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post #301 of 3892
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

The Sony 470 and 570 will be 3D certified soon (July ?) and can output 480i through HDMI. I tested.

Interesting and I have read your thread from the start BTW.

My thoughts, my LG BD390 does DLNA and reads NTFS formatted USB HDD and Flash drives now. It also has Vudu and streams HDX quality video, far superior to Neflix or even Amazon (hardwired 1GB network) without a hiccup and has not given me any problems.

My Panasonic BD655 (AKA BD65) has the best SD DVD up conversion short of the Oppo 83 that I have seen but that is on an LG 55LH90 well calibrated TV at 1080/p24. Users would not likely see deficiencies in SD conversion on anything smaller.

Winston's complaint of 'flashing' on SD DVD with the BD655 has never appeared on the dozen or so SD discs I have tested.

Not knocking the Sony players but there are choices for people.
post #302 of 3892
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Originally Posted by catmother View Post

Interesting and I have read your thread from the start BTW.

My thoughts, my LG BD390 does DLNA and reads NTFS formatted USB HDD and Flash drives now. It also has Vudu and streams HDX quality video, far superior to Neflix or even Amazon (hardwired 1GB network) without a hiccup and has not given me any problems.

My Panasonic BD655 (AKA BD65) has the best SD DVD up conversion short of the Oppo 83 that I have seen but that is on an LG 55LH90 well calibrated TV at 1080/p24. Users would not likely see deficiencies in SD conversion on anything smaller.

Winston's complaint of 'flashing' on SD DVD with the BD655 has never appeared on the dozen or so SD discs I have tested.

Not knocking the Sony players but there are choices for people.


If DLNA is important , stay with the LG. I doubt very much Sony will go beyond the plain vanilla, WMP with MPEG2 and perhaps MKV. I had few BD players, from Panasonic,Samsung and Sony and what I like with the Sonys is the fact that they play almost every disk without a flaw. I got tired to babysit other players where in every few disks I had one that required "special treatment" like the BD30 and BD60 from Panasonic.
post #303 of 3892
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Originally Posted by catmother View Post

My Panasonic BD655 (AKA BD65) has the best SD DVD up conversion short of the Oppo 83 that I have seen but that is on an LG 55LH90 well calibrated TV at 1080/p24. Users would not likely see deficiencies in SD conversion on anything smaller.

Not sure how you've done your testing, or if its just a subjective observation. I have both the Panny BD655 and the Sony 570 at the moment. I was much more impressed with the Sony's upconversion than the Panny's. Tested (subjectively) on a Lord of the Rings standard DVD with the players set to upconvert to 1080p (to my Samsung 55" LED 7100 series TV).

There was no comparison for me, felt like the Panny was very soft and the Sony almost felt like a Blu Ray disk was being played. I'm about to return the Panny to Costco and I will be keeping the Sony.
post #304 of 3892
Hello,

I had a question on 1080p Upscaling/Audio decoding. I have an Onkyo TX-SR605 A/V receiver, I'm planning to buy Sony BDS-S570 Blu-Ray player. I'm using HDMI cables to connect my Cable box to receiver and output of receiver to TV. If I connect Sony which includes 1080p Upscaling and better Audio quality. Does connecting Blu-ray to receiver using HDMI and from receiver to TV will I loose the quality and new features that the new Sony Blu-ray provides, rather will I use all features.

Thanks
post #305 of 3892
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Originally Posted by MVPinBoynton View Post

The Costco price is $229

I bought my unit for $219.99 at Costco. Orlando, FL
post #306 of 3892
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

The Sony 470 and 570 will be 3D certified soon (July ?) and can output 480i through HDMI. I tested.

It will output your dvds AND blu-rays at lovely 480i resolution. At least that's what my 560 does. Where has the source direct mode of the old players gone?
post #307 of 3892
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Originally Posted by masker7 View Post

So I recently bought this blu-ray player, and I just had my 6020fd delivered on Wednesday. I immediately hooked them up and started to watch Avatar and the picture is amazing. Calibrator came last night, and made the TV even better.

that being said, I did come across one issue. If the TV is set to the blu-ray HDMI input and I power on the blu-ray, everything is fine. If the TV is set to a different input, and I power on the blu-ray, when the blu-ray is done booting up and says "Home" on its display, the screen on the TV goes blank. The remote also becomes inoperable, like the TV is frozen. The only thing I can do is unplug and then plug it back in and then everything works fine.

While I have a workaround (put the TV to the blu-ray input before powering it on) I am wondering if this is an issue with the blu-ray or the TV.

Anyone else notice this?

I'd say it's to do with the TV or some minor issue between the TV and BD. My player is connected through my receiver. I can turn on my BD player, receiver, and projector in any sequence with any input selected and swith inputs and never have a problem. Perhaps my receiver (Pioneer Elite VSX-23TXH) handles HDMI a little more reliably. FWIW, I've never had any HDMI issues whatsoever with this receiver, the BD player, and my Epson projector.
post #308 of 3892
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Originally Posted by LGX View Post

Hello,

I had a question on 1080p Upscaling/Audio decoding. I have an Onkyo TX-SR605 A/V receiver, I'm planning to buy Sony BDS-S570 Blu-Ray player. I'm using HDMI cables to connect my Cable box to receiver and output of receiver to TV. If I connect Sony which includes 1080p Upscaling and better Audio quality. Does connecting Blu-ray to receiver using HDMI and from receiver to TV will I loose the quality and new features that the new Sony Blu-ray provides, rather will I use all features.

Thanks

No you will not lose anything. The HDMI in the receiver is just a pass-through.
post #309 of 3892
Was comparing the LG BD570 and Sony BDP-S570 at BrandsMart USA. Each was $238.00, so price was not an issue for comparison. Trying to make a decision between the two, and any help is appreciated.

I am replacing a Samsung BD-P1400 that has compatibility issues despite updated firmware, so compatibility is a prime concern for me. I don't care about 3D right now, and while streaming is nice, it's not a big deal, but having WiFi for updates and the occasional online content is nice for a few extra bucks.

BD and DVD upconvert PQ is my prime concern along with compatibility. Need to know from those who own the Sony whether or not there are any problems with disk compatibility, and if there are any benefits to the Sony that I should consider over the LG.
post #310 of 3892
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Originally Posted by rpr13 View Post

Not sure how you've done your testing, or if its just a subjective observation. I have both the Panny BD655 and the Sony 570 at the moment. I was much more impressed with the Sony's upconversion than the Panny's. Tested (subjectively) on a Lord of the Rings standard DVD with the players set to upconvert to 1080p (to my Samsung 55" LED 7100 series TV).

There was no comparison for me, felt like the Panny was very soft and the Sony almost felt like a Blu Ray disk was being played. I'm about to return the Panny to Costco and I will be keeping the Sony.

I can not compare the BD655 to the Sony since I do not have that player. My comment on upconversion came from Winston's player reviews where he concluded that the Panny was better than the Sony. He has that as the chief reason he gave the Panny a better rating.
post #311 of 3892
Just picked one up at Costco this morning. My thoughts so far:

Speed - my god this thing is fast compared to my Pioneer 51FD! Very, very happy on this front.

BD IQ - seems fine, although I do miss being able to tweak gamma and sharpness in the player.

DVD upscaling - OK, but I think the 51FD is probably better. Setting the 570 to "Original Resolution" and letting my Denon AVR-790 handle the upscaling with its ABT chip is noticeably better to my eyes.

Streaming - works fine, I don't think the Netflix load times are that bad. No problems with Pandora after a firmware update. Wireless setup was easy and throughput seems good with my Apple Airport Extreme (2.4GHz N-only) using WPA2.

UI - the menus and user interface seems pretty nice. Easy to navigate

No strange mechanical noises with mine, and bitstreaming works fine with the Denon (unlike some of the Samsung & LG players).

I tried this because I was tired of having to use the bluetooth Wii remote for Netflix and wanted something faster than the Pioneer. If I didn't have a receiver with good upscaling, I might be disappointed in the DVD playback, but I'm quite pleased overall. Good value at the Costco price.

The best solution would be an Oppo 83 with streaming, but ...
post #312 of 3892
With bdp-s570 can I connect wirelessly to my Sony EX700 and avoid dongle?
post #313 of 3892
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sapukai View Post

With bdp-s570 can I connect wirelessly to my Sony EX700 and avoid dongle?

No,you can't , with or without a dongle. Both the S570 and the EX700 will be "clients" on the network. You need a wireless router and other devices that can be used as a "server". You can access the internet, for example , or a HDD in a PC (available in July in the case of the S570).

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post #314 of 3892
I have an n router for my two computers and therefore assume that would work with the 570 and then on to the ex700 or am I missing some other needed component: comcast cable being used for both tv and internet.
post #315 of 3892
Well, after using my 570 last evening, I will retract my happiness with Netflix - significant stuttering/jerkiness on HD movies (Wii plays them fine). I am on a 20Mb+ connection and even tried wired direct to my router. The problem is in the Netflix client IMHO, not the wireless component.

I would return this except for the incredible speed. I might keep it and hope for a future fix from Sony as I am convinced it is software, not hardware.
post #316 of 3892
I've been having problems with the 570 playing avchd discs that
worked fine in my old sony 300 and even a few blurays i seen pixelation
that i didn't have with my old sony player. I called TheNerds where I
bought and they said they do not take returns and to call Sony.
I understand from Sony there are complaints with the latest firmware
updates (4.73). My player is only 2 1/2 weeks old What would any of you do?
post #317 of 3892
I purchased this player a couple of weeks ago. So far very pleased. I have not had any of the issues mentioned. I had previously owned a Panasonic DMP-BD60. I had purchased that player more than a year ago because it was getting overall good reviews on quality of resolution on BD and upconversion. I was a little hesitant about changing- why mess with something that seems good? Any way I took the plunge mainly to take advantage of all the wireless possibilities.

My observations -

1. The load time smokes the Panny. No comparison here.
2. Wireless internet was very easy. Found my airport extreme right away. Took maybe a couple of minutes. No problem browsing the sites available. I have tried all of them just to see if everything works. I am not a big Netflix fan so I did not use this but the Amazon on Demand worked fine.
3. I have to say that if BD playback was supposed to be top notch on the Panny then I must have been missing something because I feel the Sony is better. Much better color. Watching UP was like watching a new movie again. I thought the improvement was alot.
4. Upconversion is also fine. I see no difference between the Sony and Panny. I rarely watch a regular DVD anymore so this is no big deal anyway.
5. Sound was great. I run everything through a Onyko receiver and the sound reproduced was top notch.

Overall I am very glad I chanced this. Can't wait for the upcoming updates to make this player even better.
post #318 of 3892
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sapukai View Post

I have an n router for my two computers and therefore assume that would work with the 570 and then on to the ex700 or am I missing some other needed component: comcast cable being used for both tv and internet.


You can connect each device (s570 and ex700) to your router but won't have communication between them as you suggested in your first post. Why do you want to link the player and the TV ? You can't send the video signal from the player wirelessly, if that is what you meant. Your first post is not clear on what you want. There is no way to connect the player TO the TV wirelessly.
post #319 of 3892
The reason my question was not clear is that I am confused. I understand having the BR player be able to connect to internet to stream movies etc. but of what use is the internet ready TV. The cost difference is not that great and want to buy the best performing BR player. Any help would be appreciated.
post #320 of 3892
I am not in the market for a new TV right now. I like my current Samsung but I went with this player so I can benefit from the streaming apps. It is the same ones on the new TV's, no reason to have the same Netflix app on both my TV and my BR player. For now spending $240 is better than $2000 and you get the same apps.
post #321 of 3892
Picked up the Costco version of this one the other day, was enjoying the Netflix, then tried a DVD today, the player wouldn't read any disc, blu-ray or dvds, just made loud noises and kept saying loading. Swapped it out today and all seems good. (knock on wood).
post #322 of 3892
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sapukai View Post

The reason my question was not clear is that I am confused. I understand having the BR player be able to connect to internet to stream movies etc. but of what use is the internet ready TV. The cost difference is not that great and want to buy the best performing BR player. Any help would be appreciated.

You are still confused. Internet ready TV means you can access the internet to stream video, for example. The same stuff you can do with the player. You don't need both the TV and the player with internet streaming capability, just buy a player with good streaming reputation (the Sony x70 is one of them).
post #323 of 3892
Hate to ask a dumb and probably obvious question, but is this player moot for me, since my Anthem doesn't have HDMI and the player doesn't have a 7.1 output?
Should I then look at the Pan-85?
post #324 of 3892
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Originally Posted by Maximum7 View Post

Hate to ask a dumb and probably obvious question, but is this player moot for me, since my Anthem doesn't have HDMI and the player doesn't have a 7.1 output?
Should I then look at the Pan-85?

You could use optical/coaxial SPDIF and get DB and DTS core but you would lose DB THD and DTS MA.
post #325 of 3892
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Originally Posted by khollister View Post

Well, after using my 570 last evening, I will retract my happiness with Netflix - significant stuttering/jerkiness on HD movies (Wii plays them fine). I am on a 20Mb+ connection and even tried wired direct to my router. The problem is in the Netflix client IMHO, not the wireless component.

I would return this except for the incredible speed. I might keep it and hope for a future fix from Sony as I am convinced it is software, not hardware.

Have you checked to make sure the unit is not getting too hot? I had the same problem watching Law and Order SVU on Netflix. I realized that it was too hot sitting directly on top of my DVR (which happened to be on and recording during the times I was watching). Since I created some space between the units, I haven't had a single problem watching HD with Netflix with either N wireless or wired.
post #326 of 3892
Does anyone know if the bd5700 support an external HD in ntfs format. In other words, will it play an mkv file bigger than 4gig from an external HD or a usb flash drive.
post #327 of 3892
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Originally Posted by silvereyes View Post

Does anyone know if the bd5700 support an external HD in ntfs format. In other words, will it play an mkv file bigger than 4gig from an external HD or a usb flash drive.

It doesn't support ntfs at the moment and I don't know if it ever will.
However you can burn mkv files ( I burn using nero as UDF 2.50) to
disc and play them on it. One of its more positive features. I have also
used dvd+r dl for large files on mkv as well
post #328 of 3892
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Originally Posted by pappers View Post

Have you checked to make sure the unit is not getting too hot? I had the same problem watching Law and Order SVU on Netflix. I realized that it was too hot sitting directly on top of my DVR (which happened to be on and recording during the times I was watching). Since I created some space between the units, I haven't had a single problem watching HD with Netflix with either N wireless or wired.

It is sitting on a shelf with nothing on top, so I doubt it is heat related. SD Netflix streams are OK (the occassional glitch), but HD streams are pretty bad on movies with substantial motion. I spoke with Netflix today and they were very helpful. they asked me to call back when I am at the system and able to try streaming HD content and they will connect me with a special Watch Instantly help desk that can inspect the backend data stream and look for issues. They seemed to be very interested in helping resolve this.

I emailed Sony and got a "reset the player, it must be you" response - not very responsive.

I am also going to spend the $5 to rent a HD movie from Amazon and see how that works. Either Sony has pranged the Netflix HD client SW or my broadband service has some obscure QoS problem with respect to streaming video. I tried again last night and got poor results. I immediately got my laptop and ran an on-network speed test with my ISP (RoadRunner via BrightHouse) and got 16Mbs, which is one of the lower numbers I ever measured (usually 20+). And that was through wireless.
post #329 of 3892
I went around and around with netflix, sony and my local internet company about the streaming with the sony 370. I did not get anywhere for 2 weeks or so.. I took it back and never looked back either.. I then got the oppo player (no streaming) but a better player over all.
good luck. I doubt that you will get anywhere.

Jacob
post #330 of 3892
Frankly, I'm not too concerned. I am happy with the player as a BD player (speed) and have a RokuHD on the way as an experiment. I am more concerned about a problem in my broadband service.

Given the rather inconsistent reports (some say it works great, others say it sucks), I suspect a Sony SW implementation that might be particularly sensitive to network performance (latency or something else other than simple throughput).
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