Official Sony BDP-S570 Owners Thread - Page 48

Or the Wii. Both are way better than on the Blu-ray players.

I read yesterday that the Wii is now also diskless.

I really have no complaint with Netflix performance on my 570 other than wanting to not need a pc to populate the que. I am using the 5ghz band of my dual band wireless N router for all my media streaming and I think that wireless G probably would not be enough for Netflix hd streams.

Wireless-G max is 54mbps. More than enough for netflix hd streams. It all depends on your provider.

Joe,

Well I think I've finally cracked it - and as I promised to pass it on - so here goes.

First off my original problem was due to me having a BDP-S560 and not the 570. The 560 just won't do anything more than pass pictures (JPEG's) over the wireless - picture great - but wireless is virtually irrelevant.

So I gave up on that and bought a new 570 (I'm a glutton for punishment!). You can imagine how I fealt when I unpacked it, plugged it in, and couldn't even get it to see my home network.

First thing I established was that the Sony and my new wonder router (Thomson) wouldn't talk using anything other than using manually entered WEP settings. They would sync using the magic red button on the router and then tell me they hadn't. Amazingly though it did do a firmware upgrade off the web - go figure!!!! I tried just about every combination of security settings on the Sony and the Router to the point when the signal strenth as shown on the Sony pretty much disapeared (from two adjacent rooms!!).

I was on the point of taking the Sony back when I decided to swap out my new wonder router with the old D-Link. Suddenly I could see Internet sites on the Sony and play them from the router to the Sony and on to the rest of my home audio.


But I still couldn't see any files from my home Network. Actually couldn't even see the home network - although the home network could see the Sony. I tried MS Media Player and TVersity - still no go. Couldn't see any servers under the Server section of the home Network setup.

Since then it's been a slow hard slog of changing settings - with each one being largely unsuccessful.

Until this morning when I made a serious attempt to get to the bottom of the problem. ie instead of just playing I decided to have a good think first.

And the final key in the lock was to look closely at the settings in my Zone Alarm Free Firewall and allow IP filtering above port 1394. That seemed to immediately do the trick and now I can see (and play) my home network music files. I'm sure that I will still have issues with better integrating the software Media Server Software - but that's going to be easy compared with the sort of things I've had to wade through with, it has to be said, the only real useful help coming from this forum.

So finally a few observations from a guy (now retired to New Zealand - where Sony kit cost twice what is does anywhere else!!!) who spent most of his 30 year career working with various computers and finally operating as an IT Consultant in the City of London. So, with some kind of pedigree, I can say that what happened to me can't really be what the electronics industry wants? can it????.

1. First off being naive enough to trust the salesman who assured me that the 560 could network. He was correct to a degree - but not to any useful extent.

2. I'm still waiting for Sony Network Specialist Support to call me back. The main phone helpdesk guy I spoke to should have pointed out my error with the 560 - the Sony Centre guy in Wellington was excellent later on that point I have to admit.

3. The Thomson Router (main one supplied by Telecom NZ) I got wouldn't won't work properly with the Sony and it's going back. Again something that I would have thought should have appeared on the warning list from Sony - the Thomson is the current wireless router of choice from Telecom NZ - but like I say it's going back...

4. Useful documentation from Sony is almost non-existent. Nothing that came in the box was any use and while there is information on the Sony-Europe site it didn't help me in any significant way except of course to give me the confidence to keep on going.

5. There are a lot more settings in Vista and Zone Alarm to consider. It is entirely possible that my final fix of the IP filtering in the Firewall only worked because of some of the others I had changed earlier.

6. So it is possible - I always knew it would be. But if Sony et al in the industry expect "streaming" to take off they had better look a lot harder it the user experience - I reckon 90% plus of people in my position would have given up long ago...... or been a pain in the butt for the various helpdesks.

7. It shouldn't be this hard. It takes me a few seconds to connect my Smartphone to the internet and that includes security, browsing and multiple email accounts. Streaming audio with Sony - days and wasted phone calls!!! It shouldn't be this hard.

So that's it from me. I'll continue to look at the forum of course but my particular issue seems to be solved. So, sorry for the length of this, but it really grates when people use forums to get info and then don't bother to mention later when the issue they started with gets fixed.

And Joe, thanks again.

jon

Try the Wii version if you get a chance. It is simple, full-featured, easy to use.

Hey, you got it working. I agree, you shouldn't need to be an IT person to hook up a BR player. I also went deeper and added a Yamaha RX-V867 that is networked also. I wanted SACD, so I needed the HDMI for its DSD ability. The interface is similar to the S570, and .100 through .104 are reserved by my router's DHCP. Everything works. Amazing. I have enough stuff to keep me busy all winter. Take care Jon. Thanks for the feedback. Now, if Sony gets some 5.1 music on line .....

If mp4's have to be transcoded by the DLNA server, how can they be played locally on a USB flash drive?

Also, what is the best software and output format to use when converting DVD's to streaming files from a Windows PC?

Well the mp4 issue is the fact the player supports certain formats and codecs that work from local media only when we're speaking native support mp4/h.264 is one such codec in this position. aac is another example but those can work through transcoding. I'm thinking because it's easier to pass audio then video through other formats.

As far as windows software for DVDs, I'm not really knowledgable when it comes to windows software unless the program also has a Mac version as well. There are a couple windows titles I know of for converting video though. Look for a post in this thread on a program called super, I also use TSmuxer sometimes. Handbrake has a windows version but it's for putting DVD movies into itunes format aka mp4 h.264. It's possible to then convert the movie file to mpeg 2, but then you're looking at quality loss. What you want is a program that will rip the vobs directly without copy protection on the end result. Maybe others know good windows solutions for this. On the mac there is an older program called mactheripper that does the job.

I'll just throw in a note here: windows is a secondary os for me as is linux. Any specific programs I need like this, I run in a virtual machine with very little to no trouble at all. I prefer native os x apps when possible though.

Thanks for the clarification.

Anyone out there with suggestions for converting DVDs to the best format for streaming to the BDP-S570 from Windows 7 64bit?

Sup guys

I know that the PS3 allows the background to be changed to whatever you like, but unfortunately I don't have a PS3. I do have Sony's BDP-S570 blu-ray player. It's interface is the same as it is in the PS3 which is Sony's xrossmediabar yet I'm having trouble finding the option to change the background image.

Thanks guys

How do these two players (Sony BDP-BX37 vs. Sony BDP-BX57) compare in video quality? What are the major differences besides the the BX57 having WiFi and 3D capabilities (I don't need either at the moment)? I've tried to find a good comparison between the two (or the equivelent Sony BDP-S370 vs. Sony BDP-S570) but can't seem to find a direct compare. My main concern is video quality, HD audio bitstream over HDMI and a good Netflix streamer.

Thanks for any help in advance...

If you don't need WiFi or 3D, then the 37 will suffice, as there really are no other differences between the two models.

Anyone happen to know which codec VC-1 is? my plant earth blu-rays report they are in VC-1 when I display the onscreen info. Most blu-rays are AVC which i h.264.

Google is your friend:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VC-1

Thank you, I'll read through that wikilink.

Power up your blu-ray player and go to the Netflix channel immediately. Does your blu-ray player display a message saying "Checking the network connection. Please wait." but doesn't enter the Netflix channel and you have to press the circle button again to enter Netflix? I have a Sony N460 and it does this and was wondering if the Sony S370, 470, or 570 blu-ray players doe the same thing when trying to run the Netflix channel as soon as possible from power up of the blu-ray player.

Netflix account isn't needed. The 570 does the same thing. My Sony 32EX700 also behaves in a similar manner. I get the picture, but things don't work right for about 30 seconds. This is a byproduct of our digital world. The early digital flat panels would not display anything until they were ready, then they would display a banner, and now you get a picture quickly, but changing channels could still be slow depending on your source.

It does seem to be specific to Netflix though. That's strange.

Actually it not only happens with Netflix, but with the Slacker and Pandora channels as well, and I'm not sure about the other internet channels on this blu-ray player do it but I'm not going to test every channel on this blu-ray player.

If I'm quick enough to click on the internet channels after the player's interface finishes loading, it actually would display that message twice, for example in this order: power on blu-ray player -> click on Netflix -> message displays -> message goes away -> click again on Netflix (as quick as possible) -> message displays again -> message goes away -> click again on Netflix -> this time I can enter the Netflix channel.

If I wait like 10 seconds after the player's user interface finishes loading and don't click on anything then I don't get that message and the internet channels load on the first try. On my PC and Xbox 360 I don't have this problem. I was going to buy a Sony S570 if it didn't have this problem but I guess I'm still sticking with my N460.

I wish I could roll back the most recent firmware update.

The Sony feeds an Onkyo 608. Two other HDMI sources work without incident-a dish box and a Sony HDD 250 DVR. The bx57 worked well too, before the update. I had it set to "pass through" the disc format.

After it, I found I could play a standard DVD, but could not get blu ray to work. The DVD would load and play, but no xross. The blu disk would load, and the display would show numbers moving- but no picture. The xross also would not come us, so no netflix either. I had wonderful Netflix prior to this (Fios + a good n spec router)

If I played a standard DVD it would play, but stopping it didn't bring up the xross- I got a blank screen again.

I reset the player (holding stop for ten seconds)-the unit then put out a 480p line picture (via hdmi).

I found that the Sony would put out 480 i or p, 720p or 1080i and work fine. If I selected 1080p or "auto", back to the black screen. It would not "take".

So, I've got it set for 1080i, playing blu ray, netflix and SD DVD. This is a step backwards, as pre update, the Blu Rays were pass through 1808p, the SD dvds 480i, and netflix gave either a 720p or 480p picture. I much preferred the pass through and letting the Panasonic plasma (1080p native) do the scaling.

Any way to roll back the update-I got 3d which I don't care about and cannot use but lost 1080p and pass though functionality.

Did you try turning off HDMI deep color? I read from another poster it fixed their netflxi and other issues. It was something sony told them to do.

Nope, just tried that. Still won't take 1080p output. I've run this unit and a prior BDP 350 1080p into this setup. It's not an HDMI error message, and I don't think it's a handshake problem. The unit just refuses to put out a 1080p signal. I mean, I can live with the 1080i signal, but its not right....the unit should be passing through the disc's 1080p or 480i as it used to......

Thanks .

Yeah, I'm confused too, because I have the latest firmware and I'm able to do 1080p just fine. I have no audio issues etc. The only difference in our setups is my unit is connected directly to the tv via HDMI. I have a sony bravia 32 inch in the bedroom I'm using with this unit. Model number KDL-32EX400.

Hope this helps.

I hate updates that can't be reversed too. On the Sony, you selected 1080p? What firmware are you using? Perhaps you didn't state that item correctly?

Nope, still gone. Works fine at 1080i. This is my second sony unit, the other is upstairs (retired to the bedroom only because it does not stream and we had a wii for that location for the SD set) I'm familiar with their system.

Firmware is current according to the xross "update" function. (Mo4.r.708)

Its not a handshake issue, or the hdmi would not work at 1080i or 720p, right ? I've turned off deep color, extra bits etc. I get full functionality at all resolutions other than 1080p, things look "right", etc.

I probably can't see any difference as while the set is fed at 1080i, the screen scans 1080p, but this is stupid. I always try for the best possible picture, which is why I'm here !

Thanks.

The output of the S570 is 1080p when I set that with "Output Video Format - HDMI Resolution". When that is set, the S570 sends 1080p to my A/V receiver or TV no matter what the S570 source. The S570 does a test to see if that is ok during my S570 Setup selection. My Yamaha 867 receiver and Sony EX700 TV pass the test. This is a 2D test. Don't know much about 3D, sorry. I also have installed the latest firmware via the internet.

I'm sorry this may be a horrible noob question but i've been trying to figure it out forever.

I recently purchased a BDP-S570 and have done all the necessary updates and am connected to the internet with a wired connection.

I thought I followed all the instructions on how to get netflix to work but to no avail.

I have the netflix account paid for
updated my S570
created the sonystyle account
Activated the enhanced features on the S570 and entered the registration number onto the sony site; product shows that my device is registered.

netflix does not show up anywhere on the video tab or any other tab in my S570 option menus. I thought it would appear once I registered on the sonysite with the activation code.

netflix is asking for an activation code and I have no idea where to find it on my device as there is no netflix to be found on it

I do live in Canada if that makes a difference but I did buy the netflix.ca account.

I'm completely stumped... I wanted to try out both amazon vod and netflix but I cannot see either.

If anyone could possibly help me it would be greatly appreciated.

my tv is a panasonic 54vt25

thanks in advance,
chad

Cheers, Chad! Unfortunately, Sony.ca has not upgraded their firmware for Netflix.ca and, rumour has it, there might even be a problem with some 2010 TV/DVD models not being able to support the Netflix.ca platform, i.e., some LG models. We have yet to hear from Sony.ca.

Presently, I, too, am hoping that Sony Canada is able to update this via firmware. Right now, I'm streaming Netflix.ca via the Wii (yea, 480p resolution!).

Why wouldn't the canadian models of the unit be able to support netflix ca? and if the canadian sony does have the same hardware, what would stop someone using the u.s firmware with netflix support? I'm not familiar much with blu-ray firmware yet, but that's one way to work around limitations with computer software in some cases.

I've done some various types of hacking software in the past to get things to work or two tweak things so hacking a blu-ray player's firmware would be an interesting topic for me.

Have you downloaded "Internet Content"? First you have to register your player (which I'm assuming you did already from reading your post). After that you have to down the Internet Content, which is all of the things you are looking for. It is in the Setup Menu under "Video" (looks like a piece of film strip) between "Music" and "Network". This will add a whole bunch of content, one of which is Netflix. At least this is how it worked for the US model I have.

Good luck to ya...

I just bought an S570 yesterday when my PS3 died and I could use some set up help.

I tried to set it up using my Pioneer Elite 84txsi receiver doing the HDMI switching, but I get an "Unsupported Signal" error on my Sony TV which I assume is a copyright issue.

With HDMI connected to the TV, I get the picture okay, but the Optical Cable to the receiver will only give me a stereo signal and I cannot get a Digital 5.1 or DTS signal. I've tried changing all of the audio settings on the Blu-Ray player as well as trying several different movies (which worked fine on the PS3) and I can't fix the problem.

If I plug the HDMI cable into the receiver with a movie playing, I instantly get 5.1 digital surround, but I lose the picture.

Does anyone know how I can get true digital surround output from this Blu-Ray player using an optical cable directly to my receiver and HDMI cable to my TV.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.