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post #4291 of 5135
I'm going to be buying a 50" to 60" for the living room in my new house. It's going to be mounted above a fireplace in a room that gets quite a bit of ambient light.
I really want a TV with a thin bezel, something like the Toshiba 55L6200U or the LG 55LM8600 or Samsung UE55D8000.
I'll only require 2 HDMI inputs but it would be great if it had S/PDIF output for all inputs. My current 40" Toshiba only outputs digital audio from the ATSC input.

I don't need 3D or 120Hz even though I'm sure those kinds of features will be included anyway, they just aren't important to me. I just want a good looking TV for a good price.

A local vendor has the Toshiba 55L6200U for $980 which seems to be a great deal to me.

When I'm shopping for my projector for my basement is when I'll spend a bit more and focus on picture quality.

EDIT: I bought a Toshiba 55L6200U.
Edited by rygy - 5/2/13 at 9:34am
post #4292 of 5135
Price range around $1400-$1500 But could spend alittle more. 55"-60"
Mainly watch tv and play xbox.

Samsung UN55ES7500
Samsung 7550 - Sold @ BJs


LG Cinema Screen 55LM7600
LG 7200 - Sold @ Best Buy

Or maybe there's something better?
Will there be any price drops with samsung?
Edited by srd5335 - 3/6/13 at 8:38am
post #4293 of 5135
Well, got the Insignia NS-39d240a home but not sure it's going to stay. It has the potential to be a very nice set but the white balance is overdriven to a blue-green point even in warm. Normal and cool are unwatchable. I had planned to tweak the WB but after a few hours of searching I have found no trace of what the code is to enter the service menu. skin tones are terrible.

I guess I will try codes from random manufactures since I have no idea who made this puppy, if I can get in and fix it a bit I'll take it out to my cousin.
post #4294 of 5135
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Originally Posted by Matt L View Post

Well, got the Insignia NS-39d240a home but not sure it's going to stay. It has the potential to be a very nice set but the white balance is overdriven to a blue-green point even in warm. Normal and cool are unwatchable. I had planned to tweak the WB but after a few hours of searching I have found no trace of what the code is to enter the service menu. skin tones are terrible.

I guess I will try codes from random manufactures since I have no idea who made this puppy, if I can get in and fix it a bit I'll take it out to my cousin.

Hisense makes most Insignia's, I'd check them.
post #4295 of 5135
The Insignia NS-39d240a Service Menu code is --Menu 1999 Select ---if anyone is interested. There is a burn in mode, and "burn room" that cycles through Red Blue Green Yellow black White. Just to show how bad the color adjustment is the yellow screen is chartreuse. Everything was set at 500, equal, I guess that is why everything had an aqua tint. I'll play with it and report back.
post #4296 of 5135
Do you guys think I should get the Samsung E550 or should I get a different model or even wait till the 2013 tv's come out? How well is the E550 for gaming? If you guys have any other tv suggestions with a budget around $700-$800 I would really appreciate it.
post #4297 of 5135
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Originally Posted by Matt L View Post

The Insignia NS-39d240a Service Menu code is --Menu 1999 Select ---if anyone is interested. There is a burn in mode, and "burn room" that cycles through Red Blue Green Yellow black White. Just to show how bad the color adjustment is the yellow screen is chartreuse.

Thanks for the morning laugh-out-loud!!!!!!
post #4298 of 5135
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Originally Posted by GGnoRE View Post

Do you guys think I should get the Samsung E550 or should I get a different model or even wait till the 2013 tv's come out? How well is the E550 for gaming? If you guys have any other tv suggestions with a budget around $700-$800 I would really appreciate it.

The 2013 model will be the F5500 and I don't imagine too much of an improvement in terms of performance from the E550 to the F5500.

For the price point, I'd have no hesitation in looking at/buying the E550 or the Panansonic U50 in the 50" as well.
post #4299 of 5135
Sorry, Im a noob and started a new thread before I saw this one.

All I care about in a TV is HD picture quality, size and having a decent viewing angle. No smart apps, extra features or 3D necessary.

1. Budget around: 1200 and below. Fairly hard ceiling. Wanted to spend less that 1000 but willing to go a couple hundred more for a jump in quality.

2. Seating Distance: Its a big open room so Ill put the couch at what ever is optimal for whatever size TV I end up getting.

3. Size/placement limitations: 55+ but willing to go down to 50 to get the best picture quality

4. Uses and sources: HDTV, Gaming, Netflix. 2 HDMI inputs total

5. Room lighting: Very bright room

Here is the orignal post from the thread I started. Again im sorry for the clutter. Ive been reading review after review for a couple months and now starting to get into the reading various forums. Im not an experienced poster.

I have been scouring the internet and local electronic stores searching for the first TV I will buy on my own and I think Ive finally settled on my choice of the UN55EH6000 or possibly the 60in model. I was also looking at the Vizio E601i-A3 and the Sharp Aquos LC-60LE640U decided on the samsung for the better viewing angle than the other two according to consumer reports.

All I care about in a TV is HD picture quality and having a decent viewing angle. Other factors like remote controls, sound quality, and smarts apps dont matter to me as I will be using other products. 3D has never really interested me and I feel like the extra cost of that is keeping the next level of quality TVs out of my price range. However, if a TV is the best quality in the 1200 and below price range that has it, so be it. I havent used 3D as an excluding factor in my search whatsoever. It just seemed like these 3 TVs were the best bang for my buck.

I have looked at some plasmas that seem to meet these characteristics, but I watch TV in a bright room, during the day most of the time, so I dont think its an option. However, Im not opposed to a plasma at all, if it has good quality and can be used in a bright room.

I was hoping to find out if I have looked over a better option in the 1200 and below price range. Id be willing to go as small as 50ins to get the best picture quality to meet the price range but obviously would like to go as big as possible.
post #4300 of 5135
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Originally Posted by Trauber103 View Post

Sorry, Im a noob and started a new thread before I saw this one.

All I care about in a TV is HD picture quality, size and having a decent viewing angle. No smart apps, extra features or 3D necessary.

1. Budget around: 1200 and below. Fairly hard ceiling. Wanted to spend less that 1000 but willing to go a couple hundred more for a jump in quality.

2. Seating Distance: Its a big open room so Ill put the couch at what ever is optimal for whatever size TV I end up getting.

3. Size/placement limitations: 55+ but willing to go down to 50 to get the best picture quality

4. Uses and sources: HDTV, Gaming, Netflix. 2 HDMI inputs total

5. Room lighting: Very bright room

Here is the orignal post from the thread I started. Again im sorry for the clutter. Ive been reading review after review for a couple months and now starting to get into the reading various forums. Im not an experienced poster.

I have been scouring the internet and local electronic stores searching for the first TV I will buy on my own and I think Ive finally settled on my choice of the UN55EH6000 or possibly the 60in model. I was also looking at the Vizio E601i-A3 and the Sharp Aquos LC-60LE640U decided on the samsung for the better viewing angle than the other two according to consumer reports.

All I care about in a TV is HD picture quality and having a decent viewing angle. Other factors like remote controls, sound quality, and smarts apps dont matter to me as I will be using other products. 3D has never really interested me and I feel like the extra cost of that is keeping the next level of quality TVs out of my price range. However, if a TV is the best quality in the 1200 and below price range that has it, so be it. I havent used 3D as an excluding factor in my search whatsoever. It just seemed like these 3 TVs were the best bang for my buck.

I have looked at some plasmas that seem to meet these characteristics, but I watch TV in a bright room, during the day most of the time, so I dont think its an option. However, Im not opposed to a plasma at all, if it has good quality and can be used in a bright room.

I was hoping to find out if I have looked over a better option in the 1200 and below price range. Id be willing to go as small as 50ins to get the best picture quality to meet the price range but obviously would like to go as big as possible.

Thoughts:
  • Stay clear of Vizio anything. If I go into why, I'll have to start an additional "The Official Vizio Rant Thread" in this subforum.
  • The panasonic ET5 is loved by many, but not by me.
  • HOWEVER, the DT50 is the next model up and is using their highest end IPS panel (I think it's alpha-IPS, but not sure: they call it "clear panel Pro"). I passed on it mostly because it's Active-3D (and I want passive), but you don't care, so I would consider it. I'm also a little dissappointed about Panasonic's IPS implementation which just doesn't have the viewing angle they claim, HOWEVER, that's primarily with the ET5.......and I've heard from others that the DT50 is a completely different quality. Only problem is it's $85 out of reach for you right now. frown.gif But it's on a price slide:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752R9W8
    amazon.png?force=1&zero=0&w=725&h=440&desired=false&legend=1&ilt=1&tp=all&fo=0
  • The "good" sony's aren't going to drop to your price range for a while I don't think. If they do, look for the 55" HX750. Or the 850 if you're absurdly lucky. For the most part, IIRC, the biggest complaints had to do with the smart apps.
  • I can't speak for the Samsungs any longer.....ask about them. I had a lot of bad luck 2 years ago fighting their firmware and panel [lottery] quality issues, so I'm anti-sam for a while.


BY THE WAY:
  • Always add into your budget the cost of an extended warranty. Costco's version of the Square Trade is pretty much the cheapest, though I don't have an opinion on their quality.
  • And always sort user reviews by "newest" and not "most helpful" because things change dramatically (both hardware and firmware) during the lifetime of a model.

Edited by tgm1024 - 3/9/13 at 8:19am
post #4301 of 5135
Surprisingly I thought the Vizio's looked good but the sharp aquos is much better Imo. Sharp aquos by far or Panny plasma. Act fast though last year's models at cheap prices are getting hard to come vby. Managed to get lucky and find a Panny 60" plasma for under 800$ new in the box.
post #4302 of 5135
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Originally Posted by frogpond1 View Post

Surprisingly I thought the Vizio's looked good but the sharp aquos is much better Imo. Sharp aquos by far or Panny plasma. Act fast though last year's models at cheap prices are getting hard to come vby. Managed to get lucky and find a Panny 60" plasma for under 800$ new in the box.

"Panny 60" plasma". <----Huh? Please give model #'s!!! :-P
post #4303 of 5135
What's the best picture at 40" to 43"? Cost is only mildly concerning. $1,000 would be fine.

I've been looking for an LED backlit with local dimming, but none are made in this size... is that because edge lit works fine up to 43"?

My understanding is that the LED backlighting can (not always does, but CAN) have better contrast, color, and motion. So I leaning towards this technology.
post #4304 of 5135
hi everyone, im in the market for a new tv. im interested to know what your favorites are for 46" led lcd tvs with 3d, with only smart apps and with neither. im still undecided on which of these features i want to be prepared for in the future and the price would probably be the deciding factor. id like to spend no more than $1300 but my budget could be higher if it was an exceptional deal. thanks!!
post #4305 of 5135
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Originally Posted by Mickey_C View Post

What's the best picture at 40" to 43"? Cost is only mildly concerning. $1,000 would be fine.

I've been looking for an LED backlit with local dimming, but none are made in this size... is that because edge lit works fine up to 43"?

My understanding is that the LED backlighting can (not always does, but CAN) have better contrast, color, and motion. So I leaning towards this technology.

The LED backlight has nothing to do with motion unless you're talking about a BLS (backlight scan or backlight flicker.)

If you're looking at some of the 2012 closeout models I'd consider the EH6000 from Samsung. Solid TV for the price. It's a backlit, not an edge lit.

The EX645 from Sony is a pretty solid option as well in terms of performance. It is an edge lit model and also comes with Smart functionality.

If PDP's aren't out the realm of possibility and you can get past the lower resolution, or you're sitting far enough away, then the E450 or now F4500 from Samsung are also really solid options for the price.

Of the batch mentioned, I'd give a hard look toward the EX645.
post #4306 of 5135
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

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Originally Posted by Trauber103 View Post

Sorry, Im a noob and started a new thread before I saw this one.

All I care about in a TV is HD picture quality, size and having a decent viewing angle. No smart apps, extra features or 3D necessary.

1. Budget around: 1200 and below. Fairly hard ceiling. Wanted to spend less that 1000 but willing to go a couple hundred more for a jump in quality.

2. Seating Distance: Its a big open room so Ill put the couch at what ever is optimal for whatever size TV I end up getting.

3. Size/placement limitations: 55+ but willing to go down to 50 to get the best picture quality

4. Uses and sources: HDTV, Gaming, Netflix. 2 HDMI inputs total

5. Room lighting: Very bright room

Here is the orignal post from the thread I started. Again im sorry for the clutter. Ive been reading review after review for a couple months and now starting to get into the reading various forums. Im not an experienced poster.

I have been scouring the internet and local electronic stores searching for the first TV I will buy on my own and I think Ive finally settled on my choice of the UN55EH6000 or possibly the 60in model. I was also looking at the Vizio E601i-A3 and the Sharp Aquos LC-60LE640U decided on the samsung for the better viewing angle than the other two according to consumer reports.

All I care about in a TV is HD picture quality and having a decent viewing angle. Other factors like remote controls, sound quality, and smarts apps dont matter to me as I will be using other products. 3D has never really interested me and I feel like the extra cost of that is keeping the next level of quality TVs out of my price range. However, if a TV is the best quality in the 1200 and below price range that has it, so be it. I havent used 3D as an excluding factor in my search whatsoever. It just seemed like these 3 TVs were the best bang for my buck.

I have looked at some plasmas that seem to meet these characteristics, but I watch TV in a bright room, during the day most of the time, so I dont think its an option. However, Im not opposed to a plasma at all, if it has good quality and can be used in a bright room.

I was hoping to find out if I have looked over a better option in the 1200 and below price range. Id be willing to go as small as 50ins to get the best picture quality to meet the price range but obviously would like to go as big as possible.

Thoughts:
  • Stay clear of Vizio anything. If I go into why, I'll have to start an additional "The Official Vizio Rant Thread" in this subforum.
  • The panasonic ET5 is loved by many, but not by me.
  • HOWEVER, the DT50 is the next model up and is using their highest end IPS panel (I think it's alpha-IPS, but not sure: they call it "clear panel Pro"). I passed on it mostly because it's Active-3D (and I want passive), but you don't care, so I would consider it. I'm also a little dissappointed about Panasonic's IPS implementation which just doesn't have the viewing angle they claim, HOWEVER, that's primarily with the ET5.......and I've heard from others that the DT50 is a completely different quality. Only problem is it's $85 out of reach for you right now. frown.gif But it's on a price slide:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752R9W8
    amazon.png?force=1&zero=0&w=725&h=440&desired=false&legend=1&ilt=1&tp=all&fo=0
  • The "good" sony's aren't going to drop to your price range for a while I don't think. If they do, look for the 55" HX750. Or the 850 if you're absurdly lucky. For the most part, IIRC, the biggest complaints had to do with the smart apps.
  • I can't speak for the Samsungs any longer.....ask about them. I had a lot of bad luck 2 years ago fighting their firmware and panel [lottery] quality issues, so I'm anti-sam for a while.


BY THE WAY:
  • Always add into your budget the cost of an extended warranty. Costco's version of the Square Trade is pretty much the cheapest, though I don't have an opinion on their quality.
  • And always sort user reviews by "newest" and not "most helpful" because things change dramatically (both hardware and firmware) during the lifetime of a model.

Addendum:

Hoozthatat just jogged my memory. The Sony EX645 comes in a 50" model, which you said was a size you might consider. I doubt it somewhat, because you were already evaluating 60"ers and the size difference between those two is enormous-ish.

The KDL50EX645 is $999 right now.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL50EX645-50-Inch-1080p-Internet/dp/B008XG1N7C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362878772&sr=1-1&keywords=50EX645
post #4307 of 5135
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

"Panny 60" plasma". <----Huh? Please give model #'s!!! :-P

P60u50 or p60u54(same as the u50) at Sams club for 800.
post #4308 of 5135
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Addendum:

Hoozthatat just jogged my memory. The Sony EX645 comes in a 50" model, which you said was a size you might consider. I doubt it somewhat, because you were already evaluating 60"ers and the size difference between those two is enormous-ish.

The KDL50EX645 is $999 right now.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL50EX645-50-Inch-1080p-Internet/dp/B008XG1N7C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362878772&sr=1-1&keywords=50EX645

Thanks for the help. I am moving into a new apartment so im not too worried about size difference as I havent lived in the space the TV is going into yet. Obviously I would prefer bigger but I am much more concerned with picture quality. I originally planed on getting a 47 but when I found out that these bigger TVs were within my budget I decided to jump up a bit. I am liking the sony. My parents have an older bravia, not sure on the year or model so I know its not exactly a great comparison, probably about 8 years old, but it always looked great and still does. Its a 47 and in a space thats similar in size to what Im going to so as a benchmark from that I think 50 would be ok. Its probably the frontrunner for me right now.

I did see that the LG 55LM7600 is at 935 on Abes of Maine and 871 on Buy Squad. Anyone know if Best Buy would match these prices? Im a little wary about buying from an internet vendor.
post #4309 of 5135
Good point. I didnt notice that. Another site did the price and shop option wrong. They had the specs up from a 55 model but they price and shop went to the 47.
post #4310 of 5135
Any advice for a unit in a highly reflective environment would be greatly appreciated!

Large picture window, Cosmo fireplace (all glass, mounted ~ 40" off the floor and very reflective) with a 6' going to 8' aquarium with very intense lighting. I had a LG LM8600 in the room, picture quality was good with way too reflective and two units quit working on me. Gave up on LG.

1. Budget around: $1000-$1500, less is better. I'm not sure if I want to spend $2000 on a TV right now.

2. Seating Distance: ~ 10' to each position, couch and love seat in an L configuration.

3. Size/placement limitations: 50" max, 46" most likely anything else just won't fit in the corner.

4. Uses and sources: HDTV, Netflix, streaming movies from MKV's

5. Room lighting: Very bright & reflective environment room

I like the All in One aspect of Smart sets. I have a conduit from the TV location back to a closet for any associated gear, intent it to keep is clean and simple in this room. Samsung 7100 series I'm looking at, Sony HX850 looks nice- price and reflective qualities have be concerned there. I'm open to suggestions.
post #4311 of 5135
Anyone out there have any thoughts on the Samsung UN46ES6003? I hear so many good things about Samsung, and TigerDirect has it for $697. I keep reading that I should stay away from VIZIO, even though they're so tempting with their low prices like the VIZIO E470i-A0 for $598. I could really use some advice here to sway me one way or another. Still looking for a 45" to 49" tv with at least a 120hz refresh rate, really good picture quality, and costs $700 or less. I don't need the SMART tv features, nor 3D, just a solid tv that will last awhile.
post #4312 of 5135
I Paid $650 for UN40EH5300 Samsung LED Smart TV, come to find out, there was a panel lottory in which I lost & received the sharp panel HH02. I'm returning the TV but I need better suggestions on what to buy, instead...I, preferably, want another LED Smart TV...Could the motion blur be a result of the 60Hz, when I need 120Hz? Now, I have $700 to spend on a TV...I need a smart tv because I stream a lot, especially from plex media server...
Edited by Swagged - 3/12/13 at 3:39am
post #4313 of 5135
Buy a TV for a TV, buy a streamer to stream. Many good streamers out now under $100...
post #4314 of 5135
I need help choosing between two tvs. First is the Vizio E503AR. Or for 30% (clearance price for both) more i can get the Panasonic TC-P55UT50 plasma. The room will be fairly dark and sitting about 7-8 feet away. Picture quality is important to me and also the ability to handle SD source material well is a must. Viewing will also include blu-ray and hd OTA.

Thank you for your help!
post #4315 of 5135
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Originally Posted by whymeintrouble View Post

I need help choosing between two tvs. First is the Vizio E503AR. Or for 30% (clearance price for both) more i can get the Panasonic TC-P55UT50 plasma. The room will be fairly dark and sitting about 7-8 feet away. Picture quality is important to me and also the ability to handle SD source material well is a must. Viewing will also include blu-ray and hd OTA.

Thank you for your help!

This isn't even up for debate. The UT50 is the hands down choice here. Night and day above the E503AR and anything else from Vizio for that matter. Grab the UT50 and enjoy it, it's a very solid FP and one you won't regret.
post #4316 of 5135
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Originally Posted by hoozthatat View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by whymeintrouble View Post

I need help choosing between two tvs. First is the Vizio E503AR. Or for 30% (clearance price for both) more i can get the Panasonic TC-P55UT50 plasma. The room will be fairly dark and sitting about 7-8 feet away. Picture quality is important to me and also the ability to handle SD source material well is a must. Viewing will also include blu-ray and hd OTA.

Thank you for your help!

This isn't even up for debate. The UT50 is the hands down choice here. Night and day above the E503AR and anything else from Vizio for that matter. Grab the UT50 and enjoy it, it's a very solid FP and one you won't regret.

Hooz, there are complaints about buzzing that show up now and then from various models: is this largely because of the 2012 push to make things brighter? And/Or is it just luck of the draw with all plasmas (some louder than others)? I'm assuming it's always a complaint with white (or otherwise bright) images.
post #4317 of 5135
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Hooz, there are complaints about buzzing that show up now and then from various models: is this largely because of the 2012 push to make things brighter? And/Or is it just luck of the draw with all plasmas (some louder than others)? I'm assuming it's always a complaint with white (or otherwise bright) images.

I've never had an issue with buzzing on my PDP even with something like say hockey, which I watch probably 4 times a week during the season. I would say it's more of a "luck of the draw." I've yet to see a PDP which had such an inherent buzzing issue that it was truly prevalent and enough to make me want to avoid it.
post #4318 of 5135
I second that, there is no comparison between a Panny and a Vizio. As to the so called buzzing I have 2 plasmas and neither buzzes any more than my LCD units - which is zero % of the time. Non-issue.
post #4319 of 5135
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Originally Posted by Matt L View Post

I second that, there is no comparison between a Panny and a Vizio. As to the so called buzzing I have 2 plasmas and neither buzzes any more than my LCD units - which is zero % of the time. Non-issue.

No, it's not a "non issue". A "non issue" is if it didn't happen to anyone. You and Hoozthatat have testified that it doesn't happen to you, nor has Hooz seen one. But the complaints are there, they are real, and it doesn't take much searching to find them.
post #4320 of 5135
Help me out here guys. Looking for a TV that is...

-40" or more
-I don't mind 720p as long as it looks nice, but 1080p would be great
-under $420
-I don't need a smart TV or 3D
-WIll be using it for PS3/360 and maybe my Macbook Pro( need 1080p for that )
-Currently have a Panasonic Viera 32" 720p TV from 2011 that I like( I want something bigger though )

I was looking to buy with in the next 2 months. I don't want to wait till BF as many of the TVs that are on sale are crap. I have been checking Slickdeals for good deals every day.
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