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post #331 of 3944
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Originally Posted by dadude1972 View Post

It doesn't support ntfs at the moment and I don't know if it ever will.
However you can burn mkv files ( I burn using nero as UDF 2.50) to
disc and play them on it. One of its more positive features. I have also
used dvd+r dl for large files on mkv as well

That is a surprise to hear. I thought the last generation LG BD390 support ntfs. This is a step backwards.
post #332 of 3944
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I went around and around with netflix, sony and my local internet company about the streaming with the sony 370. I did not get anywhere for 2 weeks or so.. I took it back and never looked back either.. I then got the oppo player (no streaming) but a better player over all.
good luck. I doubt that you will get anywhere.

Jacob

As you predicted, no joy with Netflix. They did say Sony wrote their own SW rather than use licensed Netflix code. The rep claimed they have no complaints with the Sony devices (yeah right). He suggested I had a defective unit.

I am sitting here watching an Amazon HD movie and it is working perfectly.

I have a huge problem with the notion of a HW problem - I can't imagine anything in HW specific to Netflix. However I also can't imagine why some of these work and others don't.

Maybe I should just return it to Costco and get an Oppo BDP-80 (I have a ABT scaler in my Denon AVR for DVD upconversion).
post #333 of 3944
I have the roku and did have the ps3. the netflix worked fine on both of those items.
I even replaced the sony and tried another one.. still had the same problem.

it seems that I needed faster internet speed. but it worked fine with the roku and the ps3.

I would go with the oppo 80 or 83.

Jacob
post #334 of 3944
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Originally Posted by khollister View Post

As you predicted, no joy with Netflix. They did say Sony wrote their own SW rather than use licensed Netflix code. The rep claimed they have no complaints with the Sony devices (yeah right). He suggested I had a defective unit.

I am sitting here watching an Amazon HD movie and it is working perfectly.

I have a huge problem with the notion of a HW problem - I can't imagine anything in HW specific to Netflix. However I also can't imagine why some of these work and others don't.

Maybe I should just return it to Costco and get an Oppo BDP-80 (I have a ABT scaler in my Denon AVR for DVD upconversion).

After thinking about it last night, I did make one other change on my settings. I have an older LCD that doesn't officially support 1080p. I cannot remember if I switched it to 1080i or 720p (native support) on the S570. See if that makes a difference.
post #335 of 3944
Please tell me how to go about setting to bitstream directly through the hdmi to receiver?Thanks.
post #336 of 3944
Bought s570 a month ago at BB. Great player so I bought a second one. Both streamed video from netflix and amazon VOD flawlessly, with fast loading and great PQ. However, this past week videos will not buffer at all and PQ gets worse and worse as the software tries to fix itself. I don't believe its my internet (comcast) because I can stream video from laptops and ps3 with no problem, but both of my s570's now have terrible buffering and PQ (unwatchable!)

Has anyone found that in the past week video streaming has simply failed? Any suggestions to correct the problem?
post #337 of 3944
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I have the roku and did have the ps3. the netflix worked fine on both of those items.
I even replaced the sony and tried another one.. still had the same problem.

it seems that I needed faster internet speed. but it worked fine with the roku and the ps3.

I would go with the oppo 80 or 83.

Jacob

Mine works just fine for Netflix streaming. I have Road Runner (not sure of the speed), but I was streaming a movie, two notebooks doing general browsing, etc simultanesously. Mine is using the wired connection to a switch through another switch to a router and then to the cable modem. It's not an efficient way of connecting things necessarily, but it streams just fine. I had a problem on a Saturday night a couple weeks ago where it would pause for buffering a few times, but that's been the only problem.
post #338 of 3944
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Originally Posted by david_nc View Post

Mine works just fine for Netflix streaming. I have Road Runner (not sure of the speed), but I was streaming a movie, two notebooks doing general browsing, etc simultanesously. Mine is using the wired connection to a switch through another switch to a router and then to the cable modem. It's not an efficient way of connecting things necessarily, but it streams just fine. I had a problem on a Saturday night a couple weeks ago where it would pause for buffering a few times, but that's been the only problem.

This is really curious - I can't imagine why some work and some don't given most of the folks with problems have high bandwidth connections. I would return it to Costco and try another one, but a) I can't see where HW could be the cause given how well it worked with Amazon VOD and b) too many folks having the problem, including Jacob who went through 2 with the same symptom. The Amazon movie looked great, so i suspect it is using even more bandwidth than the Netflix "HD" stuff which doesn't work.

The player is great otherwise - really fast, with no detectable layer change pause I have noticed and it plays SACD.
post #339 of 3944
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

Yes, I have an old ES model but I was using it with the 5.1 analog out to my receiver (it has no HDMI). The S570 is my first experience with a digital to digital SACD interface and I would say the S570 linked to my Pioneer VSX-94 receiver sounds much better. There is also a huge difference when I set the Pioneer to "pure direct" and there is no PCM conversion at all: It sounds clean,loud,perfect to my ears. When I do this, "SACD DIRECT" shows up on the receiver display and the PCM light is off.
I found the "new' SACD experience so good that I am ordering few SACD disks today, after 5 years without buying one.
I have Monitor Audio speakers on a 7.1 configuration. Sub is Sunfire.
The S570 has an option to convert DSD to PCM , in case the receiver doesn't accept DSD direct.

How does the SACD sound compare when the player is converting DSD to PCM?

Does it still sound good?

Thanks

Guy
post #340 of 3944
was going to pair Sony EX700 with BDP-570 but have decided that the Sharp LC40LE810UN is a better TV: Is the Aquos Connection from the Sharp Br players worth switching from the BDP-570 to the BD HP70U which appears to be a lesser unit.?
By the way, thanks for past information clearing up my confusion about Sony TV.
post #341 of 3944
I believe there are two settings to get it to bitstream.

Set HDMI to "Auto" and the BD Audio MIX Setting to 'off' under Audio Settings. My receiver shows the source codec when playing.
post #342 of 3944
Just got my sony BDPS570 and I need some help on setting the screen and audio settings. Here's what I got, all connected using HDMI.

Samsung LNS3251D (720p)
Directv HD-H20
AVR - Pioneer VSX-1018, I have a 5.1 speaker set up.

TV Type 16:9
Screen Format: Original or Fixed Aspect Ration?
DVD Aspect Ration: Letter Box or Pan & Scan?
Cinema Conversion mode: Auto or Video?
Output Video Format: HDMI
BD/DVD-ROM 1080/24p Output: Auto or off?
HDMI Deep Color Output: auto, 12 bit, 10 bit, or off?
Pause Mode: Auto or Frame?

Audio Settings
Audio (HDMI): Auto or PCM?
DSD Output Mode: On or Off?
BD Audio Mix Setting: On or Off?

This is my first blu ray and I want really enjoy and use all the features. Thanks in advance.//meg
post #343 of 3944
Samsung LNS3251D (720p)
Directv HD-H20
AVR - Pioneer VSX-1018, I have a 5.1 speaker set up.

TV Type 16:9
Screen Format: Original or Fixed Aspect Ration? FIXED
DVD Aspect Ration: Letter Box or Pan & Scan? LETTERBOX
Cinema Conversion mode: Auto or Video? AUTO
Output Video Format: HDMI
BD/DVD-ROM 1080/24p Output: Auto or off? AUTO
HDMI Deep Color Output: auto, 12 bit, 10 bit, or off? AUTO
Pause Mode: Auto or Frame? AUTO

Audio Settings
Audio (HDMI): Auto or PCM? AUTO, unless your AVR cannot decode the blu-ray lossless formats (yours can I believe)
DSD Output Mode: On or Off? Used for SACD playback - depends on if your ACR can decode DSD. OFF is the safe choice
BD Audio Mix Setting: On or Off? OFF
post #344 of 3944
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Originally Posted by khollister View Post

Samsung LNS3251D (720p)
Directv HD-H20
AVR - Pioneer VSX-1018, I have a 5.1 speaker set up.

TV Type 16:9
Screen Format: Original or Fixed Aspect Ration? FIXED
DVD Aspect Ration: Letter Box or Pan & Scan? LETTERBOX
Cinema Conversion mode: Auto or Video? AUTO
Output Video Format: HDMI
BD/DVD-ROM 1080/24p Output: Auto or off? AUTO
HDMI Deep Color Output: auto, 12 bit, 10 bit, or off? AUTO
Pause Mode: Auto or Frame? AUTO

Audio Settings
Audio (HDMI): Auto or PCM? AUTO, unless your AVR cannot decode the blu-ray lossless formats (yours can I believe)
DSD Output Mode: On or Off? Used for SACD playback - depends on if your ACR can decode DSD. OFF is the safe choice
BD Audio Mix Setting: On or Off? OFF

Thank you very much. I really aprriciate it. If you have more suggestion on my settings please let me know.
post #345 of 3944
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Originally Posted by meg3020 View Post

Thank you very much. I really aprriciate it. If you have more suggestion on my settings please let me know.

Make sure all the NR settings are off in the OPTIONS menu (by default they are off, so you're good unless you changed them).

The other thing you might want to experiment with is upscaling. In the Video Output menu (where you select HDMI) there is a sub menu that lets you select an output resolution (normally 1080p) or Original. For Blu-ray this makes no difference, but for DVD's and streaming video, it is a question of who has the better upscaler, the S570 or your AVR. I am unfamiliar with your Pioneer, but my Denon uses an ABT chip and does a noticeably better job on DVD's is I let the player put out the native 480p on anamorphic SD DVD's and let the Denon scale it up to 1080p. Your milage may vary.
post #346 of 3944
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Originally Posted by khollister View Post

Make sure all the NR settings are off in the OPTIONS menu (by default they are off, so you're good unless you changed them).

The other thing you might want to experiment with is upscaling. In the Video Output menu (where you select HDMI) there is a sub menu that lets you select an output resolution (normally 1080p) or Original. For Blu-ray this makes no difference, but for DVD's and streaming video, it is a question of who has the better upscaler, the S570 or your AVR. I am unfamiliar with your Pioneer, but my Denon uses an ABT chip and does a noticeably better job on DVD's is I let the player put out the native 480p on anamorphic SD DVD's and let the Denon scale it up to 1080p. Your milage may vary.

Sorry but what is NR? and how do i check it if they all set to off?

I think i found the output resolution, i tried 1020p but its not supported coz my tv is only 720p. I havent tried to use the upscaling on my avr, need to look how to do that. Again thank you, I watch some regular dvd last nite and it was really good.
post #347 of 3944
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Originally Posted by meg3020 View Post

Sorry but what is NR? and how do i check it if they all set to off?

I think i found the output resolution, i tried 1020p but its not supported coz my tv is only 720p. I havent tried to use the upscaling on my avr, need to look how to do that. Again thank you, I watch some regular dvd last nite and it was really good.

meg:

Your Pioneer does NOT support HDMI source upscalling. Set the 570 to scale to 720 or 1080p and see which looks better. Also FYI until the 2010 models come out all PIONEER Receivers with HDMI do NOT SCALE any HDMI sources, they only scale analog/component sources (that is all including but not limited to the Elite SC series through the 09TX).

Also - while I doubt you are using SACD - your 1018 does NOT support DSD direct. Keep that feature OFF.
post #348 of 3944
Is it just me or is the read volume on this player loud? I can hear the read noise anytime I put in a disc for the first time, or if I pause/restart a movie, while playing its perfect quiet though.
post #349 of 3944
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Originally Posted by Howie411 View Post

Is it just me or is the read volume on this player loud? I can hear the read noise anytime I put in a disc for the first time, or if I pause/restart a movie, while playing its perfect quiet though.

My player is silent, as far as I know. By that I mean that I've not heard any noise from mine, though I haven't put an ear to it. These players are so light; I wonder if the cabinets can perhaps resonate when the disc spins up. I have another component on top of mine, so maybe that's why mine is quiet. You can press on the top of the cabinet when it's making noise to see if that's what's causing yours to be noisy.
post #350 of 3944
I just picked up the S570 and am having some odd problems with it. My wifi is connected and hovers between 96-100% signal quality. Everytime I try to run a system update it recognizes one is available, then goes to the download screen and doesn't do anything (sits there for quite a while) until it says it lost connection to the server. Also, loading netflix takes foooorrrreeevvverr. When I finally get my queue to show and select a movie to play it sits on the loading/checking connection netflix screen forever until i just give up. Any ideas?

Thanks
post #351 of 3944
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Originally Posted by MrRoy View Post

I had my first issue. I was streaming a Netflix movie and the screen went blue but the audio continued. The blue wouldn't go away, clicked Home on the remote, nothing. Power cycle, nothing. I had to unplug it to reset it. Hopefully it was a random thing and a pattern doesn't start to develop. I am not too worried, cause my "tried and true" S350 had it's needed reboot a couple times as well.


Yesterday I had to unplug mine twice. Once I was connecting to Slacker Radio and the other time i stopped it from playing a DVD.
post #352 of 3944
I picked up the S570 over the weekend. I had hesitated because I thought it looked and felt really cheap and plastic-y in the store and yep, it IS cheap and plastic-y but I guess when I'm sitting 10 feet away on my couch, I don't really care that much. The big improvement for me from my PS3 is the lack of fan noise. My PS3 is an original launch model with a fan that blows like a leaf blower within 15 minutes of the unit being turned on, even with nothing going on. I can hear the fan in the S570 when I put my ear next to it but not from where I sit.

As others have reported, the S570 is speedy and launches discs quickly. However, the fast forward isn't as capable as the PS3, which has the neat and perhaps unique ability among Blu-ray players to fast forward at double speed with sound and subtitles. I guess the Cell processor comes in handy for something. I am kinda curious if the S570's Netflix streaming is as poor as reported but since I have three other devices that can access Netflix on the TV - PS3, Tivo and the TV itself - it's not a high priority.

All in all, good value for money.
post #353 of 3944
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Originally Posted by peterlee View Post

I picked up the S570 over the weekend. I had hesitated because I thought it looked and felt really cheap and plastic-y in the store and yep, it IS cheap and plastic-y but I guess when I'm sitting 10 feet away on my couch, I don't really care that much. The big improvement for me from my PS3 is the lack of fan noise. My PS3 is an original launch model with a fan that blows like a leaf blower within 15 minutes of the unit being turned on, even with nothing going on. I can hear the fan in the S570 when I put my ear next to it but not from where I sit.

As others have reported, the S570 is speedy and launches discs quickly. However, the fast forward isn't as capable as the PS3, which has the neat and perhaps unique ability among Blu-ray players to fast forward at double speed with sound and subtitles. I guess the Cell processor comes in handy for something. I am kinda curious if the S570's Netflix streaming is as poor as reported but since I have three other devices that can access Netflix on the TV - PS3, Tivo and the TV itself - it's not a high priority.

All in all, good value for money.

I've had no Netflix issues using a cabled connection (not wi-fi). The picture isn't as good as Amazon HD obviously, but it's still very good. For some reason, it looks better on my 720p projector than on a 720p LCD TV.
post #354 of 3944
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Originally Posted by catmother View Post

Interesting and I have read your thread from the start BTW.

My thoughts, my LG BD390 does DLNA and reads NTFS formatted USB HDD and Flash drives now. It also has Vudu and streams HDX quality video, far superior to Neflix or even Amazon (hardwired 1GB network) without a hiccup and has not given me any problems.

My Panasonic BD655 (AKA BD65) has the best SD DVD up conversion short of the Oppo 83 that I have seen but that is on an LG 55LH90 well calibrated TV at 1080/p24. Users would not likely see deficiencies in SD conversion on anything smaller.

Winston's complaint of 'flashing' on SD DVD with the BD655 has never appeared on the dozen or so SD discs I have tested.

Not knocking the Sony players but there are choices for people.

Yeah, but the LG players have serious disc drive problems. Check out the threads. I bought a LG390 back in Oct 2009 and now the disc drive mechanism is broken...and the warranty is only 90 days for LG.
post #355 of 3944
Can someone help me with my audio set up? I was abel to get DTS 5.1 and DD 5.1 on Bluray dvds and regular dvds respectively. However, when I use BD live (youtube and some preloaded program), I am only getting PCM 2.0. Is this normal or is there some setting I need to change? My set up is Sony Bluray S570, EX400 TV and Bose V20. Thanks.
post #356 of 3944
Regarding streaming Netflix speed. Some programs come in great, some are very choppy. In that they keep stopping, allowing for the content to feed, and continuing on. It's irritating as hell.

I've seen lots of talk about this and ran several tests in my house using time Warner Cable speedtest link...

http://www.timewarnercable.com/north...speedtest.html

My desktop, which is wired, will generally download between 15-18 (low of 11.4, high of 25.5!) Mbps. My laptop, which is connected via Wireless G, is 5-8 (low of 5, high of 9) Mbps.

So the wired speed is (generally) twice as fast, at least.

To wire the Sony BDP-S570 would mean connectors through a wall, which I can do, but this seems like a situation where a Wireless N upgrade might help, does it not? Is it reasonable that it would close the gap between my Wired vs Wireless speed.

JWhite
post #357 of 3944
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Originally Posted by david_nc View Post

My player is silent, as far as I know. By that I mean that I've not heard any noise from mine, though I haven't put an ear to it. These players are so light; I wonder if the cabinets can perhaps resonate when the disc spins up. I have another component on top of mine, so maybe that's why mine is quiet. You can press on the top of the cabinet when it's making noise to see if that's what's causing yours to be noisy.

The noise is definitely coming from the area where the disc is being read, I only hear it on the spin up of a disc or slow down of a disc, while a movie is playing I don't hear anything.
post #358 of 3944
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Originally Posted by Damonb10 View Post

I just picked up the S570 and am having some odd problems with it. My wifi is connected and hovers between 96-100% signal quality. Everytime I try to run a system update it recognizes one is available, then goes to the download screen and doesn't do anything (sits there for quite a while) until it says it lost connection to the server. Also, loading netflix takes foooorrrreeevvverr. When I finally get my queue to show and select a movie to play it sits on the loading/checking connection netflix screen forever until i just give up. Any ideas?

Thanks

Does anyone have any advice on this one? It's clearly connected to my router and all other devices connected to my router access the internet with no problems. However, it seems this unit has troubles. Do I have a bad player? Or is there something special that needs to be setup in the router for this player?
post #359 of 3944
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Originally Posted by balancesheet View Post

Can someone help me with my audio set up? I was abel to get DTS 5.1 and DD 5.1 on Bluray dvds and regular dvds respectively. However, when I use BD live (youtube and some preloaded program), I am only getting PCM 2.0. Is this normal or is there some setting I need to change? My set up is Sony Bluray S570, EX400 TV and Bose V20. Thanks.

I think your setup is fine. The BD Live content wouldn't typically, if ever, be encoded with multichannel sound so the reason you're not getting it is it's not there.

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Originally Posted by Damonb10 View Post

Does anyone have any advice on this one? It's clearly connected to my router and all other devices connected to my router access the internet with no problems. However, it seems this unit has troubles. Do I have a bad player? Or is there something special that needs to be setup in the router for this player?

It sounds like your player is connected to the internet properly since if it wasn't, the player wouldn't get software notification or even access the Netflix service at all. You can check to see if the player is connected to your router properly by going to [setup][network settings][network connection diagnostics] and also by checking under [setup][network settings][internet settings][view network status].

Do you have trouble getting other, non-Netflix internet video content through the player?
post #360 of 3944
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Originally Posted by Damonb10 View Post

Does anyone have any advice on this one? It's clearly connected to my router and all other devices connected to my router access the internet with no problems. However, it seems this unit has troubles. Do I have a bad player? Or is there something special that needs to be setup in the router for this player?

How's your broadband download speed?
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