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post #4561 of 5135
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Originally Posted by BigBillah View Post


I am in the market for a new 55 inch LED TV. I have currently have a 42 inch LG 42LE5500, which we bought about 3 years ago and which I have been very happy with. But now we are fixing up the house and included in that is an upgrade to the entertainment set ups in a few rooms. I am not a gamer and like the thin bezel TVs. Picture quality is the no. 1 consideration. Should also mention the room is bright in the day time, though I work very long hours so most of my TV time is at night. Have narrowed it down to a few choices:

(1) LG 55LA6900 -- seems to be a mid-range good TV that is going for slightly over $1000 now on Amazon and Best Buy (BB is also offering 1 year of Netflix free)

(2) LG 55LA7400 -- a step up from the 6900, just not sure it is worth the price difference (going for about $1699 on BB and Amazon)

(3) Samsung UN55F7100AFXZA -- I really like the look of the Samsung and the picture quality looks to be slightly better than the LGs, though it is tough to tell based on just 30 minutes of comparison on the BB showroom floor. Also going for about $1699 at BB and Amazon.

Basically, is the 6900 a quality purchase? I don't mind spending the extra money on one of the other two TVs as long as the "step up" is worth it.

Thank you for your help.

What's worth for you, not necessarily worth for others. The LA7400 has better picture quality than LA6900, somewhat. Higher refresh rate also helps (theoretically), but if you think that Samsung is better for you, then choose the one which looks better for you. Nobody reviewed F7100 yet (I mean pro reviewers), so it's hard to compare it against others.
post #4562 of 5135
Hi,

I'm just a newbie in buying TVs and would like to ask your opinion on which is the best among these or if there are any alternatives that you can suggest.

Below are the prices in my country i already converted it to usd

1. Sony KDL-47W804A - P80k around $1800
2. LG 47LA7400 - P63400 around $1430
3. Samsung PS51F5500 - P58k around $1330
4. Samsung UA46F6400 - P58.1K around $1330

Currently i am leaning towards sony but i was thinking if it is worth it.

1. Budget: $1800

2. Viewing distance: 9 ft.

3. Uses: ps3 watching bluray rips

4. Lighting: with blinds and light can shomewhat pass through

5. Others: i want features like "tru motion" (the one where the movements are smooth).

Thanks a lot!
post #4563 of 5135
i made this post a while ago but i am updating it with TV's i have looked at and would like opinions on.
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1. Budget - $3000 and one for around $2000 with same #2-5
2. Seating distance - 10ft
3. Size/placement limitations - 50"+
4. Uses and sources - Video Games, Movies, Streaming from computer and HDD
5. Room lighting - not bright. not dark.

ps.
HTPC setup soon also

Samsung UN60F8000
VIZIO M601d-A3R
LG Electronics 55LA7400

i would like to make sure these are 2012 or 2013 models. i know the Vizio is way below my price range but i heard its a very good TV.
Edited by slack2116 - 8/20/13 at 11:12am
post #4564 of 5135
HI

Looking for a new LED.

Are there any TVs that don't include all the "smart" features/apps, but have the highest quality picture. Wondering if eliminating the bells and whistles will get me a better picture for cheaper.

Budget= around $2000

Sizes= 55" and up

Uses= Gaming-40%, Movies-30%, HDTV/Streaming-30%

No "soap opera" effect or a way to remove it

3D

Best PQ, Don't care about AQ

Thanks!
post #4565 of 5135
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Originally Posted by slack2116 View Post

i made this post a while ago but i am updating it with TV's i have looked at and would like opinions on.
Samsung UN60F8000
VIZIO M601d-A3R
LG Electronics 55LA7400

i would like to make sure these are 2012 or 2013 models. i know the Vizio is way below my price range but i heard its a very good TV.

Why not XBR55HX950? It's a very good set.
post #4566 of 5135
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Originally Posted by Selvos View Post

HI

Looking for a new LED.

Are there any TVs that don't include all the "smart" features/apps, but have the highest quality picture. Wondering if eliminating the bells and whistles will get me a better picture for cheaper.

Thanks!

The general rule is that high-end models will have better PQ and more 'bells and whistles'. With some exceptions, ofcourse, like Samsung 8000 series and 7000 series or Panasonic's VT and ST series (depends on year).
post #4567 of 5135
Still not sure what way to go

1. Budget - $2700 or less
2. Seating distance - 15ft
3. Size/placement limitations - up to 70inch
4. Uses and sources - Mainly Sport HD Channels, movies and some Xbox - Pioneer HDMI receiver runs it all
5. Room lighting - TV will be next to a window, do have dark window drapes to control the light

So far i have eliminated Sharp 857 series due to good amount of clouding, screen uniformity and lag

Sony KDL-55W900A appears solid however viewing angle is an issue?

Samsung F8000 series is next on the list to research....

Anything else you guys can recommend and why?

Thx
post #4568 of 5135
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

If your dad is migrating to a larger display, have you thought about plasma? It sounds like the light is manageable during the day, so reflections off the screen might not be a problem, and he could go up to 60 inches. And off angle viewing will not be an issue. The LG 60PA5500 is currently under $800 at HH Gregg, and received good reviews:

http://www.hhgregg.com/lg-60-class-1080p-plasma-hdtv-59-8-actual-diagonal-size-/item/60PA5500

http://www.amazon.com/LG-60PA5500-1080p-600Hz-Plasma/dp/B007976WNG

Make sure pop checks out some real HD content too. Were you planning on upgrading cable to HD? How large was the old crt?

If he is sitting between 8 to 11 feet away from the set, a 40, 42, or even a 50 inch set could look just slightly larger than his existing TV. One rule of thumb is to take the size of the screen you are shopping for, and multiply by 1.5 to calculate the minimum viewing distance. So, for a 60 inch TV = 60 X 1.5 = 90 inches or 7.5 feet. 40 inch panel = 40 X 1.5= 60 inches or 5 feet even. To get the maximum viewing distance , double the result.

With a larger display, it's much easier to discern text at a greater distance. Especially as your eyes get older....

Ok, he currently has--I think--a 27" or 32" Magnavox CRT. He is 65.

I honestly have a bit of concern regarding reflections. He has a table light to his right with the base sitting at shoulder level sitting down that can be in the way at times, and the window to the left of the tv is fairly tall and about four feet wide.

Thanks for the links to the LG. It looks like it is out of stock (yes I'm admittedly very late in responding to your kind response--I'm a dummy). Would this TV be similar? http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-60PN6500-60-Inch-Plasma/dp/B00BBAG0FM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_2. I was always kinda worried about Plasma because of burn in. In general I was under the impression LCD or LED was going to be better.


I think he plans on upgrading his TV package to make HD channels available. I don't have cable so I don't know exactly what he's looking at price wise for that.

He is a stubborn man and didn't seem to keen on getting the best he could, but I'll let him know about the calculation. I don't know a whole lot about the math behind televisions, but are any of the ones I listed good for the money? THey are all local and are ones he has seen and said he liked well enough.

A few general questions:

How much will we see the MHz? Is 120MHz important to get? I sometimes see that it is all a ruse and that those numbers they advertise are crap.

This is kinda for me (but could apply to him too), but two things I HATE about the Vizio I have is the stutter I see when the camera pans at certain speeds, and the halo certain foreground objects get (especially in FPS games). Do those issues happen on modern TVs? (I got my Vizio in like 2008 or 2009.

Again thanks for the information. I'm learning a lot.


EDIT: Added a link, and asked an additional question.
post #4569 of 5135
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Originally Posted by M00KIE View Post

Still not sure what way to go

1. Budget - $2700 or less
2. Seating distance - 15ft
3. Size/placement limitations - up to 70inch
4. Uses and sources - Mainly Sport HD Channels, movies and some Xbox - Pioneer HDMI receiver runs it all
5. Room lighting - TV will be next to a window, do have dark window drapes to control the light

So far i have eliminated Sharp 857 series due to good amount of clouding, screen uniformity and lag

Sony KDL-55W900A appears solid however viewing angle is an issue?

Samsung F8000 series is next on the list to research....

Anything else you guys can recommend and why?

Thx

Viewing angle on sony w900a is actually good ( http://www.hdtv-database.com/sony-kdl-55w900a ). Don't know where you got your information from.
post #4570 of 5135
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Originally Posted by AndrewPT View Post

Viewing angle on sony w900a is actually good ( http://www.hdtv-database.com/sony-kdl-55w900a ). Don't know where you got your information from.


I read it in the owner's thread...
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1458698/official-sony-kdl-55w900a-owners-thread
post #4571 of 5135
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Originally Posted by M00KIE View Post

I read it in the owner's thread...
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1458698/official-sony-kdl-55w900a-owners-thread

Ok, this is interesting. Lets go hunting for facts or in other words - who's lying? (I'm talking about information sources, not users).


I have read/scanned that thread (whole) for viewing angles and here is the summary:

- One guy decided that viewing angles probably won't be good. He didn't have TV, nor did he saw it live.

- Somebode posted review link to some UK reviews site, which has unknown reputation, and reviewer wrote that viewing-angle isn't great.

However, this contradicts to other 2 expert reviewers from US, who say that angle is actually quite good.

- One of the first owners posted pictures from off-angle and according to his own opinion, viewing angle is ok. But he couldn't manage to get proper off-angle due to his room size limitation.

- Another user who bought tv wrote:
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Yeah, there is some drop off in PQ once you increase the viewing angle, but once you have the initial
loss of contrast, which isn't that bad, it stays pretty good out to an extreme angle.

- One more user, who saw TV live, also wrote:
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I had a good look at viewing angles and they are IMO very good, there is a little drop of in contrast but nothing like some reviews made in out to be.

And thats it. No more information about viewing angles in that thread.


My own personal conclusion: choose information sources which you can trust. Don't believe everything you read. There are some review sites which write fake reviews or do them very unprofessionally.
post #4572 of 5135
Help! I need a new TV for the bedroom. Anything between 42 and 50 inches will be fine, 45-46 prob the sweet spot and 2D is fine. I have a Sony 55HX929 downstairs and it is absolutely epic but I guess these backlit LED local dimming sets are impossible to find and would be too expensive for a bedroom TV anyway. My dream set for this room would be a 46HX929. Knowing the PQ and type of display I like, can anyone recommend something that might possibly satisfy me for a budget under $1600? What is the best possible PQ I can get for this budget?
post #4573 of 5135
I am looking to get a new 40in led lcd to replace my 7 year old Sharp Aquos LC-32GP2U. looking for a led in hopes that it will not get as hot as my current tv does. the tv can only be 21.8in tall without a stand, so it needs a thin bezel which seems to be standard on nearly all new tvs. I have a receiver and speakers so I only need 1 hdmi in, and I don't care about the speaker quality. I also have my PC hooked to my receiver, so I don't want a smart tv. And I don't realy care if it has 3d or not. I just want the best picture quality I can possibly get for around $500. the biggest problem I have with my current tv is the lack of detail in dark scenes, so fixing that is a must in the new tv. so far I have been considering the Samsung UN40FH6030, Sony R450A, and the Toshiba 39L2300U. It looks like I can get the UN40FH6030 for $527 on sale from Samsung's website. id probably get it through amazon, but is it actually on sale, or is it always that price? recommendations and suggestions will be appreciated. thanks for the help
post #4574 of 5135
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Originally Posted by musicmafia View Post

Help! I need a new TV for the bedroom. Anything between 42 and 50 inches will be fine, 45-46 prob the sweet spot and 2D is fine. I have a Sony 55HX929 downstairs and it is absolutely epic but I guess these backlit LED local dimming sets are impossible to find and would be too expensive for a bedroom TV anyway. My dream set for this room would be a 46HX929. Knowing the PQ and type of display I like, can anyone recommend something that might possibly satisfy me for a budget under $1600? What is the best possible PQ I can get for this budget?

Unfortunately you won't get anything closer to HX929 with a 3x lower budget... the closest would be KDL-46HX850
post #4575 of 5135
Hi, I'm looking for the best LCD a thousand dollars (I can move up a little) can buy, anywhere in between 40 and 50".

I'm considering the 50" ST60 Panasonic plasma, but hesitating because of the high-maintenance needed.

Even though a similarly priced LCD will have a lesser PQ, what are my best alternatives?

Thanks!
post #4576 of 5135
That's all you have: either plasma or led(lcd).
post #4577 of 5135
What is the best possible 45" to 50" set for PQ under $1500?

I lean towards Sony models and researching the 47W802A right now. Anyone recommend something with better PQ or is that as good as I will find for the budget?
post #4578 of 5135
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Originally Posted by musicmafia View Post

What is the best possible 45" to 50" set for PQ under $1500?

I lean towards Sony models and researching the 47W802A right now. Anyone recommend something with better PQ or is that as good as I will find for the budget?

You may take a look at TC-L50E60 as well. Although Sony should be slightly better.
post #4579 of 5135
1. Budget
$900 ($1050 if through amazon due to $155 store credit). Lower is better -

2. Seating distance
10-13 feet

3. Size/placement limitations
I think I prefer a 55 inch. In terms of space, none but I would like a lighter set.

4. Uses and sources
Primarily used for gaming, Netflix, Blu-ray. Occasionally watching sports (football & hockey)

5. Room lighting
Two large windows to the right of the viewer (left side if facing viewer from TV). Sun comes in windows typically between 1000-1200. Windows do have blinds, but not completely light blocking.
post #4580 of 5135
after some research online and an hour at BB looking at 50 different sets, I went for the sony 47W802A for the bedroom TV. price has dropped a lot on this model and it looked great so it wasn't too difficult. it's not true backlit like my epic 55hx929 downstairs but again for a little more than a g-note, it had the best pq to me by far in its class or price range. hopefully get it set up tonight....
post #4581 of 5135
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Originally Posted by musicmafia View Post

after some research online and an hour at BB looking at 50 different sets, I went for the sony 47W802A for the bedroom TV. price has dropped a lot on this model and it looked great so it wasn't too difficult. it's not true backlit like my epic 55hx929 downstairs but again for a little more than a g-note, it had the best pq to me by far in its class or price range. hopefully get it set up tonight....

Write your impressions. How is performance? Picture Quality, Glare, Viewing Angle, etc.
post #4582 of 5135
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Originally Posted by AndrewPT View Post

Write your impressions. How is performance? Picture Quality, Glare, Viewing Angle, etc.

will do. it was so late by the time I got it set up that I didn't get a chance to even watch more than just a quick channel check. for the few seconds I saw, looked good right out of box...hoping to watch later, get into settings menu tonight and start tweaking those....I already know it's a keeper, especially at $1099 smile.gif
post #4583 of 5135
Hello AVS! I'm looking to purchase my first semi-expensive TV, so need some help. I'm coming off of a 5-year old 37" Olevia, so I'm not really sure what's the best for me to be looking at.

1. Budget - Approximately $600, no more than $650

2. Seating distance - I'd estimate 8-9 feet

3. Size/placement limitations - It will be placed on a large , open-sided TV stand, not mounted. So no limitations, but sturdiness in the base is needed.

4. Uses and sources - Main source will be HDMI to HTPC running Plex. as both the client and server. As such, a Smart TV isn't necessary, since HTPC can handle any of it; however, for power reasons and ease-of-use the Smart TV features would be used if available
Secondary use will be as a wireless display for my laptop via Miracast. It appears certain LG and Samsung models have Miracast built in, or else I can use an external receiver like a Push2TV or ScreenBeam. Not sure if there's less lag or other benefits to the integrated solution?

5. Room lighting - Living Room next to sliding glass doors. The blinds are generally left open to allow for natural lighting, but even closed doesn't fully block it.


My main concern is getting one which works presentably as a computer display. I do a lot of my work out in the living room and working off of a 10" screen is maddening over time (although the 1920x1080 resolution make the screen a bit better). I also plan to leave it on for my dog during the day, as it has a calming effect on him, so power consumption is somewhat important. This is where the Smart TV features would be useful, as I could leave the HTPC off.

A sound system isn't in the cards for this gadget go-round, so at least acceptable audio from the built-in speakers.

The LG 47LN5750 is what I came up with; it appears to fit what I'm looking for, and comes in at $598 (starting tomorrow). It's also an all-in-one unit for my needs (could be good or bad): natively supports Miracast/WiDi, MediaLink allows it to connect to remote Plex server (not dependent on HTPC as client), Smart TV apps, and decent-looking speakers.

Am I missing anything with this unit, or is there a better unit for what I'm looking for?
post #4584 of 5135
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Originally Posted by musicmafia View Post

will do. it was so late by the time I got it set up that I didn't get a chance to even watch more than just a quick channel check. for the few seconds I saw, looked good right out of box...hoping to watch later, get into settings menu tonight and start tweaking those....I already know it's a keeper, especially at $1099 smile.gif

Any more impressions of the W802A? That set, although in the 55" version, is high on my list for the PQ alone. It doesn't get stellar reviews around the 'net mainly saying it is overpriced but what do "they" know. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. I'm seeking one for the living room as my main set.
post #4585 of 5135
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Originally Posted by Cla55clown View Post

Any more impressions of the W802A? That set, although in the 55" version, is high on my list for the PQ alone. It doesn't get stellar reviews around the 'net mainly saying it is overpriced but what do "they" know. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. I'm seeking one for the living room as my main set.

I've been holding off on more comment until I can spend more time with it and tweak my settings BUT I am already blown away by the PQ, especially for the cost. It's now down to $1099 for the 47" and I haven't seen one set in that price range that came close to the PQ I'm getting. "They" also said the 55HX929 was too expensive and indeed it was pricey but out of the box I was glad I returned my 55VT30. The 929 is absolutely epic. My friend who owned an Elite said my 929 is the only set he has seen to rival it.

Back to the 802, I used my Fifth Element BD (I know its old but ive always used it so it works well for me as a starting point) to tweak the BD input settings and I must say the PQ on this 802 is damn near the 929 on BD. I watch 2D only. The ONLY place it falls short of the 929 is in black levels but to get 90% of the PQ of the 929 for 33% of the price is fine by me. I am blown away how Ive got it looking on BD so far. Still working on HD TV settings but so far this set is exceeding my high expectations. I have seen nothing for this price that compares to it.
post #4586 of 5135
That's great to hear musicmafia. I like a product that makes a solid first impression and it sounds like this one does. Fifth Element is a awesome flick btw...one of a list of movies I can watch over and over. Multipass! I need to pick that one up on BR myself.
post #4587 of 5135
PS another minor shortcoming out of the box is the built in speakers, no highs, which makes dialog sound muddy and muffled. fortunately there are some good audio settings, including a 7 band eq so I just tweaked upper mids and highs (a lot) and bumped up a "voice" setting and it's much better...Since yours is for your LR i'm guessing you have it hooked up to real speakers anyway....my 802 is in the BR and I didn't want the clutter of ext speakers....
post #4588 of 5135
Yeah, I never worry about the sound of these panels...have my current TV sitting on a Zvox 555 and plan to continue using that if/when I pick up the Sony W.
post #4589 of 5135
Hello,

First I would like to say my apologies if this is a duplicate post. I saw similar post, however they were not quite what I was looking for. I currently have a Sony 40XBR9 and I am looking to upgrade. At this time I can only fit at the most a 47in in this room. I started researching various models and have became overwhelmed with all of the suggestions and review. I have received good advice from AVS members in the past so I thought I would put this out there and see what happens. I was originally looking at the Samsung 46in F8000 series however I will be moving in the next year or so and will probably want a bigger tv. So I think $1000 is reasonable. After looking at all of the models this week I now feel like my head is going to explode. Below are the list of models that I have researched so far.
  • Vizio M471i-A2
  • LG 47GA7900
  • Samsung UN46F8000BFXZA
  • LG 47GA7900
  • Samsung UN46F7500AFXZA
  • LG 47LA7400
  • Samsung UN46F7100AFXZA
  • LG 47LA6900
  • LG 47GA6400

I care most about picture quality. I would also like the model to have a thin bezel. I am not really sold on the smart feature or 3D, however they are a plus. I know there isnt a perfect TV, however if any can provide some help I greatly appreciate. Thanks in advance.
post #4590 of 5135
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Originally Posted by rcmjr View Post

Hello,

First I would like to say my apologies if this is a duplicate post. I saw similar post, however they were not quite what I was looking for. I currently have a Sony 40XBR9 and I am looking to upgrade. At this time I can only fit at the most a 47in in this room. I started researching various models and have became overwhelmed with all of the suggestions and review. I have received good advice from AVS members in the past so I thought I would put this out there and see what happens. I was originally looking at the Samsung 46in F8000 series however I will be moving in the next year or so and will probably want a bigger tv. So I think $1000 is reasonable. After looking at all of the models this week I now feel like my head is going to explode. Below are the list of models that I have researched so far.
  • Vizio M471i-A2
  • LG 47GA7900
  • Samsung UN46F8000BFXZA
  • LG 47GA7900
  • Samsung UN46F7500AFXZA
  • LG 47LA7400
  • Samsung UN46F7100AFXZA
  • LG 47LA6900
  • LG 47GA6400

I care most about picture quality. I would also like the model to have a thin bezel. I am not really sold on the smart feature or 3D, however they are a plus. I know there isnt a perfect TV, however if any can provide some help I greatly appreciate. Thanks in advance.

The Samsung 46" 8000 series is $1700 so seems to be way above your budget of $1000. In my opinion, you need to see the Sony 47W802A. Currently on sale for $1099 (BB, Amazon, etc). Read my posts on the last couple pages but the best thing you can do is go and see it for yourself side by side with your other choices.
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