, measure it in person at a store display. My father-in-law bought a TV that was supposed to be too big by specs but actually fit by the slimmest of fractions of an inch, so don't believe absolutely everything.
post #4136 of 5142
HI! I am in the market for a new TV. The last TV I purchased is the LG LH90 that resides in my living room. I need a smaller TV for the basement that will be used as a computer monitor for gaming and to watch (mostly sporting events) while running on my treadmill. 40" is the ideal size, but not much seems to be available. Most sets are 37" or 42". I'd like to spend under $500 if possible. I believe due to the use with games and sporting events that I should go 120 Hz. The only thing I have found so far is the Panasonic 42" E50 on Amazon, but it's a bit expensive right now at over $500. I don't really need any smart TV features, but I don't mind having them. So not many requirements but I don't have enough knowledge about the brands these days to know where I should begin to look. Thanks for the help.
post #4137 of 5142
I am looking for a 60" LED/LCD TV that will be used primarily for gaming and some movies. I have a budget of around $1000-1300 or so. Can anybody comment on these two?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009VRTEE6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2NG4HB43UEDVL


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OBZM8G/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A33ZFW15ZO0RKP


Also, this 55" is much cheaper, but supposedly very good. If it is better than those, I would consider buying it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752R9SW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
post #4138 of 5142
I'm looking for the following:

1. Budget

CAN$400-$600 pre-tax. I could afford more but I don't use the TV enough to want to spend the money.

2. Seating distance

I think it's about 6-10'.

3. Size/placement limitations

I would like 40" or 42" as I don't need or want anything bigger and it has to fit in my car!

4. Uses and sources

PS3 (primary use), DVD, rarely BluRay, VHS and probably NetFlix at some point.

5. Room lighting

It's the basement and although the windows are bigger than most, we keep the blinds closed so it's usually darker than other rooms.

Thanks
post #4139 of 5142
I have HP W2371d 23" ( backlit led, 1920 x 1080) and HP 2011xi 20" (ips led, 1600 x 900) monitors with me. Which one to keep for day to day use (not much gaming).
Links to further details:
http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Accessories/Monitors/B3A19AA?HP-W2371d-23-inch-Diagonal-LED-Backlit-Monitor
http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Accessories/Monitors/A9F73AA?HP-2011xi-20-inch-Diagonal-IPS-LED-Backlit-Monitor
post #4140 of 5142
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Originally Posted by ritholtz View Post

I have HP W2371d 23" ( backlit led, 1920 x 1080) and HP 2011xi 20" (ips led, 1600 x 900) monitors with me. Which one to keep for day to day use (not much gaming).
Links to further details:
http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Accessories/Monitors/B3A19AA?HP-W2371d-23-inch-Diagonal-LED-Backlit-Monitor
http://shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Accessories/Monitors/A9F73AA?HP-2011xi-20-inch-Diagonal-IPS-LED-Backlit-Monitor

What do you use it for / what do you value? I mean the 23" gives you more real estate and the 20" is (arguably) a better panel. You need to figure out what is more important to you.

As an example, if you are doing photo editing the IPS panel may be better.

I have two of the 23" models and have no complaints.
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