Official Sony BDP-S570 Owners Thread - Page 49

I hate to say this, but I had a setup close to yours only weeks ago. My receiver was an older JVC without HDMI. My TV is a Sony 32EX700. The TV has HDMI control disabled. Everything on the S570 has DD or DTS enabled where it's an option. I would feed the HDMI from the S570 to the TV HDMI1 port, and the audio via S/PDIF (coax) to the JVC. The TV TOSLINK was also sent to the JVC. Both would pass DD5.1 (the TV does not pass DTS) to the JVC. The S570 should be no different with optical to your receiver rather than coax.

What is your testing method? I have used both DVD and BluRay with no problems with 5.1 but I just jumped up to a Yamaha RX-V867 so the S570 sends it just HDMI and I lost many audio cables. I still have the TV optical though. I know my TV sends DD5.1 out the optical if it gets DD5.1 in from any source or input. I hope this helps. Silly question: could it be a HDMI bad cable?

A copyright message on your TV from a TV input would be strange too. The AVS thread on your receiver might be of help.

Thanks, JoeKustra.

I'll have to try the optical out of the TV and see if that works. I currently have the optical straight from the S570 to the receiver.

My receiver seems to have a documented HDMI issue. With my PS3 hooked up through the receiver, I could play games and watch DVDs, but Blu Ray discs would give me the same "Unsupported Signal" issue on the TV.

I spoke with my local Pioneer Elite dealer who advised me to look into a new receiver, but that seems costly. I feel like I should be able to make this work with the HDMI cable to the TV and Optical cable to the receiver...

I just hooked up the optical S570 to the Yamaha. Using Godzilla DVD as a test, it sent out DD5.1 with no problems. Cables from the Monoprice or Blue Jeans links on the top of every page are REALLY great buys. I haven't figured out the ferrite core stuff though, unless there is some FCC cop next door. There are a lot of cost effective receivers on eBay. I would switch to coax if possible since you can't hurt the cable without a lot of effort.

Does anyone else get a white snow screen? I get one when I select a movie menu item and it loads it. While the menu item is loading the white snow screen appears, I then hear the segment, then see it. About a 5 sec lag with the load.

Bo

I was wondering what the DTSNeo option does in the sound settings. I turned it on and set it to cinema instead of music, thinking it would enhance the audio over HDMI to the TV speakers. The manual doesn't say anything about this particular option. I was wondering if someone here could comment.

Thanks

DTS Neo:6 is a surround sound decoding format that functions in a similar fashion to Dolby Prologic II and IIx, in that, with receivers and preamps that have DTS Neo:6 decoders, it will extract a 6.1 channel surround field from existing analog two-channel material, such as a stereo CD, vinyl record, stereo movie soundtrack or TV broadcast.

With that being said, unless your TV has the capability to handle 6.1 channel surround I doubt it will do much to "enhance" your TV speakers (especially if your TV is only 2 channel stereo). It is meant to send the information to a receiver (AVR) or pre-amp that will handle the signal properly, not directly to a TV.

Thanks for the feedback, I wasn't sure if it would or not, both tvs can simulate surround via two speakers. It sounds like dts neo actually needs a receiver though that can handle it.

I just bought a BDP-S570 to replace my ailing S350 and I love the super fast load times. I think it loads almost as fast as DVD players used to. The one thing that aggravates me is the ugly stickers that Sony puts on the face of the player. They don't want to come off easily.

Well, I finally got everything to work, but I had to sacrifice a little.

I tried the coaxial cable to the receiver and HDMI to the TV. I was able to get digital surround when watching Netflix, but got no sound with DVDs or Blu Rays. I tried resetting the settings, updating firmware, etc. with no luck.

I finally set the video output to 1080i instead of 1080p and my receiver is now able to handle the HDMI switching and I have the sound I was looking for. Hopefully I won't miss the extra video resolution...

I'm curious as to why those of you with older avrs chose the sony over say something like the panasonic 85 or even an oppo, both have 7.1 analog outputs which most older receivers have I hear. I've also heard people having a player with analog outs has less compatibility issues as well when it comes to surround.

I don't have an avr that takes anything except stereo (red/white) the surround decoders are built in internally to the internal DVD changer.

7 year old panasonic theater in a box unit.

In my case, it was an impulse purchase without much research. My PS3 died the night before in the middle of a movie we had just bought, so I was in a rush and I had a credit on my Sony VISA that I could use to cover the cost of a new Sony player. I never would have thought it would have been such a headache.

That's the frustrating thing about technology. Especially computer and other electronic devices (such as home theater gear) The new stuff plays nice together in most cases. Then you have the issue of backward compatibility. That can be a living nightmare, even for someone season in home theater and computer,s even having a degree in broadcast. I still run into things that I can't figure out on my own sometimes. In my cast I've done impulse buying but researched buys too. Generally I don't regret either one. I have researched AVRs though somewhat and have come to the conclusion with today's digital cinema HDMI is ultimately the best solution for both audio and video. That's why I haven't rushed into a new AVR and speakers. Stereo works fine especially in a small apt close to other people. When I'm well suited in a Good Job and a nicer/bigger place to live, then I'll invest more in a theater for the home

Magic: use WD-40 to remove stickers or any reside left by them. It won't harm (virtually) anything. Apply to a rag or paper towel, not the surface since it's hard to control the spray. Glue goo from anything can be removed.

For non-plastic goo, try acetone. It is just nail polish remover without the scent. It is very flammable and will eat some surfaces.

This might sound wierd, but my choice was determined because of the networking ability. I had an S360 and a 5.1 JVC receiver without HDMI. I watch perhaps one DVD a month. I do play CDs a lot, since I time shift 90% of my TV viewing. I now have a Yamaha RX-V867 and a Sony 32EX700. My 'theater' or living space is only 12x14, so power is not an issue. The S570 does (to me) sound better. I don't make a lot of noise even though I could. The internet connection for audio with the S570 is great, and I'm waiting to see what Sony will supply with 'Music Unlimited'. There is also a free (and not free) network audio ability with the Yamaha. And the TV is a duplicate (internet feature wise) to the S570. All devices work with Windows 7 media center. I love it.

I know chasing technology can be expensive. I heading into retirement so I want the best before I get to a point where I can't afford it.

I can't determine 1080p from 1080i since I'm old and my eyes aren't what they used to be. On the bright side you now have a lot of time to research newer A/V receivers. Take your time and follow threads on this forum for a while. Personally, I feel the sound is 50% of the viewing experience. Or more.

Yeah I can relate to that, Picking a blu-ray blu-ay with netflix support has been one of my most frustrating things I've had to do in many years, when it comes to a technology purchase.

For example, I had purchased panasonic 601k last year I would have been very content to settle for it as my only bd player, however it didn't get the netflix update the 2010 models did. So i purchased a sony S570 back in May, and once they 3d update was installed it developed some annoying bugs. Then I exchanged it and Got the panasonic 65k Nice player but after reading a review on the 85k decided to go with that one instead as it had specific video capabilities for upscaling standard DVDs which I have more of then blu-ray. I don't have a receiver that would bennifit the analog outs for 7.1 but everything else on the Player I've got my money's worth on. After I had gotten cellulitis in my left leg at the end of last month I decided to try the sony again as a secondary player for the bedroom as i wanted netflix so i wouldn't have to stress my infected leg going back and froth. So far i'm satisfied with the sony this time around. I still have some little glitches but with the 85k as my main player in the living room. They're easier to live with now and sony has fixed a few of them so i don't doubt the rest will get fixed in time as well.

Bottom Line a lot of good choices for blu-ray players but sometimes nothing seems to have that perfect fit compared to a tube tv and dvd player.

No one is experiencing the video lag and snow screen that I asked about above?

Bo

I'm not... everything is nice and clean.

Have you ruled out the common possibilities ? bad hdmi cable, loose connection, defective player? and possibly something going on with the tv's input? snowy video sounds like a defect.

I have a Yamaha DVD-1800 that I use currently to play SACD's. It's one drawback is that it can only output two-channels when using an HDMI cable.

Is this also true with the Sony S570?

The second most important reason for my purchase of the S570 was the ability to play SACD. It does require a receiver that can accept the signal. My Yamaha RX-V867 does allow DSD and the display on my TV when playing a SACD displays DSD. In Setup: DSD output mode must be ON, in Audio Setup, SACD layer must be on, and SACD playback channel must be DSD Multi (it allows 2ch).

Or at least that's how mine works. There could be other ways. If you set it up that way and get no sound, see if someone on the Yamaha thread can help. There are more SACD recordings being released all the time. The following work well as a test: The Moody Blues: Seventh Sojourn, Eric Clapton: Slowhand, The Zombies Greatest Hits. All are hybrid. The Stones: Hot Rocks - not 5.1 only 2ch.

I absolutely know it can't. From page 37 of the Yamaha DVD-S1800 manual:
"SA-CD signals cannot be output using HDMI."

So I would like to confirm, the Sony S570 can output full multi-channel SA-CD via HDMI. Correct?

I tried the sony on the panasonic TV today just to see how it looked, and I noticed when I'd turn off the sony player the panasonic displays a message saying an error has occurred and has been recovered. This doesn't happen with the sony connected to the sony tv, nor with the panasonic connected to the panasonic tv. Does anyone know if the sony s570 has HDMI bugs that send bad signals to the TV? this is what it appears to me. And it depends on the tv how it responds it seems.

Yes it can. I have the 570 output SACD as LPCM as my processor will not process the DSD stream but it works great for me. Most receivers should be able to take a multichannel LPCM stream.

Having upgraded from an older receiver, I can state that SACD multi channel does come out only via HDMI. The coax or optical outputs are 2ch only. Such is the spec. When I tried to send the multichannel audio out via HDMI to my TV, there was no sound since the TV only supports DD5.1. I can send the TV DD5.1 on HDMI and it will pass it out the TV's optical port. Or simply stated:

Works for me. Also, as stated above. I set LPCM 'on' and it still works via HDMI. Two positive answers.

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i have the sony 770 and when i play sacd's from it i have a pause and skipping problem with the disks.its set on dsd and multi and my onkyo 1008 does dsd.any ideals why this problem?

bad hdmi cable
bad sacd
bad unit

Test one at a time.

well ive tried several sacd so thats not it plays blu rays fine will try cable next

There is a fourth possibility, buggy firmware. It could be a bug with the unit's firmware concerning SACD. It may be the type of bug that only certain circumstances trigger it as well, meaning not everyone might be able to reproduce it easily, or at all. I would say if blu-rays play fine, it's not likely the cable but go ahead and test it. and if everything else works it may not be a bad unit either.

I don't currently own any SACDs or I'd test one in my unit with the latest firmware. I would think an sacd would play through the tv speakers ok.

If your TV supports DSD or LPCM input through HDMI, your TV speakers will operate with an SACD. My EX700 doesn't and while the S570 doesn't stop me from trying, it makes no sound. No problem with the coax or optical outputs but they are 2ch only with no surround decoding.

I hadn't thought of a buggy unit. But who would do that? (ok, who wouldn't?)