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post #121 of 3211
3/15/10 at 10:38pm
Tried out Netflix tonight and streamed flawlessly the movie "Flawless" - it only took about 20 seconds for it to load and while it was only in stereo, the PQ was way better than my xbox 360 interface! I am using the LAN connection, fyi.

Also like the weather and stocks and Amazon VOD. I'm really happy about the "lock" feature considering I have children. Also worked through most of Harry Potter 5 BD and it never hiccuped once. Nice player all around - very happy with my purchase!
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post #122 of 3211
3/16/10 at 1:26am
I am only getting snow on my Panasonic plasma tv when I connect hdmi from BD85k blu ray player to Pioneer vsx9040 receiver that has hdmi out to tv. I do hear audio but only snow for picture. I've tried different hdmi ports but it doesn't help.

If I connect blu ray player via hdmi straight to tv, it works great though it is only playing sound and video through tv, not receiver.

I can connect optical cable from tv to receiver and get audio to the surround sound, but
I bought this equipment to be 100% hdmi.

Anyone else having this issue?
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post #123 of 3211
3/16/10 at 3:33am
Could anyone with an import disc in 50hz check if it still plays after the firmware update? (With the BD35, 50hz playback was disabled after a firmware update)

Or I could check it myself, if there's any way to roll back to a previous firmware.
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post #124 of 3211
3/16/10 at 4:59am
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Originally Posted by Beastus View Post

Could anyone with an import disc in 50hz check if it still plays after the firmware update? (With the BD35, 50hz playback was disabled after a firmware update)

Or I could check it myself, if there's any way to roll back to a previous firmware.

Someone else earlier in the forum already posted that it does indeed work with 50hz Bluray discs.
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post #125 of 3211
3/16/10 at 7:14am
Yes, that was me

Panasonic's BD35 also worked with 50hz discs, but that option was disabled after a firmware update, so I'm a little careful with firmware updates, as I do not want to lose the 50hz capability.
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post #126 of 3211
3/16/10 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by spyfy View Post

Installed a firmware update tonight. Current version 1.14. Checking to see what I can find.

From Panny:

Model Number DMP-BD85P/PC
Update Version Ver 1.14
Update File Name / Size

* North America/Latin America
UPDATE_BD85P_V114.exe / 40,789,504 bytes

Update Date 2010/03/16 (Firmware update via network : 2010/03/16)
Improvements
Date/Version Description
2010/3/16
Ver 1.14

1. BD disc playability improvement
2. Wireless network performance improvement
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post #127 of 3211
3/16/10 at 8:20am
Since updating to firmware 1.14, I can now connect hdmi out from bd85k blu ray to hdmi in on Pioneer vsx9040.

I now get pictiure and sound, no more snow. Big sigh of relief.
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post #128 of 3211
3/16/10 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

From Panny:

Model Number DMP-BD85P/PC
Update Version Ver 1.14
Update File Name / Size

* North America/Latin America
UPDATE_BD85P_V114.exe / 40,789,504 bytes

Update Date 2010/03/16 (Firmware update via network : 2010/03/16)
Improvements
Date/Version Description
2010/3/16
Ver 1.14

1. BD disc playability improvement
2. Wireless network performance improvement

Does this also seem to improve the Netflix and Amazon VOD HD?
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post #129 of 3211
3/16/10 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

From Panny:

Model Number DMP-BD85P/PC
Update Version Ver 1.14
Update File Name / Size

* North America/Latin America
UPDATE_BD85P_V114.exe / 40,789,504 bytes

Update Date 2010/03/16 (Firmware update via network : 2010/03/16)
Improvements
Date/Version Description
2010/3/16
Ver 1.14

1. BD disc playability improvement
2. Wireless network performance improvement

Thanks Elway. Couldn't find that. Was hoping for more network options. Would like to see the "Coming soon" section filled.
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post #130 of 3211
3/16/10 at 1:54pm
Did the firmware upgrade, an old Emergency on Netflix froze once, but did not go back to the start screen, just reloaded, took about 5 seconds of pausing, then played fine the rest of the way through.

Did move the dongle more out in the open, even though I had 5 of 5 bars before moving.
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post #131 of 3211
3/16/10 at 2:04pm
Apart from WI-FI, how is the BD85 an improvement over the BD65? Thanks.
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post #132 of 3211
3/16/10 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by tenashus1 View Post

Apart from WI-FI, how is the BD85 an improvement over the BD65? Thanks.

I think the main thing is it has analog outputs and the wifi dongle.
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post #133 of 3211
3/16/10 at 2:59pm
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Originally Posted by scoutermac View Post

Does this also seem to improve the Netflix and Amazon VOD HD?

Also did this update, add to the netflix interface by giving more options for movie choices or is it still only the movies in your queue?
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post #134 of 3211
3/16/10 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by Superman07 View Post

I don't believe the BDP-S570 has 5.1/7.1 analog outputs though, so I wouldn't consider it a true alternative.

Interesting point, and most humble apologies for this (perhaps) stupid question. I have a mid 90's vintage Yama DSP-A3090. It does not (of course) support the latest (TrueHd, etc.) formats, but it does have an optical input. Wouldn't I want to use the Panny's optical out, instead of the analog outs????

JWhite
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post #135 of 3211
3/16/10 at 4:20pm
JMWhite-optical lossy, analogue lossless pcm. Analogue should sound better
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post #136 of 3211
3/16/10 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by JMWhite View Post

Interesting point, and most humble apologies for this (perhaps) stupid question. I have a mid 90's vintage Yama DSP-A3090. It does not (of course) support the latest (TrueHd, etc.) formats, but it does have an optical input. Wouldn't I want to use the Panny's optical out, instead of the analog outs????

With the player's analog outputs, you get lossless TrueHD and dts-MA. With optical, you are limited to lossy DD 5.1 and DTS. (However, the lossy codecs on Blu-ray are encoded at higher bitrates than on DVD. So, it's debatable whether lossless is actually better.) But, to answer your more general question, analog would be the preferred output because the source material is lossless instead of lossy.
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post #137 of 3211
3/16/10 at 6:16pm
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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

With the player's analog outputs, you get lossless TrueHD and dts-MA. With optical, you are limited to lossy DD 5.1 and DTS. (However, the lossy codecs on Blu-ray are encoded at higher bitrates than on DVD. So, it's debatable whether lossless is actually better.) But, to answer your more general question, analog would be the preferred output because the source material is lossless instead of lossy.

Thanks to you and erick granato for the helpful replies. I have considered replacing the 3090, but it's just too damned nice a piece. With your hints as guidance, I'll study up on it a bit more.



JWhite
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post #138 of 3211
3/16/10 at 9:04pm
Can anyone comment if there is lag while in Vieracast on the BD65/85?

I have Vieracast on my V10 plasma and it's quite slow selecting between the options for Pandora, Amazon, etc. Just curious if the Blu ray players are faster?
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post #139 of 3211
3/17/10 at 1:50am
anybody using the analog outputs? Hows the sound? I need somebody to do a panny 85 vs. oppo 80 analog comparison...
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post #140 of 3211
3/17/10 at 6:18am
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Originally Posted by JREwing View Post

Can anyone comment if there is lag while in Vieracast on the BD65/85?

I have Vieracast on my V10 plasma and it's quite slow selecting between the options for Pandora, Amazon, etc. Just curious if the Blu ray players are faster?

I'm using LAN (not the wireless) and I don't notice any lag at all in my setup. And, the picture through Netflix is way better than my xbox 360 streaming, FWIW. Very happy so far. Multiple DVD and BDs now watched with nary a stutter, freeze-up, or stumble. It is faster than my 35 thankfully, but still not as fast as the Sony or other 3rd gen machines.
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post #141 of 3211
3/17/10 at 11:40am
Hello everyone.
I recently replaced my BD55 with BD85. There is much improvement in the dvd upgrading quality and especially the sound production and options. When I watch movies on Netflix, the quality bar is about 75% to 80% full meaning I am missing 3 bars at the end. I am using wireless connection and the signal bars are full which mean I am getting full speed. I have about 5 mbps download speed but actually I can download files up to 10 mbps. The Netflix movies are average quality but not very good. It is somewhere between VHS and DVD. My question is how can I improve the quality? Will the missing 3 bars that I am missing will make a huge difference or shall I use wired instead of wireless or may be improve my cable speed? I appreciate anyone's comments.
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post #142 of 3211
3/17/10 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by usxplong View Post

Hello everyone.
I recently replaced my BD55 with BD85. There is much improvement in the dvd upgrading quality and especially the sound production and options. When I watch movies on Netflix, the quality bar is about 75% to 80% full meaning I am missing 3 bars at the end. I am using wireless connection and the signal bars are full which mean I am getting full speed. I have about 5 mbps download speed but actually I can download files up to 10 mbps. The Netflix movies are average quality but not very good. It is somewhere between VHS and DVD. My question is how can I improve the quality? Will the missing 3 bars that I am missing will make a huge difference or shall I use wired instead of wireless or may be improve my cable speed? I appreciate anyone's comments.

You won't get all the bars unless you stream one of the movies that are in HD. Many of them are not in HD. At least that's the way it was when I had a Netflix account. I gave it up because most of the movies weren't worth watching and the ones that were I had already seen. I'm not much for watching moves a second time unless it's really good. The Samsung 2550 I had did a good job and the PQ for the HD movies was very good. Rarely had a hangup. I do have a good broardband connection.
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post #143 of 3211
3/17/10 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

You won't get all the bars unless you stream one of the movies that are in HD. Many of them are not in HD. At least that's the way it was when I had a Netflix account. I gave it up because most of the movies weren't worth watching and the ones that were I had already seen. I'm not much for watching moves a second time unless it's really good. The Samsung 2550 I had did a good job and the PQ for the HD movies was very good. Rarely had a hangup. I do have a good broardband connection.

Thanks XStanleyX.
I appreciate your input. I just found out that my broadband is about 1.5 mbps download.
I think that is the major problem in terms of picture quality even though I did not get any freezes or reloading during watching movies.
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post #144 of 3211
3/17/10 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

With the player's analog outputs, you get lossless TrueHD and dts-MA. With optical, you are limited to lossy DD 5.1 and DTS. (However, the lossy codecs on Blu-ray are encoded at higher bitrates than on DVD. So, it's debatable whether lossless is actually better.) But, to answer your more general question, analog would be the preferred output because the source material is lossless instead of lossy.


Again, thanks for the reply. It appears to me that the intent is to send the front mains, center, sub, and rear effect analog outputs to some appropriate number of power amps.. or a receiver with front/rear/center/sub inputs

Since I only have the old 90's vintage DSP A3090, this is not much use to me. Looks like I am stuck the the lossy Optical, or upgrade the receiver to something that's BD ready with HDMI inputs.

Have missed something, completely? If I am on target, then I'm not sure this BD is the correct one for me. I started looking here because the ads tended to make one believe this would connect nicely to older audio equipment and still provide TrueHD . Perhaps it does, but not sure it does so to mine.


Truth is, at 57 years old, not sure I hear well enough to tell the diff, anyways.


JWhite
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post #145 of 3211
3/17/10 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by JMWhite View Post

Again, thanks for the reply. It appears to me that the intent is to send the front mains, center, sub, and rear effect analog outputs to some appropriate number of power amps.. or a receiver with front/rear/center/sub inputs

Since I only have the old 90's vintage DSP A3090, this is not much use to me. Looks like I am stuck the the lossy Optical, or upgrade the receiver to something that's BD ready with HDMI inputs.

Have missed something, completely? If I am on target, then I'm not sure this BD is the correct one for me. I started looking here because the ads tended to make one believe this would connect nicely to older audio equipment and still provide TrueHD . Perhaps it does, but not sure it does so to mine.


Truth is, at 57 years old, not sure I hear well enough to tell the diff, anyways.


JWhite


Correct. If your receiver does not have analog inputs for each channel your stuck with 5.1 via optical. You're better off getting the BD65 unless you want to upgrade your receiver later. I'm 62 and can hear the difference but it's not like it'll give you eargasms or any other kind of gasms.
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post #146 of 3211
3/17/10 at 5:41pm
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Originally Posted by JMWhite View Post

Looks like I am stuck the the lossy Optical, or upgrade the receiver to something that's BD ready with HDMI inputs.

You may not notice much, if any, difference between the optical and lossless outputs on Blu-ray. The lossy codecs are considerably less compressed on Blu than on DVD and they sound great. So, you'll get much of the benefit of lossless even without HDMI or multichannel analog.
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post #147 of 3211
3/17/10 at 8:13pm
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Originally Posted by allredp View Post

I'm using LAN (not the wireless) and I don't notice any lag at all in my setup. And, the picture through Netflix is way better than my xbox 360 streaming, FWIW. Very happy so far. Multiple DVD and BDs now watched with nary a stutter, freeze-up, or stumble. It is faster than my 35 thankfully, but still not as fast as the Sony or other 3rd gen machines.

Wow that is surprising that the Vieracast menu is that much faster on the 85 than my V10. I seem to have about .5 second delay on my TV Vieracast, just enough to be annoying. Can anyone else confirm that the 65/85 menu is pretty quick between selections of items?
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post #148 of 3211
3/17/10 at 8:34pm
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Originally Posted by JMWhite View Post

Again, thanks for the reply. It appears to me that the intent is to send the front mains, center, sub, and rear effect analog outputs to some appropriate number of power amps.. or a receiver with front/rear/center/sub inputs

Since I only have the old 90's vintage DSP A3090, this is not much use to me. Looks like I am stuck the the lossy Optical, or upgrade the receiver to something that's BD ready with HDMI inputs.

Have missed something, completely? If I am on target, then I'm not sure this BD is the correct one for me. I started looking here because the ads tended to make one believe this would connect nicely to older audio equipment and still provide TrueHD . Perhaps it does, but not sure it does so to mine.


Truth is, at 57 years old, not sure I hear well enough to tell the diff, anyways.


JWhite

There are many Blu-Ray Discs that do not have AC3 Dolby Digital tracks - they only have DTS audio. There is no requirement for Blu-Ray discs to have both codecs. With your receiver if the BD is DTS the best you can do for audio is a stereo downmix unless you have the 5.1 analog inputs, which it sounds like you don't. I think you'll notice that.
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post #149 of 3211
3/17/10 at 9:39pm
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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

There are many Blu-Ray Discs that do not have AC3 Dolby Digital tracks - they only have DTS audio. There is no requirement for Blu-Ray discs to have both codecs. With your receiver if the BD is DTS the best you can do for audio is a stereo downmix unless you have the 5.1 analog inputs, which it sounds like you don't. I think you'll notice that.

Yes, that's a good point. With DTS tracks, which is the case with the majority of Blu-ray discs, you will be limited to stereo over optical. You can set the player to downmix using Dolby Surround and apply ProLogic decoding in your receiver. That will give you halfway reasonable surround. But, it won't be nearly as good as discrete 5.1.
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post #150 of 3211
3/18/10 at 2:43pm
Anybody had any luck with program a logitech 880 remote to control this player?

Got it programed, but it's missing a lot, such as the Function Menu Key.

Thanks
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