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post #1651 of 3887
Got this Player today and updated it to the latest firmware.

Netflix works great no stuttering here, I watched District 9 with out problem.

I am a bit sad that you cannot search tittles through the netflix interface, but oh well, Just have to go on the computer and put them in my list so it shows up.

I tried DLNA, It worked well for the first video I played. Though for some reason next time I tried it it could not find my computer, I need to play with some settings.

Now its time for a blue-ray movie to watch
post #1652 of 3887
Looking for some comments on the Sony BDP-S570. Looking for a player as gifts for a couple of family members and other than DVD/Blu-ray playback I need it to do Netflix streaming. Built-in WiFi is a big plus as well. My question is, are these players reliable and easy to use? The two family members are not A/V enthusiasts by any means and are not familiar with how things work, just that they do. I'm specifically interested in the WiFi aspect of these players, is it reliable? Is it something I'm going to get a phone call on every other week? Or is it set it and forget it?

Thanks

P.S. This player is apparently 3D capable although that's not something that matters to me, if there is another model that might be less expensive without that feature I'm certainly interested in hearing about it.
post #1653 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Looking for some comments on the Sony BDP-S570. Looking for a player as gifts for a couple of family members and other than DVD/Blu-ray playback I need it to do Netflix streaming. Built-in WiFi is a big plus as well. My question is, are these players reliable and easy to use? The two family members are not A/V enthusiasts by any means and are not familiar with how things work, just that they do. I'm specifically interested in the WiFi aspect of these players, is it reliable? Is it something I'm going to get a phone call on every other week? Or is it set it and forget it?

Thanks

P.S. This player is apparently 3D capable although that's not something that matters to me, if there is another model that might be less expensive without that feature I'm certainly interested in hearing about it.

I gave my 75 year old Mother a 570 for Mother's Day this year. She already had Comcast HSI as part of her Triple Play package. I also added an old Linksys 610N router I had. She already had a Netflix account, but had never used Watch Instantly before. Setting up the router and the Netflix app on the 570 was a breeze. I was a bit concerned that the router was in an upstairs bedroom and the 570 was downstairs in the living room, but signal strength and range have not been an issue. There have been zero problems and I haven't gotten a single call for help since the original install. All in all, it has worked out much better than I could have hoped.

The only possible drawback I can find with 570 is that you still a PC or other device to manage your Netflix WI queue. I know the Roku and a handful of other devices are able to manage the queue directly, but I haven't heard anything about Sony's plans to add this feature. Other than that one caveat, the 570 is pretty much idiot proof.

If you can get by without the built in N adapter, the 470 is virtually identical to the 570 except that it only accepts a wired connection. Personally, I am still using last year's 460 model without the wireless, and it makes an excellent Blu Ray/Netflix box if you have a wired connection available. Sony also just went live with their Hulu Plus app, but I haven't gotten around to testing it out yet.

If you are looking to buy this weekend, I noticed that Dell is having a nice little sale on all of their Sony Blu Ray players.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/c...42167~0~493985
post #1654 of 3887
For Mac OS devices, use Twonkey or Eyeconnect. Your Mac of course has to be connected to the same network as the Sony BR player.

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Originally Posted by wxjunkie View Post

I've seen several hints at this in this thread, but can anyone recommend software or settings to stream video files from my Mac running OS X Snow Leopard to my Sony BDP-S570 via WiFi?
post #1655 of 3887
I hope everyone realizes the Netflix UI shortcomings are a function of the Bravia Internet service and not the BR player. This is the same on every Sony BR player, TV, Dash player that is connected to Bravia Internet apps. The PS3 doesn't have access to the Bravia Internet Apps, so Netflix and Sony developed it's own application, which is one of the best and rivals or is superior to Roku, Xbox360, Boxee and TiVo.

Also realize that these Netflix UI shortcomings are the same as experienced in Samsung, LG, and Pani BR players, with their respective Internet app.

In response to the poster questioning this player, it is a great player with a ton of features. The wireless receiver is average and doesn't work great unless you have a decent signal strength. Its always advised to connect hard wire for the streaming experience, but if not possible, then use a N connection. The two other things that are drawbacks of this player is the finicky DNLA and the lack of HDMI1.4 spec. The later may not be as important to many, but the DNLA works most of the time, but can sometimes not play supported codecs or not render JPEGs normally.

Beyond that the PQ is wonderful, Amount of Internet apps is amongst the best, cost is reasonable, and FIrmware fixes are more common than most.






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Originally Posted by LongRufus View Post


I gave my 75 year old Mother a 570 for Mother's Day this year. She already had Comcast HSI as part of her Triple Play package. I also added an old Linksys 610N router I had. She already had a Netflix account, but had never used Watch Instantly before. Setting up the router and the Netflix app on the 570 was a breeze. I was a bit concerned that the router was in an upstairs bedroom and the 570 was downstairs in the living room, but signal strength and range have not been an issue. There have been zero problems and I haven't gotten a single call for help since the original install. All in all, it has worked out much better than I could have hoped.

The only possible drawback I can find with 570 is that you still a PC or other device to manage your Netflix WI queue. I know the Roku and a handful of other devices are able to manage the queue directly, but I haven't heard anything about Sony's plans to add this feature. Other than that one caveat, the 570 is pretty much idiot proof.

If you can get by without the built in N adapter, the 470 is virtually identical to the 570 except that it only accepts a wired connection. Personally, I am still using last year's 460 model without the wireless, and it makes an excellent Blu Ray/Netflix box if you have a wired connection available. Sony also just went live with their Hulu Plus app, but I haven't gotten around to testing it out yet.

If you are looking to buy this weekend, I noticed that Dell is having a nice little sale on all of their Sony Blu Ray players.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/c...42167~0~493985
post #1656 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

OK, well isedora is a DLNA server for Mac OS X. It's not free, but for a mac user it's one of the best. A single license is only $25. The reason i was asking is by default isedora uses your music folder in your home folder as the default place to find music. If itunes was putting things outside that folder then you'd have to add the folder it was in so the server would share it. Since this is not the case I'm not sure of the situation for sure. You can try isedora for free it runs for an hour at a time until you register. check out www.isedora.com for details.

BTW. isedora is the only dlna server i've found that lets you stream videos in terms of mac servers. The videos must either be vobs or NTSC mpeg2 to work with the player. Another word of caution is I've found that if you can hardwire your player do so. Wireless and dlna can be very unhappy depending your setup, software and hardware combinations.

Thanks for this writeup. My BDP-S570 is on the way and I've downloaded iSedora for my Mac.

Will it transcode on-the-fly, for files I have (like .AVI, .WMV, .MP4, .M4V, etc.) so that they can stream to the Sony?
post #1657 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by LongRufus View Post

I gave my 75 year old Mother a 570 for Mother's Day this year. She already had Comcast HSI as part of her Triple Play package. I also added an old Linksys 610N router I had. She already had a Netflix account, but had never used Watch Instantly before. Setting up the router and the Netflix app on the 570 was a breeze. I was a bit concerned that the router was in an upstairs bedroom and the 570 was downstairs in the living room, but signal strength and range have not been an issue. There have been zero problems and I haven't gotten a single call for help since the original install. All in all, it has worked out much better than I could have hoped.

The only possible drawback I can find with 570 is that you still a PC or other device to manage your Netflix WI queue. I know the Roku and a handful of other devices are able to manage the queue directly, but I haven't heard anything about Sony's plans to add this feature. Other than that one caveat, the 570 is pretty much idiot proof.

If you can get by without the built in N adapter, the 470 is virtually identical to the 570 except that it only accepts a wired connection. Personally, I am still using last year's 460 model without the wireless, and it makes an excellent Blu Ray/Netflix box if you have a wired connection available. Sony also just went live with their Hulu Plus app, but I haven't gotten around to testing it out yet.

If you are looking to buy this weekend, I noticed that Dell is having a nice little sale on all of their Sony Blu Ray players.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/c...42167~0~493985

Thanks for the response, just what I was looking for. My 76 yr old mother is already Internet-savvy having used a MacBook for around 6 years now so setting up a WI queue in Netflix is not an issue for her, she already has a Netflix account. It's actually my 53 yr old brother I'm concerned about, he having almost zero clue on AV equipment!

I realize this is a Sony thread, but any pros/cons when compared to the Samsung BD-C6500?
post #1658 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Thanks for the response, just what I was looking for. My 76 yr old mother is already Internet-savvy having used a MacBook for around 6 years now so setting up a WI queue in Netflix is not an issue for her, she already has a Netflix account. It's actually my 53 yr old brother I'm concerned about, he having almost zero clue on AV equipment!

I realize this is a Sony thread, but any pros/cons when compared to the Samsung BD-C6500?

No idea on the Samsung, I've only used Sony myself.

The other Blu Ray player I was talking about in my OP was the LG BD570. I had heard it had a stand alone Netflix app, but never verified it. From this Amazon review, it appears that it is able to manage the WI queue directly from the player:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-...R1C22I8ELKMZ0L
post #1659 of 3887
i currently own just a ps3 slim and love it, but hate how loud it is I was wondering what the consensus is of the bdp-s570? I am looking at it in terms of loudness during playback. I am also curious as to whether the wi-fi issues have been resolved as I will use it occasionally for netflix and how the pq was during blu ray and 3d blu ray playback? thanks in advance
post #1660 of 3887
I bought one today and everything is working except for the audio when I try to stream things. In other words, I get sound when I play a blu-ray disc, but not for netflix, pandora, youtube, etc. So I know that the player is producing sound.

Any idea what might be causing this bug? It's getting frustrating and tech support isn't much help.

Thank you!
post #1661 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by tarq476 View Post

I bought one today and everything is working except for the audio when I try to stream things. In other words, I get sound when I play a blu-ray disc, but not for netflix, pandora, youtube, etc. So I know that the player is producing sound.

Any idea what might be causing this bug? It's getting frustrating and tech support isn't much help.

Thank you!

The reported fix for this was to turn off hdmi deep color in screen settings. It's a known bug in the firmware. Someone earlier in the thread posted it as a fix from Sony tech support. Personally I don't have the bug, but for those who have it, it's a known work around.

Hope this helps!
post #1662 of 3887
Hey guys I just picked up a 570 second hand, and it seems to already be registered. I can't link it to my amazon account because it won't give me a code. I did a factory reset but it still says it's "already registered".

Is there a way I can re-register it under my own information?

thanks.
post #1663 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by nguyendot View Post

Hey guys I just picked up a 570 second hand, and it seems to already be registered. I can't link it to my amazon account because it won't give me a code. I did a factory reset but it still says it's "already registered".

Is there a way I can re-register it under my own information?

thanks.

Call sony and ask.
post #1664 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post

The reported fix for this was to turn off hdmi deep color in screen settings. It's a known bug in the firmware. Someone earlier in the thread posted it as a fix from Sony tech support. Personally I don't have the bug, but for those who have it, it's a known work around.

Hope this helps!


Thanks a lot, this worked like a charm. Quite a weird bug which definitely isn't obvious, hopefully they'll fix that with an update soon.
post #1665 of 3887
Hello all, have not been around for awhile!
I started searching through this thread for an answer but there are too many threads here. And most are old.

Picked up my S570 yesterday at Bestbuy for $159 (already did the firmware upgrade). I know I could have found it cheaper on line but for a few dollars difference it's not worth paying the postage back online especially if it's finicky or I want another brand or model.

I have it hooked up to a 65 inch Sony projection 1080i HD tv so I don't need Bluray or 3D right now. I bought the S570 mainly for the unlimited Netflix streaming for $7.99 a month. Just called Time Warner and knocked off $36 a month off my bill by cxl several pay stations. Can't wait for this TV to break so I can replace it with a 1080p 65 flat screen. I have several other large Sammy and Panny flat screens, but none are 1080P.

Using components for video and digital coax for sound, since I'm already using HDMI for the cable box to the TV.

So hookup was simple and wifi works great. No tiling or freezing from Netflix through a recently bought Neatgear wireless N router WNR355 (these a pretty cheap now).

So all in all every thing's running pretty flawless (especially nice to not have to run another Ethernet cable). Worth it for the extra $59 over the $99 330 model.

The only issue I'm having is I use the Ideal DVD copy program and it's great for the 5.1 digital sound. I used to use my Sony RDR-GX7 DVD player/burner but that does not transfer the digital sound only analog, so I now use Ideal DVD copy but when I try and play "some" of them they won't read in the S570 player?

The instructions say DVD+ RW and DVD- RW can be used and I have probably 100 Sony or Memorex RW+'s in my collection that I just reuse and write over. But they are only 4x speed and at the time they were bought for the Sony RDR-GX7.

Since some play and some don't . . . do you think it's the media, a setting in the S570 or is it a setting in the Ideal DVD recording process or should I just go and buy some 8x newer RW media? If I buy new disks, which ones should I get brand wise and should I get

The S570 is a great player at a great price. The only thing of course that will make it better is when Netflix finally starts streaming the 5.1 audio.

Thx for any help with my media question or pointing me to another thread or site that might address this media playback issue.
post #1666 of 3887
I bought at costco and I used the great return policy to bring it back and try the Samsung C6800. I liked the internet aps on the samsung; it is supposed to support more file types (divx, etc) and it's NTFS compatible (not just FAT-32); however
a) it looked built flimsily
b) it didn't bookmark dvds/BR discs - which is annoying.
c) most importantly while it was fine with my Sony LCD, it didn't play nicely with my Vizio plasma; when connected via HDMI it was very jumpy.

I brought it back and I'm back to the Sony BX57 (Costco version of 570).
I wish it had the NTFS, and native divx, but as a player It was nicer.
post #1667 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Thanks for the response, just what I was looking for. My 76 yr old mother is already Internet-savvy having used a MacBook for around 6 years now so setting up a WI queue in Netflix is not an issue for her, she already has a Netflix account. It's actually my 53 yr old brother I'm concerned about, he having almost zero clue on AV equipment!

I realize this is a Sony thread, but any pros/cons when compared to the Samsung BD-C6500?

I owned the Samsung 6500T for about 2 months and finally gave up on it. While it allowed me to have access to Netflix in Canada, there were a myriad of issues that I encountered with it: freezing with new blu-ray discs, lack of ability to connect to the internet - even with a new N router, etc etc. There is a huge thread for 6500 owners on this forum that you can review for a variety of opinions - mostly bad. However, as they say "Those that are happy don't post!"

I am happy with the Sony 570 but disappointed that they have not updated to include Netflix here in Canada yet. Hope this helps.
post #1668 of 3887
Another question. I originally set it up wireless and it was working fine. But since my router is on the first floor and I had an extra 50 foot Ethernet cable and there were already holes in the floor to the basement behind the tv and near the router, so it only took me 15 minutes to hook it up by wired.

I reset the unit back to default settings, but when I check the network status it's showing 50% so it still seems to me to be still connected. I thought being wired now, it would over ride the wireless connection?

My question is: since I started out using it wirelessly, do I now have to turn off the wireless connection somehow in the S570 to use the faster wired speed?

Update: I think it finally dropped the wireless connection when I set it back to the default settings and rebooted the unit. I did have to use a coupler to connect two 25 ft ethernet cables. I was wondering if that coupler would cause a slower streaming speed. Is there any screen on the S570 to check your wired speed?


Thx
post #1669 of 3887
Followed the instructions in post #695 as to setting up media sharing.

So my computer shows up on the Photo screen on the S570 and I can show my picture folders. But instead of seeing a thumbnail pic it shows an icon of a faint blue camera. When I press enter to open the pic a rotating circle starts in the top right corner of the screen and after 30 seconds a pic of a torn in half page icon shows in the middle of the screen.

How can I get this far and still not be able to view any .jpg's of my pics stored on the computer

Note: I have already installed the latest firmware update

I also have Vista and saw no choice for sharing media streaming. I only have media sharing which I turned on.

Update: Oh well, no responses but I finally figured it out myself anyway.
For others that run into the same issue here are the steps I did to use the DNLA feature for pics or music stored on my PC and can now view them on my TV through the S570.

Make sure you first do the most recent firmware update (some of the older versions did not have DNLA support).

Go into your PC's control panel> click on network sharing and turn on media sharing.

Then do this setup on your S570's screen: http://www.kb.sony.com/selfservice/d...S570&sliceId=1

Make sure you have a recent Windows Media Player version (mine was already version 11).

My original hang up was I did everything right and could see the Windows media Icon under on my S570's home page under photos and could see each pic folder, but the photo's would not open for viewing. Sony customer support was useless. I wasted 45 minutes on the phone only for him to tell me to re-boot each device and finally he said my photo files were corrupted. What a jerk. I asked for the next level support person and he was the one who emailed me the link above (but I already got that far so he was useless too. I still had the same problem, pics would not open.

The fix is to go into Windows Media Player and click tools>options>library . . . (Windows Media Player "also" needs permission to share your files) you do this by clicking on the "configure sharing button" and then check off the box at the top that says "share my media".

I tried to view a photo back on the TV again and they magically opened this time. Pretty cool to sit on your couch and view auto slide shows on my 65 inch TV over the home network even though the PC is in the kitchen. Also plays my music files too that are stored on my PC.

Note: Don't forget to leave your PC on to view pics through the S570. If it's asleep, the windows media player icon on your S570 home screen will be grayed out. Just wake it up and the icon will be in color again.
post #1670 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lupismaximus View Post

In response to the poster questioning this player, it is a great player with a ton of features. The wireless receiver is average and doesn't work great unless you have a decent signal strength. Its always advised to connect hard wire for the streaming experience, but if not possible, then use a N connection.

I wonder if you might clarify using the N connection. I have a D-Link DIR-655 N router and have been using the S570 BR player with it for months. Netflix connectivity is spotty. Some nights it will be great; other nights I'll have frequent starts and stops to the point we have to shut it off (the router is just a few feet away).

The question is...does it automatically use the N connection of the router? Or do I need to set it up differently in order for the S570 to use the N as opposed to the G connection? I just connected it to the router by inputting my password. Would it automatically use the best connection?
post #1671 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by medspeaking View Post

I wonder if you might clarify using the N connection. I have a D-Link DIR-655 N router and have been using the S570 BR player with it for months. Netflix connectivity is spotty. Some nights it will be great; other nights I'll have frequent starts and stops to the point we have to shut it off (the router is just a few feet away).

The question is...does it automatically use the N connection of the router? Or do I need to set it up differently in order for the S570 to use the N as opposed to the G connection? I just connected it to the router by inputting my password. Would it automatically use the best connection?

I'm not a D-Link professional, but I have the 655. My configuration is for 11n or 11g only. The S570 and my TV (EX700) both send 11n. The BR is at 55mbs and the TV is at 130mbs. Both are at 100%. I have the system set as follows:

40mhz width
channel 3 (sec channel 7)
WISH active
WPA/WPA2 (personal)

I can't test streaming video yet since my DSL line is too slow. I would like the best performance, so any suggestions are welcome. As for wired, I might give it a shot, but I can't see what improvement I could expect.
post #1672 of 3887
Does this player have a 1.3 or 1.4 hdmi??? I know that 3d can be compatible with 1.3 but I want 1.4 for 4k purposes. Thanks
post #1673 of 3887
Bought it on Wednesday @ Costco (BX57)

So far:
1) Solid on Netflix...

3) on DLNA, I tried to stream iTunes and Avi files using Windows Media Player, Nero Media Server and iSedora...this is on an XP machine as a server.

iSedora did the trick. All files format I tried worked fine and you can try it for free. Make sure you setup the player in iSedora as NTSC

I think I'm going to keep this player
post #1674 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJMiami View Post

Bought it on Wednesday @ Costco (BX57)

So far:
1) Solid on Netflix...

3) on DLNA, I tried to stream iTunes and Avi files using Windows Media Player, Nero Media Server and iSedora...this is on an XP machine as a server.

iSedora did the trick. All files format I tried worked fine and you can try it for free. Make sure you setup the player in iSedora as NTSC

I think I'm going to keep this player

Hey, thank you so much for your post. You just saved me a lot of work.

I have isedora for mac, and I was only able to stream mpeg 2 video. I totally over looked the ntsc/pal setting. Well mine was on pal, by default, when I changed it, all my videos now show up. Now I no longer have to convert every video I want to stream.

Thanks again!
post #1675 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by medspeaking View Post

I wonder if you might clarify using the N connection. I have a D-Link DIR-655 N router and have been using the S570 BR player with it for months. Netflix connectivity is spotty. Some nights it will be great; other nights I'll have frequent starts and stops to the point we have to shut it off (the router is just a few feet away).

The question is...does it automatically use the N connection of the router? Or do I need to set it up differently in order for the S570 to use the N as opposed to the G connection? I just connected it to the router by inputting my password. Would it automatically use the best connection?


Yes it should automatically be using N. You can always log into your router's page and check what its using.

I have a N router and I have had no issues with netflix. I only tried playing District 9 though. I shall test this some more.

You also should see if your torrenting or any other bandwidth hogging app is running on your network. Netflix needs 4-6Mbps steady to stream uninterupted. Just becuse the link speed of your router and blu-ray player is 55mbps+ does not mean your internet is that fast. I get 12 steady no problem. I have ran two streams at the same time(Xbox/PC) with no issues.

www.speedtest.net is good to see what your burst speed can hit, I can do 30mbps on my network on this test. www.Testmy.net gives a much better steady streaming speed. try them out.
post #1676 of 3887
Ok, guys, here is some useful information concerning wifi, DLNA and Mac users I discovered today. According to a poster earlier today I learned something very useful about iSedora that I had miss configured, that was both limiting what media I could play and also causing dlna to crash over wireless.

First of All iSedora provides support for both NTSC, and PAL formats. By default the server defaults to PAL for video. Well I didn't realize this and Playing a video to the s570 over wifi crashed the player and, only videos in vob/mpg would show up and play. After I fixed this setting I can play every file on my computer now except DRM'd content. So those who use macs, or windows looking for a reliable dlna server I strongly recommend this. Also since I fixed this configuration mistake I had made, No more wifi crashes when using DLNA, to stream video. I can also confirm that DVDs ripped to the HD with Handbrake work just fine as well. I've tried a couple.

Hope this helps someone.
post #1677 of 3887
Is isedora free?
post #1678 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoro View Post

Is isedora free?

It's free to try, but it's not really expensive for a single license. $25 for one device to stream from. I can tell you, if you want complete DLNA support for the mac, probably windows as well unless windows 7 (maybe) then you'll probably expect to pay a bit. Anyway I wanted to add, wifi is still a bit glitchy, but it's better then it was, so i'm switching back to wired.
post #1679 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacinMan View Post


It's free to try, but it's not really expensive for a single license. $25 for one device to stream from. I can tell you, if you want complete DLNA support for the mac, probably windows as well unless windows 7 (maybe) then you'll probably expect to pay a bit. Anyway I wanted to add, wifi is still a bit glitchy, but it's better then it was, so i'm switching back to wired.

I use windows and use ps3 media server though!
post #1680 of 3887
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoro View Post

I use windows and use ps3 media server though!

I tried PS3 Media server for the mac, when DLNA was first enabled on the player, and The player wasn't able to see the server. Maybe I didn't have it configured correctly.

I just tried it again, and now the player sees it, but my mp4 and other h.264 files aren't playable via ps3 server do you get them to work for you ? or do you not use h.264 files.
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